The Official Club Football 2012/13 thread - Page 323

howyousawtheworld · 23-05-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by deaths_friend;4791147
Owen Hargreaves will be leaving Man Utd over the summer. can't help but have mixed feelings towards him. he did cost 20 million and only gave us 40 games in 4 seasons but i feel bad for the guy with all the injuries he has endured.

It's always the best players that these things happen to for England. Owen Hargreaves on his day was the best defensive midfielder in Europe, perhaps the world. His injuries may have denied Man Utd but they've denied England even more. While he was injured you had someone as average as Gareth Barry in his place. And looking at Barry's performances in the world cup last year alone (yes they were all bad but if people watch the Germany v England match again his performance was probably the worst of the lot) you just wonder how much Capello wanted Hargreaves.

mc_squared · 23-05-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791269
It's always the best players that these things happen to for England. Owen Hargreaves on his day was the best defensive midfielder in Europe, perhaps the world. His injuries may have denied Man Utd but they've denied England even more. While he was injured you had someone as average as Gareth Barry in his place. And looking at Barry's performances in the world cup last year alone (yes they were all bad but if people watch the Germany v England match again his performance was probably the worst of the lot) you just wonder how much Capello wanted Hargreaves.

I agree. A fully-fit Hargreaves was sorely missed in South Africa. He was England's best player back in 2006 after all.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 06:18 PM

I'm going to miss Hargreaves, he was amazing for us and England. I'm sad. Gareth Barry was rubbish but why did Capello bring him to SA when he was injured. Also Lennon, who wasn't fit and Walcott was. Didn't Capello say he wasn't going to bring anyone injured.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mc_squared;4791275
I agree. A fully-fit Hargreaves was sorely missed in South Africa. He was England's best player back in 2006 after all.

He was booed as well, stupid fan's but there where not booing after his performance.

mc_squared · 23-05-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791283
He was booed as well, stupid fan's but there where not booing after his performance.

They should have saved their boos for Wayne Booney, who deserved them.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 06:40 PM

Exactly^ He was so rubbish, it was almost unbelievable.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 06:41 PM

But Capello still didn't have the guts to drop him. Prick.

mc_squared · 23-05-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791298
Exactly^ He was so rubbish, it was almost unbelievable.

A total disgrace, and an insult to the England shirt.

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Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791299
But Capello still didn't have the guts to drop him. Prick.

Capello made some very strange decisions all round. He should have taken Darren Bent instead of Crouch, for starters.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 06:56 PM

^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me.

mc_squared · 23-05-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791309
^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me.

Darren Bent has proven himself as a potent goalscorer at every club he's played for (other than Spurs, where he wasn't really given a decent crack).
Crouch only seems to be able to score against lesser opposition, and already appears to be past his best.

howyousawtheworld · 23-05-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791309
^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me.

I prefer Crouch as a striker over Darren Bent. Any day of the week. Bent is a consistent goalscorer but unlike Crouch he hasn't proven himself in an England shirt and I have no confidence that he will ever do so.

And as for Rooney - dropping Rooney has been an impossible feat not just for Capello but for McClaren and Eriksson. He's only had one worthy, world class spell in an England shirt and that was at Euro 2004. The rest of the time he's been running all over the pitch like a crazed bull generally doing fuck all. Yet this satisfies the English media who are just as to blame for making Rooney bullet proof. Only they call him one of the best in the world. He ain't even the best player from England. It's a disgrace to the likes of Messi and co that their name is placed alongside that of Rooney's. An absolute joke.

Navegador · 23-05-2011, 07:34 PM

Crouch is not a good player. Not even close.

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Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791333
It's a disgrace to the likes of Messi and co that their name is placed alongside that of Rooney's. An absolute joke.

You're absolutely right. And I know most of you will disagree, but I think the same can be said about Cristiano Ronaldo.

howyousawtheworld · 23-05-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Navegador;4791344
Crouch is not a good player. Not even close.

You're absolutely right. And I know most of you will disagree, but I think the same can be said about Cristiano Ronaldo.

Crouch is a very handy player. Of course not world class or even he level below world class but he's a handy asset for a lot of teams. Great at holding the ball up for say a more technically gifted footballer.

Ronaldo's got a great eye for goal. But quite frankly he doesn't come close in quality to a Lionel Messi or Kaka. There are a whole lot more intelligent players out there than Ronaldo. Ronaldo doesn't compare with the stars of the Real Madrid galactico's from a decade ago of Zidane, Figo, the real Ronaldo etc for a start.

Navegador · 23-05-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355
Ronaldo's got a great eye for goal.

Playing against La Coruña, Xerez and Almería, sure.

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Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355
But quite frankly he doesn't come close in quality to a Lionel Messi or Kaka. There are a whole lot more intelligent players out there than Ronaldo. Ronaldo doesn't compare with the stars of the Real Madrid galactico's from a decade ago of Zidane, Figo, the real Ronaldo etc for a start.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355
Crouch is a very handy player. Of course not world class or even he level below world class but he's a handy asset for a lot of teams. Great at holding the ball up for say a more technically gifted footballer.

Like I said, he's not a good player. But yeah, he's a handy asset in some situations.

Open, Politik · 23-05-2011, 08:00 PM

Kaka, I think has past it, now Messi and Ronaldo are named the best in the world. But yeah Messi>Ronaldo any day. But don't forget Ronaldo, he sometimes just blows me away.

23-05-2011, 06:06 PM	#4831
howyousawtheworld Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,753 Location: Scotland Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by deaths_friend;4791147 Owen Hargreaves will be leaving Man Utd over the summer. can't help but have mixed feelings towards him. he did cost 20 million and only gave us 40 games in 4 seasons but i feel bad for the guy with all the injuries he has endured. It's always the best players that these things happen to for England. Owen Hargreaves on his day was the best defensive midfielder in Europe, perhaps the world. His injuries may have denied Man Utd but they've denied England even more. While he was injured you had someone as average as Gareth Barry in his place. And looking at Barry's performances in the world cup last year alone (yes they were all bad but if people watch the Germany v England match again his performance was probably the worst of the lot) you just wonder how much Capello wanted Hargreaves.

23-05-2011, 06:10 PM	#4832
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791269 It's always the best players that these things happen to for England. Owen Hargreaves on his day was the best defensive midfielder in Europe, perhaps the world. His injuries may have denied Man Utd but they've denied England even more. While he was injured you had someone as average as Gareth Barry in his place. And looking at Barry's performances in the world cup last year alone (yes they were all bad but if people watch the Germany v England match again his performance was probably the worst of the lot) you just wonder how much Capello wanted Hargreaves. I agree. A fully-fit Hargreaves was sorely missed in South Africa. He was England's best player back in 2006 after all. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

23-05-2011, 06:18 PM	#4833
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm going to miss Hargreaves, he was amazing for us and England. I'm sad. Gareth Barry was rubbish but why did Capello bring him to SA when he was injured. Also Lennon, who wasn't fit and Walcott was. Didn't Capello say he wasn't going to bring anyone injured. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

23-05-2011, 06:19 PM	#4834
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by mc_squared;4791275 I agree. A fully-fit Hargreaves was sorely missed in South Africa. He was England's best player back in 2006 after all. He was booed as well, stupid fan's but there where not booing after his performance. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

23-05-2011, 06:30 PM	#4835
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791283 He was booed as well, stupid fan's but there where not booing after his performance. They should have saved their boos for Wayne Booney, who deserved them. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

23-05-2011, 06:40 PM	#4836
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Exactly^ He was so rubbish, it was almost unbelievable. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

23-05-2011, 06:41 PM	#4837
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	But Capello still didn't have the guts to drop him. Prick. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

23-05-2011, 06:54 PM	#4838
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791298 Exactly^ He was so rubbish, it was almost unbelievable. A total disgrace, and an insult to the England shirt. Quote: Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791299 But Capello still didn't have the guts to drop him. Prick. Capello made some very strange decisions all round. He should have taken Darren Bent instead of Crouch, for starters. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

23-05-2011, 06:56 PM	#4839
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!

23-05-2011, 07:02 PM	#4840
mc_squared Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67,519 My Mood: Location: Wherever life takes me Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791309 ^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me. Darren Bent has proven himself as a potent goalscorer at every club he's played for (other than Spurs, where he wasn't really given a decent crack). Crouch only seems to be able to score against lesser opposition, and already appears to be past his best. __________________ LIFE ISN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY Be yourself, no matter what anyone else thinks. Work to live - don't live to work...................... Age is purely a state of mind! Don't waste your time on jealousy. Success is a journey, NOT a destination. Life is a marathon, NOT a sprint! http://www.generationterrorists.com/...sunscreen.html

23-05-2011, 07:23 PM	#4841
howyousawtheworld Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,753 Location: Scotland Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Open, Politik;4791309 ^Whats wrong with Crouchy, he is good, Darren Bent annoys me. I prefer Crouch as a striker over Darren Bent. Any day of the week. Bent is a consistent goalscorer but unlike Crouch he hasn't proven himself in an England shirt and I have no confidence that he will ever do so. And as for Rooney - dropping Rooney has been an impossible feat not just for Capello but for McClaren and Eriksson. He's only had one worthy, world class spell in an England shirt and that was at Euro 2004. The rest of the time he's been running all over the pitch like a crazed bull generally doing fuck all. Yet this satisfies the English media who are just as to blame for making Rooney bullet proof. Only they call him one of the best in the world. He ain't even the best player from England. It's a disgrace to the likes of Messi and co that their name is placed alongside that of Rooney's. An absolute joke.

23-05-2011, 07:34 PM	#4842
Navegador I'm so easy to please Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,207 Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Crouch is not a good player. Not even close. Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791333 It's a disgrace to the likes of Messi and co that their name is placed alongside that of Rooney's. An absolute joke. You're absolutely right. And I know most of you will disagree, but I think the same can be said about Cristiano Ronaldo. __________________ INTERNACIONAL \| TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR INDIANAPOLIS COLTS \| NEW YORK METS \| BOSTON BRUINS

23-05-2011, 07:46 PM	#4843
howyousawtheworld Coldplayer Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,753 Location: Scotland Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 13 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Navegador;4791344 Crouch is not a good player. Not even close. You're absolutely right. And I know most of you will disagree, but I think the same can be said about Cristiano Ronaldo. Crouch is a very handy player. Of course not world class or even he level below world class but he's a handy asset for a lot of teams. Great at holding the ball up for say a more technically gifted footballer. Ronaldo's got a great eye for goal. But quite frankly he doesn't come close in quality to a Lionel Messi or Kaka. There are a whole lot more intelligent players out there than Ronaldo. Ronaldo doesn't compare with the stars of the Real Madrid galactico's from a decade ago of Zidane, Figo, the real Ronaldo etc for a start.

23-05-2011, 07:49 PM	#4844
Navegador I'm so easy to please Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,207 Location: Porto Alegre - Brazil Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355 Ronaldo's got a great eye for goal. Playing against La Coruña, Xerez and Almería, sure. Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355 But quite frankly he doesn't come close in quality to a Lionel Messi or Kaka. There are a whole lot more intelligent players out there than Ronaldo. Ronaldo doesn't compare with the stars of the Real Madrid galactico's from a decade ago of Zidane, Figo, the real Ronaldo etc for a start. Agreed. Quote: Originally Posted by howyousawtheworld;4791355 Crouch is a very handy player. Of course not world class or even he level below world class but he's a handy asset for a lot of teams. Great at holding the ball up for say a more technically gifted footballer. Like I said, he's not a good player. But yeah, he's a handy asset in some situations. __________________ INTERNACIONAL \| TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR INDIANAPOLIS COLTS \| NEW YORK METS \| BOSTON BRUINS

23-05-2011, 08:00 PM	#4845
Open, Politik Babe Im Gonna Leave You Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,182 My Mood: Location: Where the Lemon lives Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kaka, I think has past it, now Messi and Ronaldo are named the best in the world. But yeah Messi>Ronaldo any day. But don't forget Ronaldo, he sometimes just blows me away. __________________ 19/09/09 Best day ever!!!!!