Who the Most Mainstream Band? - Page 4

Brent · 12-10-2011, 03:21 AM

I'm not singling you out. I'm just saying that Radiohead are incredibly popular and successful, much to the dismay of their diehard fans. Everyone wants them to themselves, and they're at the point where if they recorded Thom taking a shit and released it people would call it stunning.

Most everyone I know is familiar with Radiohead's work (even some dumb sorority girl has "Reckoner" on her iPod, misspelled with no album art).

And Coldplay is wayyyy more mainstream, admittedly (I voted U2 though, just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay). But when people call Radiohead "indie music" it's just stupid.

Kiame · 12-10-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013476
1. I never said that Radiohead weren't mainstream, only that they were less mainstream than Muse. That may not have been true ten years ago, but it is now.

2. Everyone you know owns a Radiohead record? You must not know very many people. Hardly anyone I know has even heard of them (though they recognize Creep most of the time). I realize that that sounds vaguely hipster of me...but I'm merely stating fact. I wish more people DID know and listen to them.

3. I never said I was superior to you because I like Radiohead better than Coldplay. Obviously I'm not. It's just music, dude, nobody is superior to anyone else because of their musical tastes.

4. I never said they were my band or that they weren't successful. But, to put things into perspective...Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends has sold around two thirds as many copies as all of Radiohead's albums combined.
Radiohead have never had a radio hit apart from Creep (though I suppose cases could be made for Karma Police and a couple songs from The Bends).

All I said in my post was that Muse are CURRENTLY more mainstream than Radiohead.

Hmm..

It all depends where you go man. In the UK, Radiohead is fucking huge. They're a household name - especially with people who were teens in the 90s. I think Radiohead are just as big as Muse are in the UK. Hell, for the first five years of Muse's existence they were known as "those Radiohead clones".

U2 and Coldplay are more "mainstream" than both of them though.

I can't stand this topic. It implies that "mainstream" is bad. Mainstrem is completely meaningless and says nothing about the band. The Beatles were main stream, ffs.

Kiame · 12-10-2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013485
, just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay).

I think that's only because of how long U2 has been around. They are legends now. It's not cool to hate on legends.

When Coldplay has been around for thirty five years I doubt people will be trashing on them as much as they do now.

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013485
I'm not singling you out. I'm just saying that Radiohead are incredibly popular and successful, much to the dismay of their diehard fans. Everyone wants them to themselves, and they're at the point where if they recorded Thom taking a shit and released it people would call it stunning.

Most everyone I know is familiar with Radiohead's work (even some dumb sorority girl has "Reckoner" on her iPod, misspelled with no album art).

And Coldplay is wayyyy more mainstream, admittedly (I voted U2 though, just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay). But when people call Radiohead "indie music" it's just stupid.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I do know people who hate U2 with a passion, though. "Edge plays the effects pedal, not guitar," "Bono is an a**hole," etc. Similar to the general dislike of Chris Martin, actually.

I wish everyone I knew was familiar with Radiohead (maybe when I get to college where people listen to something other than Usher and LMFAO). Music conversations would be so much more fun.

By the way, Radiohead technically ARE indie now (on an independent label), whereas they weren't before, but I do understand what you're getting at.

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Originally Posted by Kiame;5013498
Hmm..

It all depends where you go man. In the UK, Radiohead is fucking huge. They're a household name - especially with people who were teens in the 90s. I think Radiohead are just as big as Muse are in the UK. Hell, for the first five years of Muse's existence they were known as "those Radiohead clones".

True. I'm in the U.S, it seems that everyone here has heard of Muse whereas Radiohead is still a giant, Creep-shaped question mark. Twilight seems to have helped Muse along.

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I think that's only because of how long U2 has been around. They are legends now. It's not cool to hate on legends.

When Coldplay has been around for thirty five years I doubt people will be trashing on them as much as they do now.

That's entirely up to Coldplay. Their potential status as legends all depends on whether they keep on making para-paradises and wa-wa-waterfalls.

Brent · 12-10-2011, 03:52 AM

USHER?!

*shivers*

Well, "Yeah" was alright

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013522
USHER?!

*shivers*

Well, "Yeah" was alright

Brent · 12-10-2011, 03:58 AM

The best thing that's come out of U2 in the past 10 years is that cool-colored black-and-red iPod.

Anyway, if I were to rate the quality of the bands above...
Coldplay > Radiohead > Muse > U2

But their Mainstream-ness?
U2 > Coldplay > Muse > Radiohead (though they are ALL mainstream)

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013531
The best thing that's come out of U2 in the past 10 years is that cool-colored black-and-red iPod.

Muse > U2

Brent · 12-10-2011, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013553

I'm not a big U2 fan. I like War, Zooropa and The Joshua Tree.

Not a big Muse fan, either. I just put them above U2 because I like Queen.

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013557
I'm not a big U2 fan. I like War, Zooropa and The Joshua Tree.

Not a big Muse fan, either. I just put them above U2 because I like Queen.

I'm not a huge fan of recent U2 either, but I think that The Joshua Tree alone is better than all of Muse's work combined. And Muse's worst work is their Queen inspired stuff. United States of Eurasia? Seriously?

To each his own, I suppose...

You don't like Achtung Baby?

Brent · 12-10-2011, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013565
I'm not a huge fan of recent U2 either, but I think that The Joshua Tree alone is better than all of Muse's work combined. And Muse's worst work is their Queen inspired stuff. United States of Eurasia? Seriously?

To each his own, I suppose...

You don't like Achtung Baby?

It's okay. I just think U2 is the basic stereotype for rock music. Yawn.

And yeah, Muse's stuff is like a Queen clone. When I heard US of E, I was like ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

But their fans are vicious, vicious people.

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013571
It's okay. I just think U2 is the basic stereotype for rock music. Yawn.

Hmm...the thing is, U2 only sounds stereotypical now because of all the bands that tried to follow in their footsteps. Listening to them in the context of the 80's...there was really nobody else like them. They basically invented the huge, stadium rock sound. It's not them that's stereotypical, but all the bands that they accidentally created simply by existing.

Karencorpse · 12-10-2011, 04:35 AM

I don't consider any of the listed bands very mainstream. The most mainstream would be Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, The Beatles (early), Elton John, etc.

Hartroc · 12-10-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Karencorpse;5013601
I don't consider any of the listed bands very mainstream. The most mainstream would be Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, The Beatles (early), Elton John, etc.

Off topic: Elton John is fantastic. Saw him live February...what a performer!

^ Wish that emoticon had bigger, more flamboyant shades.

Brent · 12-10-2011, 04:41 AM

I think Lady Gaga is really interesting. She's mainstream, but brings art back into the music, and gets people thinking about what it all means. Which I appreciate.

Plus, she's actually talented. Which is weird for pop radio today

And yeah, I love Elton John. He's awesome. Tiny Dancer is one of the best songs ever.

12-10-2011, 03:21 AM	#46
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	I'm not singling you out. I'm just saying that Radiohead are incredibly popular and successful, much to the dismay of their diehard fans. Everyone wants them to themselves, and they're at the point where if they recorded Thom taking a shit and released it people would call it stunning. Most everyone I know is familiar with Radiohead's work (even some dumb sorority girl has "Reckoner" on her iPod, misspelled with no album art). And Coldplay is wayyyy more mainstream, admittedly (I voted U2 though, just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay). But when people call Radiohead "indie music" it's just stupid. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

12-10-2011, 03:28 AM	#47
Kiame الى السماء Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,381 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013476 1. I never said that Radiohead weren't mainstream, only that they were less mainstream than Muse. That may not have been true ten years ago, but it is now. 2. Everyone you know owns a Radiohead record? You must not know very many people. Hardly anyone I know has even heard of them (though they recognize Creep most of the time). I realize that that sounds vaguely hipster of me...but I'm merely stating fact. I wish more people DID know and listen to them. 3. I never said I was superior to you because I like Radiohead better than Coldplay. Obviously I'm not. It's just music, dude, nobody is superior to anyone else because of their musical tastes. 4. I never said they were my band or that they weren't successful. But, to put things into perspective...Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends has sold around two thirds as many copies as all of Radiohead's albums combined. Radiohead have never had a radio hit apart from Creep (though I suppose cases could be made for Karma Police and a couple songs from The Bends). All I said in my post was that Muse are CURRENTLY more mainstream than Radiohead. Hmm.. It all depends where you go man. In the UK, Radiohead is fucking huge. They're a household name - especially with people who were teens in the 90s. I think Radiohead are just as big as Muse are in the UK. Hell, for the first five years of Muse's existence they were known as "those Radiohead clones". U2 and Coldplay are more "mainstream" than both of them though. I can't stand this topic. It implies that "mainstream" is bad. Mainstrem is completely meaningless and says nothing about the band. The Beatles were main stream, ffs.

12-10-2011, 03:31 AM	#48
Kiame الى السماء Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,381 Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013485 , just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay). I think that's only because of how long U2 has been around. They are legends now. It's not cool to hate on legends. When Coldplay has been around for thirty five years I doubt people will be trashing on them as much as they do now.

12-10-2011, 03:33 AM	#49
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013485 I'm not singling you out. I'm just saying that Radiohead are incredibly popular and successful, much to the dismay of their diehard fans. Everyone wants them to themselves, and they're at the point where if they recorded Thom taking a shit and released it people would call it stunning. Most everyone I know is familiar with Radiohead's work (even some dumb sorority girl has "Reckoner" on her iPod, misspelled with no album art). And Coldplay is wayyyy more mainstream, admittedly (I voted U2 though, just because no-one seems to hate U2 like people hate Coldplay). But when people call Radiohead "indie music" it's just stupid. Yeah, I know what you mean. I do know people who hate U2 with a passion, though. "Edge plays the effects pedal, not guitar," "Bono is an ahole," etc. Similar to the general dislike of Chris Martin, actually. I wish everyone I knew was familiar with Radiohead (maybe when I get to college where people listen to something other than Usher and LMFAO). Music conversations would be so much more fun. By the way, Radiohead technically ARE indie now (on an independent label), whereas they weren't before, but I do understand what you're getting at. Quote: Originally Posted by Kiame;5013498 Hmm.. It all depends where you go man. In the UK, Radiohead is fucking huge. They're a household name - especially with people who were teens in the 90s. I think Radiohead are just as big as Muse are in the UK. Hell, for the first five years of Muse's existence they were known as "those Radiohead clones". True. I'm in the U.S, it seems that everyone here has heard of Muse whereas Radiohead is still a giant, Creep-shaped question mark. Twilight seems to have helped Muse along. Quote: Originally Posted by Kiame;5013503** I think that's only because of how long U2 has been around. They are legends now. It's not cool to hate on legends. When Coldplay has been around for thirty five years I doubt people will be trashing on them as much as they do now. That's entirely up to Coldplay. Their potential status as legends all depends on whether they keep on making para-paradises and wa-wa-waterfalls. __________________

12-10-2011, 03:52 AM	#50
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	USHER?! shivers Well, "Yeah" was alright __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

12-10-2011, 03:55 AM	#51
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013522 USHER?! shivers Well, "Yeah" was alright __________________

12-10-2011, 03:58 AM	#52
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	The best thing that's come out of U2 in the past 10 years is that cool-colored black-and-red iPod. Anyway, if I were to rate the quality of the bands above... Coldplay > Radiohead > Muse > U2 But their Mainstream-ness? U2 > Coldplay > Muse > Radiohead (though they are ALL mainstream) __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

12-10-2011, 04:12 AM	#53
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013531 The best thing that's come out of U2 in the past 10 years is that cool-colored black-and-red iPod. Muse > U2 __________________

12-10-2011, 04:14 AM	#54
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013553 I'm not a big U2 fan. I like War, Zooropa and The Joshua Tree. Not a big Muse fan, either. I just put them above U2 because I like Queen. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

12-10-2011, 04:18 AM	#55
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013557 I'm not a big U2 fan. I like War, Zooropa and The Joshua Tree. Not a big Muse fan, either. I just put them above U2 because I like Queen. I'm not a huge fan of recent U2 either, but I think that The Joshua Tree alone is better than all of Muse's work combined. And Muse's worst work is their Queen inspired stuff. United States of Eurasia? Seriously? To each his own, I suppose... You don't like Achtung Baby? __________________

12-10-2011, 04:20 AM	#56
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Hartroc;5013565 I'm not a huge fan of recent U2 either, but I think that The Joshua Tree alone is better than all of Muse's work combined. And Muse's worst work is their Queen inspired stuff. United States of Eurasia? Seriously? To each his own, I suppose... You don't like Achtung Baby? It's okay. I just think U2 is the basic stereotype for rock music. Yawn. And yeah, Muse's stuff is like a Queen clone. When I heard US of E, I was like ARE YOU KIDDING ME? But their fans are vicious, vicious people. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."

12-10-2011, 04:31 AM	#57
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Baw8cc;5013571 It's okay. I just think U2 is the basic stereotype for rock music. Yawn. Hmm...the thing is, U2 only sounds stereotypical now because of all the bands that tried to follow in their footsteps. Listening to them in the context of the 80's...there was really nobody else like them. They basically invented the huge, stadium rock sound. It's not them that's stereotypical, but all the bands that they accidentally created simply by existing. __________________

12-10-2011, 04:35 AM	#58
Karencorpse Coldplayer Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 724 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I don't consider any of the listed bands very mainstream. The most mainstream would be Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, The Beatles (early), Elton John, etc. __________________ Coldplay - July 19, 2009 - Home Depo Center, Carson, CA Warped Tour - May 25, 2010 - Home Depo Center Mell - Nokia Theater - July 2, 2010, LA, CA Ah-Ha - Club Nokia - May 15, 2010, LA, CA Muse - Sept 25, 2010 - Staples Center, LA, CA Sharika - Oct. 2010 - Staples Center, LA, CA Godsmack - Nov 4, 2010 - Nokia Theater

12-10-2011, 04:38 AM	#59
Hartroc Dancing Politik Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 891 My Mood: Location: In a Separate Sky Gender: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: Originally Posted by Karencorpse;5013601 I don't consider any of the listed bands very mainstream. The most mainstream would be Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, The Beatles (early), Elton John, etc. Off topic: Elton John is fantastic. Saw him live February...what a performer! ^ Wish that emoticon had bigger, more flamboyant shades. __________________

12-10-2011, 04:41 AM	#60
Brent Rudy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12,102 My Mood: Location: St. Louis, MO Gender: Country: Chat posts: 0 Thanks given: 204 Thanked 371 Times in 231 Posts	I think Lady Gaga is really interesting. She's mainstream, but brings art back into the music, and gets people thinking about what it all means. Which I appreciate. Plus, she's actually talented. Which is weird for pop radio today And yeah, I love Elton John. He's awesome. Tiny Dancer is one of the best songs ever. __________________ 2-3-2003 - St. Louis, MO - 5-6-2005 - Chicago, IL - 9-17-2005 - St. Louis, MO - 2-26-2006 - Dallas, TX - 3-31-2006 - Chicago, IL - 6-23-2008 - New York City (MSG!) - 11-13-2008 - Kansas City, MO - 7-24-2009 - St. Louis, MO - 8-5-2011 - LOLLAPALOOZA (Chicago, IL) 6-22-2012 - Dallas, TX 7-28-2012 - Chicago, IL Quote: Originally Posted by Wyrd Brent "A name normaly given to the most caring, warm people in the world, these people will make you feel beautiful and always keep you smiling. Sexy 'almost mighty fine' beasts. Its near imposible to not fall in love with a Brent."