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The Problem with Viva la Vida

Discussion in 'Viva la Vida (song)' started by TimeIsOnYourSide, May 7, 2008.

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  1. the_escapist

    By:the_escapistMay 7, 2008
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    we are all clear that is a completely different sound! but it's great - so as I said before, we have to be happy that the guys left us songs like Fix You, The Scientist and Yellow -

    I hope the songs gets bigger on you - and don't give your finally verdict until the whole album is out!!!

    Coldplay will get more commercial - I think that's a fact - but us in this forum are true Coldplay fans and know where the guys come from!

    cheers!!!
     
  2. masterkraig

    By:masterkraigMay 7, 2008
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    I see what you're saying and I didn't realize it before. But, it's a gorgeous song and I can already hear the remixes with more boom-tish... lol

    Maybe for their concerts they'll all bust out with violins, Guy will sexy-bass rock out on a cello and Chris will ring out a renaissance with a clavichord!

    Yes, please!
     
  3. crawlinwithin

    By:crawlinwithinMay 7, 2008
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    wow what a breath of fresh air!
     
  4. TimeIsOnYourSide

    By:TimeIsOnYourSideMay 7, 2008
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    masterkraig.....

    that would be awesome. Personally i would love them to have a pipe organ on stage...
     
  5. omrimayo

    By:omrimayoMay 7, 2008
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    Perfect.

    After VH I didnt know if ever i could love a Coldplay song again... and then it happend. WOW, that's all I can say.

    anyone know y they realese it so early?
    the 2 songs are not going well in itunes :( I afraid that this album will not sell...
     
  6. masterkraig

    By:masterkraigMay 7, 2008
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    It was released for free, so not many people will buy VH right now. Remember, it was downloaded for free by 2 mil people in a week!

    and TimeIsOnOurSide:

    With all the planning for an amazing concert, and their new french revolution theme, I would def not be surprised if they threw some crazy instruments on stage!:D
     
  7. Jayzo

    By:JayzoMay 7, 2008
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    I agree its not the "old" Coldplay as it were - but even tho its different, it still is Coldplay in my eyes. And this song is different, but more importantly its different done well. If Coldplay can make something thats not usually "them" and make it great, then that just reinforces to me how awesome they are.
     
  8. RunForTheHills

    By:RunForTheHillsMay 7, 2008
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    You're right, it IS perfect.

    I think this is one of my top 5 favourite Coldplay songs ever now. Absolutely beautiful.
     
  9. TimeIsOnYourSide

    By:TimeIsOnYourSideMay 7, 2008
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    ^ which is perfect VH or VLV?
     
  10. bergstrommarn

    By:bergstrommarnMay 7, 2008
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    I dont understand why some people look at songs as different individual performances combined. I think it's better to look at a song as one big part. Yes, there's a very simple drumbeat in this song, but they probably felt like the song got better if the drums were "anonymous". They're not "i must have a solo in the song" type of guys as you know, so I think they easily can "sacrifice" their parts in songs just to get them better.

    Well, I don't know if I made myself clear of what I mean but, eh.
     
  11. ApproximatelyInfinite

    By:ApproximatelyInfiniteMay 7, 2008
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    i haven't been able to really read what everyone's said and fully absorb it because i have too much adrenaline and absolute love for this song running through me, but here i go with what i think.

    i agree, after thinking about it, the lack of guitars and real will-esque drumming is missing. it's different in that they're not using the same instruments in the song. but somehow, i think that they retain their essential coldplayness in this song, as they didn't in VH and ASARY. the music is all them, i think, just so perfectly evolved into something new. i think in this song, the evolution is using a different bunch of instruments, like strings. on other songs, the evolution (or change...i find VH and ASARY to be slightly un-coldplay) will be in different ways, those times with guitar and drums etc. this album is supposed to be really varied and different at the same time. right now, because of this song, i LOVE the differentness, because they've given us something COMPLETELY fresh while still having it be coldplay, still having it be beautiful. and i just didn't feel too much when i listened to VH and ASARY. i like them, yeah, but i didn't get that rush of a blooming feeling when i heard them, not the first time, not in the times after. but with VLV...those first notes sent a shiver down my spine, made my hands shake, made my eyes feel like they wanted to cry. this song has quelled my worries about the album, that they'll have tried too hard (again) and that their music will bring new fans in, but alienate the oldies and diehards. now i know that there will be something for everyone on this album. i think we just need to wait for the entire album itself. for me, VLV (the song) is what sold me...for other people it'll be an entirely different song.

    of course, that's just what i think :smiley:. but i'm in love completely. i do think that part of it is excitement and novelty, but i also do think that i'm always going to love this song. it just struck that right chord within me...the way the notes fit together just fit my taste perfectly.
     
  12. BethWhalley

    By:BethWhalleyMay 7, 2008
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    The fact remains that whatever they do, they are going to get some criticism from various parties. If they continued with the generic Coldplayness then people would criticise them for not going outside of their comfort zone like they promised, but as it is there will be people who think that the old classic Coldplay is the best.

    For my part, when I first heard this song it brought tears to my eyes. It is truly beautiful and to me that is the only thing that matters because that is what music is supposed to do to you. Does it really matter whether it sounds like the "old" Coldplay or not??

    It bodes well for the future, I think :)
     
  13. TimeIsOnYourSide

    By:TimeIsOnYourSideMay 7, 2008
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    :laugh1:
     
  14. TimeIsOnYourSide

    By:TimeIsOnYourSideMay 7, 2008
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    the more I listen to it...I am hearing more coldplay elements in it.


    It truly is a beautiful song. His vocal is incredibly strong.
     
  15. melanieau

    By:melanieauMay 7, 2008
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    I had a feeling you might warm up to it:)
     
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    By:ApproximatelyInfiniteMay 7, 2008
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    exactly, exactly. that's better than i ever could have put it in this state. i think in my heart of hearts, that's what i wanted, even though i wouldn't fully admit it. i was calling for old coldplay, really, even though i knew that was pretty insane. but somewhere i knew that as long as it made me feel like AROBTTH and parachutes do, even if it was different, i was satisfied forever. and that's what this does.

    i can't describe how happy i am with this song.
     
  17. mandymcnabb

    By:mandymcnabbMay 7, 2008
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    Stunning!
    It really is.


    I'm just having alot of trouble trying to imagine the live shows.
    How are they going to pull off this new sound and make it mesh well live?
     
  18. Glen

    By:GlenMay 7, 2008
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    Its not a bad song in my opinion but its not jaw droping amazing.
    First time i heard violet hill werent overly impressed but it has grown on me and like it now.
    I know they have moved on. viva la vida has a sort of dance beat to it. As good as these songs are I dont think they are going to be anthems of the past, like Yellow, clocks, in my place, speed of sound etc. Everyone I know who has listened to Violet hill has said its ok and thats it even some are Coldplay fans. I do worry Brian Eno has stepped in with lets pretend we are in the 80's again Coldplay.. oh okay mr Eno and this is the result. I aprreciate the change but even there dress clothing now is like a mix between the Kaiser Chiefs and the Feeling.
    These songs are good but seem to be missing the vibe the old songs had they dont have the feel good factor is i suppose i feel is missing. eg. yellow, clocks, in my place speed of sound, talk etc very catchy songs that always made me feel brilliant. And the more downbeat ones like The scientist and Fix you were beautiful and uplifting. Where as Violet hill which one is it, it doesnt feel magical like yellow nor is it uplifting so what is it apart from a good song?
    Anyway must be open minded the album has yet to be realesed.
     
  19. Fixed

    By:FixedMay 7, 2008
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    The problem with Viva La Vida is that Coldplay have raised the bar even higher yet again - how on earth can this song be topped :p

    And the Kaiser Chiefs clothes thing - I think this was just for the photoshoot.
     
  20. Li_cold

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    Oh my, I just have to make your words my words :)
    You perfectly described my state right now, with all the fear and excitment

    Viva la vida touched my heart in a way that I was desperately looking for. I was looking foward to listen to such a song, that would warm myself and make me feel the Coldplay essence again...Now I can smile openly again...Not that I was afraid that I wouldn't like their new work but it was wonderful to listen to a song that made me so wordless in these times that we all are going crazy for the fourth album.