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Well, I am 23 and I started listening to Coldplay back when I was about 10-11 too. Maybe not properly, but I heard some of their music on rage and remember really liking it.

 

People who "started" on MX don't actually know what the real Coldplay is...

 

 

 

I have to try really hard here to try and take you seriously with this comment... you are joking, right? From what I can recall, I can remember the MX tour being HEAVILY pop-based, mainstream AND I can remember lots and lots of electronica and synths in it? Are we taking about the same album here? MYLO XYLOTO? Appealing to Twi-hards? Ugh,.. I can remember many twi-hards who were present at the MX tour, who were squealing and sitting right in front of me? I don't think you'd find them at a Ghost Stories show?

 

And weak lyrics in comparison to MX? HAHAHAHA, omg you HAVE to be joking here.. Let me give you a SMALL snippet of the awfulness and weakenss that is MX...

 

"When she was just a girl she expected the world/But it flew away from her reach /So she ran away in her sleep and dreamed of/Para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise/Every time she closed her eyes"

 

"Every tear is a waterfall/Oh oh oh/So you can hurt, hurt me bad/But still I'll raise the flag"

 

"When you're tired of waiting you just/Find you never had to stop/Come on baby, don't let it break your heart"

 

I'm pretty sure the kindergarten children I teach could come up with less sugary lyrics than these.

 

Yeah but some of the songs on MX had some good lyrics, you literally just picked the 3 festival songs from the album. If you compare those 3 to magic, ASFOS or Another's Arms you will see that they are equally shitty. But songs like UATW, UWTB, MM had some pretty good lyrics. The only good lyrical song in GS is O. I'm a beginner song writer and I feel my lyrics could compete and possibly win against some of GS lyrics.

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Yeah but some of the songs on MX had some good lyrics, you literally just picked the 3 festival songs from the album. If you compare those 3 to magic, ASFOS or Another's Arms you will see that they are equally shitty. But songs like UATW, UWTB, MM had some pretty good lyrics. The only good lyrical song in GS is O. I'm a beginner song writer and I feel my lyrics could compete and possibly win against some of GS lyrics.

 

I understand that. I do agree there are some nice lyrics in MX, but the over production of the album doesn't allow one to highlight the beauty of those lyrics. They were all just secondary to the horrible synths and sugary pop vibe that the album had. Chris did write some good songs on it, but I don't feel they were matched instrumentally. Coldplay has always been about a lovely balance between soft lyrics and soft music. MX didn't have the balance.

 

I can understand that there are *some* equally weak lyrics in GS, but because the album is not pop-based, the lyrics tend to stand on their own against the music. I think what made MX so popular with some was the ability to "forget" the lyrics for the background noise. GS doesn't have the lyrics of AROBBTH or Parachutes, but I don't think they are as bad as everyone makes out.

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People who "started" on MX don't actually know what the real Coldplay is...

 

This! I liked MX but of course it is their worst album, It was made for the crazy little girls on twitter.

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This! I liked MX but of course it is their worst album, It was made for the crazy little girls on twitter.

inb4 some crazy girls on Twitter see this and lose their shit :P

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Just listened to the album for the first time and i quite like it. Obviously its not their best album, nowhere near it but its still good.

 

But there are criticisms. Like jonnys solo on true love is just weird lol, its like hes playing a whole different song and its just out of place. Or he hit the wrong note lol.

 

Also, what is that crap on the end of oceans? It goes on for like a minute, totally ruining the song. Trying to be pink floyd.

 

And then that awkward two minute silence after O, is that even necessary? Were they just trying to make the album seem longer? Why a whole two minute wait until the bonus track comes on, completely pointless.

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Ofcourse MX is their worst album, if you started liking Coldplay during that era you clearly SUCK!!!! Look at me being a REAL FAN! I WAS 6 WHEN I STARTED LISTENING TO THEM I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT OKAY!!!! The Safety EP is clearly their best release.

 

ALSO TWILIGHT SUCKS I WRITE MY OWN SONGS

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I long for the lyrical days of Kingdom Come and Square One

 

 

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WHAT IF THERE WAS NO LIE

NOTHING WRONG NOTHING RIGHT

WHAT IF THERE WAS NO TIME

AND NO REASON OR RHYME

 

OOOOOOOOOOOH THAT'S RIIIIIGHT!!!!

 

Genius.

 

My point is, with the example of X&Y and the Pointless Worrying Song, there are a fair amount of duds over time

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- Electric drums instead of acoustic.

- Felt very chris-centric

- No song really stuck out to me. The only song that I see playing 3 years from now would be AIMH

 

This + 1000. I'm struggling with myself for this feeling but how can you tell it's William Champion playing drums and not anyone else? Well, you can't. Generic Synth drums could totally be made by Chris himself. Listen to INK. What are Will and Jonny doing while that song plays? I can't even hear bass. Always In My Head is the only song with the Cold-Identity I could hear until now.

I am really really angry with myself for not liking it as much as I wanted and I am trying very hard but Coldplay is more than Chris Martin to me.

 

both of these 10000x. I don't know how they'll play any of these except Stars in concert without boring the crowd. This feels like a chris martin solo project more than a coldplay album. Not to be rude, but my expectations were somewhat lowered once I heard Magic as their first single

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I remember seeing a video of Gwyneth being interviewed on Oprah (talking about "The Nappies" of all things). She was talking about Chris' songwriting being very abstract, not "I woke up and made eggs for breakfast this morning" type of lyrics. I think this got taken to another level in VLV and MX's songs.

 

While I like all the songs a lot after a second listen through, some of the lyrics just seem too "ordinary"? I don't know if that's the right word or not. Especially the lyrics in Another's Arms / Ink. I always imagined Chris Martin's songwriting "universe" for the lack of a better term didn't have lines like "late night watching TV' or songs about getting tattoos. They're just not as abstract as usual.

 

It's not a bad thing per se, but its going to take some getting used to.

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Really only a few small gripes...

 

I'm picky but at the first "put yourself into me" in another's arms, Chris' voice f**ks up a little bit

 

Also those dissonant notes in Jonnys solo in true love are a little unsettling... But I'm sure ill appreciate them wih more listens

 

And yeah the lyrics aren't brilliant the entire album.... The only line that is really really bad is the first one in Ink. 2gether thru life... That's just painful

I agree about the Jonny solo - made me cringe - it just sounds so wrong - sorry. Maybe it will grow on me. Way too much synth. effect . Just not enough real CP sounds.

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Things I don't understand:

 

1 - We heard the album (eg: live versions) before it release and only now, after the release, people start complaning that the album sucks? I mean if it's bad now, then should be before, I guess, and I don't remember seeing any or such "hate".

2 - The album is about a heart-broken, did you really expect songs with "loud and fast" tunes?

3 - It's a personal album, for Chris, of course he made the lyrics weak, so he could express what he feels/felt without "bashing" Gwyneth. He knew this album would become popular because of the breakup so he didn't get into details.

 

 

When I heard the album in overall I could feel the "thing" of being heartbroken. GS is all about that.

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While I think Ghost Stories is a great album I just don't think there are any particularly remarkable songs. I was just thinking in a couple of years time and let's say the band were on a stadium tour, what songs from Ghost Stories would be on the ideal setlist? Apart from O which would be a great acoustic number, there aren't any others that stand out compared to their previous work. Ok so A Sky full of Stars is upbeat but it's not that great lyrically, I even prefer Every Teardrop to that. Always in my Head is my second favourite track after O but it is a bit depressing and I'm not sure I could listen to it a lot because of that.

 

Look don't get me wrong I think the record is excellently produced and I think they've been brave in the risk they've taken in making it. Also with the album just released, I understand none of the tracks will have had time to become classics yet but I still think there aren't any strong contenders. Will I be listening to the album in a year or so? I'm not entirely sure.

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I'll say again - I think the album is a brilliant collection of songs.

And we all know the context - and the nature of the quick release.

So as much as I love GS - I believe it's only a prelude to a bigger and even better album in 2015.

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I think Magic will be around - it's catchy, chill and people clap along to the beat - I can hear entire crowds singing along to the chorus easily. Midnight will be a show stopper in terms of visuals and sound.

 

I think the transition from Oceans into Sky Full of Stars is an easy one, but Sky is on par with ETIAW and Viva in terms of anthems. True Love could work here and there. Easily Always in my Head... it's such a blissful track with some of the best guitar/bass work by j and guy, and the synths work perfectly.

 

O for sure. So i'd say 5 to 7 songs could work long term. O and AIMH would be enough for me, coupled with their three singles ASFOS, Magic, Midnight - they easily could play these in an arena.

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only listened to the album once, and from that first listen I am underwhelmed. Disappointed, maybe my expectations were to high, very few songs on it stand out for me.

 

Before any of you start, this is my opinion on listening to it once, so don't have a go, everyones entitled to an opinion and this is mine. It may change!

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I bought Ghost Stories first thing yesterday morning on the way to work. It doesn't help that I am facing a similar situation in my own life, so this whole album hits me very hard right now. In watching the Zane Lowe interview that Chris did, I completely get all of the music how he probably intended it to be received. For me, it's not about whether I like it or not. This album isn't about me. It's about Chris and what has happened in his life. A very personal record. He said he doesn't care what anyone thinks of it. The songs are reflective of the pain he has gone through, but most of all his own recognition of the fact that he has work to do in his own life. Too often in a lot of the reviews I have read on the interwebs (not many here), people make it about their wants and needs, which sound like opinions. Things either resonate with you or they don't. Little things here and there .... same thing. I dug for the deeper meaning and found it.....

 

I can see the flow between the tracks and it's absolutely perfect. It starts light and airy with Always In My Head, gets gradually darker with the lyrics of songs towards the middle and then up to a hopeful place at the end with O. For me, this is a perfect expression of how many of us work in this regard. Things I always never had words for. Clarity I've not had in these kinds of instances. The interview showed us a side of him, while he was careful about how much he showed, that shows there is a true human inside that can be hurt but also one that knows he has a gift of music as his outlet. Things I wish I had, but don't. You could tell when O was playing in the background, he had a hard time listening if you watch closely.

 

Between True Love (brings me to my knees) and O (takes me to the hopeful place where everything is going to be ok), I'm going the places I need to go for me. Seeing what I need to do to keep going, no matter how hard it gets. Thanks for this album Coldplay .... perfect music for this time of my life....

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Things I don't understand:[/color][/b] (Great song :D)

 

1 - We heard the album (eg: live versions) before it release and only now, after the release, people start complaning that the album sucks? I mean if it's bad now, then should be before, I guess, and I don't remember seeing any or such "hate".

2 - The album is about a heart-broken, did you really expect songs with "loud and fast" tunes?

3 - It's a personal album, for Chris, of course he made the lyrics weak, so he could express what he feels/felt without "bashing" Gwyneth. He knew this album would become popular because of the breakup so he didn't get into details.

 

 

When I heard the album in overall I could feel the "thing" of being heartbroken. GS is all about that.

 

Yes, I expected at least one song full of rage.

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