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Kind of sad they already released Coloratura. Imagine all the buzz we would have had listening to MotS for the very first time and this masterpiece coming on. I'm a bit upset with myself that i couldnt resist listening when they dropped it...

Sometimes i felt like they really wanted to show us - " Hey, we're not only into pop music". And they're fckin right😎

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Quick question: am I wrong to assume that - given the fact that My Universe has not even passed the 50M streams on Spotify - this song is, just like Higher Power, not really well received by mainstream audiences, given the number of monthly listeners that Coldplay typically have on for example Spotify? 

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Another quick question: it is becoming clear that - with this new Album and for example its collaborations - Coldplay produces music with the intention of appealing to a ‘new’ generation of fans. Knowing that, it is much easier to ‘accept’ songs such as My Universe, or a collaboration with someone like Selina Gomez.

It does leave me wondering though: why do they choose to incorporate so few elements that most people would argue are typical ‘Coldplay’ in their new songs, but then release a single song - Coloratura - which is like fully covered with Coldplay elements? 
 

My Universe could have been better received by large audiences if they had added a little more of that style which people ‘expect’ from Coldplay.

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57 minutes ago, JustSomeone said:

Quick question: am I wrong to assume that - given the fact that My Universe has not even passed the 50M streams on Spotify - this song is, just like Higher Power, not really well received by mainstream audiences, given the number of monthly listeners that Coldplay typically have on for example Spotify? 

Good point. Also Spotify had just never updated their spotify numbers until right now. They jumped from 35 mil to 56 mil streams after I think 3 days.

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2 hours ago, JustSomeone said:

Quick question: am I wrong to assume that - given the fact that My Universe has not even passed the 50M streams on Spotify - this song is, just like Higher Power, not really well received by mainstream audiences, given the number of monthly listeners that Coldplay typically have on for example Spotify? 

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4 hours ago, Westminster said:

Kind of sad they already released Coloratura. Imagine all the buzz we would have had listening to MotS for the very first time and this masterpiece coming on. I'm a bit upset with myself that i couldnt resist listening when they dropped it...

Sometimes i felt like they really wanted to show us - " Hey, we're not only into pop music". And they're fckin right😎

The thing is, if they didn't release Coloratura the entire Internet's Anti-Coldplay agenda would be in full swing.

"They haven't made anything good since Viva!"

"BTS and Selena? No thanks!"

"I want to see classic Coldplay, not stupid pop dance Coldplay"

"Max Martin only does stupid pop songs!"

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I like everything from that clip- the vocals, the piano, the lyrics are actually my favorite part. But why that beat? They always do this. Will is such a talented drummer. Who goes "You know what this needs to top it off? A generic drum machine (my assumption) in the back!"

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4 hours ago, TheBigBadBono said:

The thing is, if they didn't release Coloratura the entire Internet's Anti-Coldplay agenda would be in full swing.

"They haven't made anything good since Viva!"

"BTS and Selena? No thanks!"

"I want to see classic Coldplay, not stupid pop dance Coldplay"

"Max Martin only does stupid pop songs!"

this + we still have people of the pride to surprise casual listeners

speaking of max martin, coldplay was probably one of his most challenging collabs, i assume he had a lot of fun

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I'm still kinda pressed over My Universe not going #1 in the UK but they made history in the US lol. Anyway, the song debuted at #9 on Japan with only two/three days of counting, if they manage to go #1 there it would be remarkable as well since it's really hard for a foreign act.

Coldplay is arguably the last band stading in the mainstream music industry and are still able to put out top notch material like Coloratura after 23 years of career... This is just... insane. Do you guys ever thought about how we stan literal legends?

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Based on what I have heard so far (full songs and clips) I think that this album is going to be surprisingly good, Production and mixing seems constantly great and varied. And it seems like they have done album, where each song is going to distinctively stand out on its own. That's a great thing, this concept is strong, probably stronger than Mylo, but it's not quite achieving Mylo level overall. It's certainly better than AHFOD, but Mylo, Viva, A Rush of Blood, Parachutes and Everyday Life have more this raw songwriting quality. I kind of feel like MoTS is certainly lacking a bit this pure songwriting x-factor and it seems to be opinion what most of Coldplayers agree. Production is going to foreshadow the songwriting overall for sure. Of course there are occasional great gems in this one too, not saying it's all terrible.

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4 hours ago, CP-EST said:

Based on what I have heard so far (full songs and clips) I think that this album is going to be surprisingly good, Production and mixing seems constantly great and varied. And it seems like they have done album, where each song is going to distinctively stand out on its own. That's a great thing, this concept is strong, probably stronger than Mylo, but it's not quite achieving Mylo level overall. It's certainly better than AHFOD, but Mylo, Viva, A Rush of Blood, Parachutes and Everyday Life have more this raw songwriting quality. I kind of feel like MoTS is certainly lacking a bit this pure songwriting x-factor and it seems to be opinion what most of Coldplayers agree. Production is going to foreshadow the songwriting overall for sure. Of course there are occasional great gems in this one too, not saying it's all terrible.

I see where you're coming from.

To begin with, you're comparing it to MX which has to be both the most underrated album amongst the fans in general and on this site, specifically. 

My Universe has pretty generic and overall poor lyrics. Some of the bass and guitar is good but we know what they're going for. It's not something I hate like Magic or Hymn for the Weekend though, it's mostly inoffensive.

Higher Power has its moments and is a pretty good song, actually. Shame about what they did to Jonny's guitar but they like doing that.

Coloratura is ome of the best songs I've ever heard but I've already shared my thoughts on that.

(Human) Heart is great, although initially I wasn't a huge fan of the sparse instrumentation. Love the vocal combination and the lyrics are so humanistic.

People of the Pride reminds me a lot of Muse and I love how they included lyrics from The Man Who Swears. It's way more rock sounding than anything I expected to hear on this album. This based on the live version, of course.

And overall, I like what little we've heard from Let Somebody Go.

I expected a sea change from the high of Everday Life to something maybe as low as Ghost Stories. Especially since they saw the album and singles weren't nearly as popular as most others in the past- I figured they would overcorrect. But I like what I've heard so far.

I don't know if theyre capable of making an album as good as Viva la Vida ever again, if only because of how mich Chris has leaned into modern pop music and has (seemingly) convinced the others to come along for the ride.

Guessing I'll like it less than VlVoDaAHF, ARoBttH, Parachutes, MX and EL, more than GS and AHFOD and probably right around X&Y. Keep in mind, anyone who has heard what is out there has heard most of the album, already. But maybe there will be a bonus track or two. :thinking:

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Well, I dont agrre with the general possitive point of view I´ve read here from the new album. I think that as fans we should be more ¿fussy/exigent? with the band.

There is a road from Viva la Vida/MX to pop music that I think is not good for Coldplay. Sometimes I have the feeling that they go to easy, to some very simple formulas that they (and the record company) know it works. And, Why? EL show us that they can make some "not mainstream music" and still get the nº1 in charts. Songs like Arabesque or Coloratura in this new album has had very good reception. They did it earlier with GS and sons like Midnight.

So, why they insist (and I think is specially Chris) to make songs like My Universe or High Power that musically dont contribute anything, is electropop music, very empty. Just listen the instrumental versions of this songs... Is only to get nº1 in charts? They dont need that, they can shell lot of albums and singles without this pop formula.

And its awful to see that the Coldplay discography is filling up with that type of songs like SJLT, Orphans, My Universe, Hym for the Weekend... that are very far from what more of us "understand" what is a "coldplay song".

 

 

Sorry for my poor english, in spanish I could explaning best.

The point is that I dont like this pop sound that Coldplay have since many years. I dont know if Im the only one here thinking that...

The could do that with the Los Unidades name instead of Coldplay, and let Coldplay for their less mainstrain songs or not pop.

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4 hours ago, ToniMoreno said:

Well, I dont agrre with the general possitive point of view I´ve read here from the new album. I think that as fans we should be more ¿fussy/exigent? with the band.

There is a road from Viva la Vida/MX to pop music that I think is not good for Coldplay. Sometimes I have the feeling that they go to easy, to some very simple formulas that they (and the record company) know it works. And, Why? EL show us that they can make some "not mainstream music" and still get the nº1 in charts. Songs like Arabesque or Coloratura in this new album has had very good reception. They did it earlier with GS and sons like Midnight.

So, why they insist (and I think is specially Chris) to make songs like My Universe or High Power that musically dont contribute anything, is electropop music, very empty. Just listen the instrumental versions of this songs... Is only to get nº1 in charts? They dont need that, they can shell lot of albums and singles without this pop formula.

And its awful to see that the Coldplay discography is filling up with that type of songs like SJLT, Orphans, My Universe, Hym for the Weekend... that are very far from what more of us "understand" what is a "coldplay song".

 

 

Sorry for my poor english, in spanish I could explaning best.

The point is that I dont like this pop sound that Coldplay have since many years. I dont know if Im the only one here thinking that...

The could do that with the Los Unidades name instead of Coldplay, and let Coldplay for their less mainstrain songs or not pop.

Coloratura - 4.1 million views

My Universe - 43 million views

 

There's your answer. But it's not like the band are being forced to make more pop sounding songs, they want to and enjoy doing them. 

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4 hours ago, ToniMoreno said:

Well, I dont agrre with the general possitive point of view I´ve read here from the new album. I think that as fans we should be more ¿fussy/exigent? with the band.

There is a road from Viva la Vida/MX to pop music that I think is not good for Coldplay. Sometimes I have the feeling that they go to easy, to some very simple formulas that they (and the record company) know it works. And, Why? EL show us that they can make some "not mainstream music" and still get the nº1 in charts. Songs like Arabesque or Coloratura in this new album has had very good reception. They did it earlier with GS and sons like Midnight.

So, why they insist (and I think is specially Chris) to make songs like My Universe or High Power that musically dont contribute anything, is electropop music, very empty. Just listen the instrumental versions of this songs... Is only to get nº1 in charts? They dont need that, they can shell lot of albums and singles without this pop formula.

And its awful to see that the Coldplay discography is filling up with that type of songs like SJLT, Orphans, My Universe, Hym for the Weekend... that are very far from what more of us "understand" what is a "coldplay song".

 

 

Sorry for my poor english, in spanish I could explaning best.

The point is that I dont like this pop sound that Coldplay have since many years. I dont know if Im the only one here thinking that...

The could do that with the Los Unidades name instead of Coldplay, and let Coldplay for their less mainstrain songs or not pop.


I get what you're saying, and I agree in parts, but the thing is: we just need to accept that this is a new Coldplay. At least that's what I did.

The band I fell in love was the old one, from the first 3 albums. I really wanted them to follow that route, but things change and it's really unfair to ask them to be the same thing they used to be.

Do I think they are making some "lazy music" since MX? I do, it's pretty generic most of the time. I think they can be better than that. But it is what it is. They embraced the Pop formula and that's fine. I know it's hard and I used to be really disappointed, but I had to understand that probably that old Coldplay will never come back. It's a new band and I realized that I can get used to it.

Pop Coldplay can be enjoyable, there's a lot of their DNA on the new things. I'm still not a fan of the My Universes, SJLT, Hymns for the Weekend... but in each project I still find something that I love, that reminds me of the first albums. And that's what makes it worth to still be a fan :)

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33 minutes ago, PHReb10 said:


I get what you're saying, and I agree in parts, but the thing is: we just need to accept that this is a new Coldplay. At least that's what I did.

The band I fell in love was the old one, from the first 3 albums. I really wanted them to follow that route, but things change and it's really unfair to ask them to be the same thing they used to be.

Do I think they are making some "lazy music" since MX? I do, it's pretty generic most of the time. I think they can be better than that. But it is what it is. They embraced the Pop formula and that's fine. I know it's hard and I used to be really disappointed, but I had to understand that probably that old Coldplay will never come back. It's a new band and I realized that I can get used to it.

Pop Coldplay can be enjoyable, there's a lot of their DNA on the new things. I'm still not a fan of the My Universes, SJLT, Hymns for the Weekend... but in each project I still find something that I love, that reminds me of the first albums. And that's what makes it worth to still be a fan 🙂

I love your opinion and I feel you!  Remember that the band is doing this not to become more popular or to top the charts - they are having a blast and genuinely enjoy this “pop sound”. They love performing these songs live as well - one can tell. Curious, have you been to a live show?  The beauty about the live shows is that you get the old songs as well!  There is no longer a specific “Coldplay” sound anymore. They have been around for 20 years which is mind boggling because I feel like time has flown by so fast.  

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Basically I agree with both of you because even though their "original sound" has obviously changed over time, some of their pop songs are still enjoyable. I'm far from appreciating everything that I they have put out after Viva, but when I occasionally listen to generic pop music, in many cases I prefer their pop sound to many other artists (even though I also fell in love with Coldplay listening to the first four albums, which are my favourite ones).

Every now and then they still experiment with something new, so I don't really think they are exclusively stuck in pop music. I don't know, and actually I'm not even interested in knowing, if this might be a strategy to expand their fan base or whatever. I've come to terms with their choice to keep evolving in different directions (included the pop one), if this allows them to be still out there and to put out a "Coloratura" or a "Everyday life lp" from time to time. 

I think it is a bit tricky to consider their production in terms of old/new sound, because for example even though I love Coloratura and I've appreciated lp8, to me their sound is quite different from the old albums. In other words, I don't think they will ever go completely back to their origins, and this could make sense, as we have already at least 3 albums with the same style. But maybe we will get something even better, if they keep experimenting, who knows. 

Personally so far I like 3 songs of the tracks we know in MOTS, but none of them resembles the "typical Coldplay sound", and I'm ok with it 🙂

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I assume that the band has discussed this issue and the solution they came up with is: yes, we are going to make pop albums like AHFOD AND MOTS, but we will also make eclectic projects like Ghost Stories and Everyday Life.

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2 hours ago, PHReb10 said:


I get what you're saying, and I agree in parts, but the thing is: we just need to accept that this is a new Coldplay. At least that's what I did.

The band I fell in love was the old one, from the first 3 albums. I really wanted them to follow that route, but things change and it's really unfair to ask them to be the same thing they used to be.

Do I think they are making some "lazy music" since MX? I do, it's pretty generic most of the time. I think they can be better than that. But it is what it is. They embraced the Pop formula and that's fine. I know it's hard and I used to be really disappointed, but I had to understand that probably that old Coldplay will never come back. It's a new band and I realized that I can get used to it.

Pop Coldplay can be enjoyable, there's a lot of their DNA on the new things. I'm still not a fan of the My Universes, SJLT, Hymns for the Weekend... but in each project I still find something that I love, that reminds me of the first albums. And that's what makes it worth to still be a fan :)

 

They cant sound exactly as in their first albums, thats make sense. But They can choose to make music that looks like an evolution from their old jobs. One good example is People of the Pride, that show us how can they sound if they wanted, with a more rock sound.

Maybe the point is that they (and I think Chris and Will specially) love make pop music. Its correct, and obviously they are free to make the music that they feel or like, but that cant meaning zero critics and always clap what they do (Im talking in general).

I (we) know what they can do, and I think that we have to demand Coldplay to make music at this level, not conform with everything they do.

Its true that in all LP we have very special material, but it seems like we have always to conform to only 1-2-3 songs in a LP, and normally in their concerts this type of songs are out or background.

 

I´m thinking now in the Kaleidoscope EP, where 4 of the 5 songs were very good, but what is the material that the band promotes and play live? Even in the Tokyo Live on the AHFOD tour they didnt put All I Can Think About Is You, when this was the live debut of that song.

 

I know that this opinion is very minoruty, but is what I feel.

 

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Many bands change their style over time because of changing tastes both in the bands and the people listening to them. Radiohead radically changed their style twice, with the releases of OK Computer and Kid A. The late David Bowie's style is almost unrecognisable on The Next Day and Blackstar/No Plan compared to his early days. Feeder changed, albeit on a smaller scale, from the hard rock of Just A Day to the art rock of Just The Way I'm Feeling (a really good song by the way; worth a listen). Katy Perry started off quite respectfully - Hot 'N Cold was great. Her newer songs less so. Coldplay's change is to be expected, and luckily I quite like a lot of their modern stuff (bar AHFOD, which was pretty poorly made most of the time).

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I already had my "oh no they're selling out" moment around MX in 2011. Ten years on and I'm just along for the ride. Coldplay are going to put out a pop album every second album, that's just the way it is now. They still release albums like Everyday Life and songs like Coloratura every now and then so I still think they're worth following. And for whatever it's worth, MOTS is shaping up to be a stronger album than AHFOD. Would I rather Coldplay continued in the direction of VLV? Of course, but I don't see much point in complaining about it now. Pop Coldplay is not my favourite Coldplay by any means, but generally speaking they do a better take on it than most pop artists in the charts. If they are going to do this ultra-radio friendly mainstream pop sound I'd rather hear it done well, and for the most part Coldplay do it well. 

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On 10/5/2021 at 1:37 PM, TheBigBadBono said:

The thing is, if they didn't release Coloratura the entire Internet's Anti-Coldplay agenda would be in full swing.

"They haven't made anything good since Viva!"

"BTS and Selena? No thanks!"

"I want to see classic Coldplay, not stupid pop dance Coldplay"

"Max Martin only does stupid pop songs!"

Yup and I would be one of them! 😂

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I’ve just finished watching the How you see the World 2006 concert and while there was something quite special about the older Coldplay, I’m really glad they are where they are now. I fully support their pop inclination because Coldplay know how to put out an absolute BANGER, plus it’s earning them tremendous success (huge sales, sold out stadium shows, big name collabs, etc) Especially with the new album. Max Martin really has been the gift we needed after the stargate episode with AHFOD and the muddy mixing of MX (as much as I love this album). Pop isn’t their only direction though, they are also exploring different sounds and genres as they had with EL. Guy even mentioned that they’ve been in their most ‘creative period’ while recording this project. So far it’s been paying off and I really do think this album will be Coldplay’s new peak. 💜

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