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Danke, aber ich habe keine Lust, youtube zu durchforsten und User dort anzuschreiben um nach den Originalvideos zu fragen. Hatte gehofft, dass Leute von hier sich melden würden damit das ganze schneller und vielleicht organisierter vonstatten gehen kann. Ich hatte ja ursprünglich vor, das komplette Konzert mizufilmen, aber da hier keiner wirkliche Unterstützung anbot, habe ich es gelassen und nur 5-6 Songs gefilmt. Sehr schadem noch dazu weil ich kurz vor dem Konzert erfuhr, dass das Konzert im Radio übertragen wird, also eine top Audioquelle da ist. Gestern Abend habe ich aus Neugier mal gesucht, was es zu Hurts Like Heaven zu finden gibt und habe diese schnelle Multicam gemacht, einfach um mal zu sehen wie es potentiell aussehen könnte: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SevptGZFI8]Coldplay - Hurts Like Heaven (2012-09-12 - Munich) -MULTICAM DRAFT- - YouTube[/ame] Ganz passabel. Aber wie gesagt, hab ich keinen Bock (mehr) das mit der Organisation der Files alles alleine zu stemmen, bzw. überhaupt. Habe eh nicht viel Zeit wegen der Arbeit und einer Bruce Springsteen-Multicam, die ich derzeit mache. Noch dazu habe ich immer weniger Lust, großteils verwackelte Videos und Videoschnipsel mühsam zu synchronisieren (Springsteenfans sind daganz schlimm teilweise :D) um eine möglichst optimale Kameraführung zu bekommen, oder das Problem mit den Geistergesichtern zu akzeptieren. Bin da seit ein paar Projekten etwas pingeliger geworden, bzw. weniger motiviert deswegen :\.

I wanted to but since nobody ever responded I turned this plan down.

Sony Cybershot hx9v. P-Modus, EV -1,3 Es gibt aber auch ein neueres Model mittlerweile.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aC3FQLBIc]Coldplay - Yellow (2012-09-04 - Cologne) - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN4ML2UsIFQ]Coldplay - Up In Flames (2012-09-04 - Cologne) - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWJxVjcrck]Coldplay - Fix You / Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall (2012-09-04 - Cologne) - YouTube[/ame] I'll be in Munich next week, too. Got seats there and will record the complete show. I want to make a multicam DVD, so if anyone wants to help by filming a bit (in HD if possible), plz contact me.

Hi there Nochmals zur Erinerung, falls jemand beim Konzert etwas mitfilmt: Es gibt ein Multicamprojekt für München --> http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91468

It doesn't look as if I should put an effort in filming the complete Munich show as almost no one is in for contributing. Well, fair enough :\.

*bump* There are still plans for a multicam of the Munich concert. Plz contact me if you plan to film smth in HD and 16:9 and want to help.

Das hat auch immer mit Sicherheitsbstimmungen zu tun. Bei U2 durften damals auch nicht alle Blöcke verkauft werden (schräg hinter und hinter der Bühne selbst z.B.) weil das vermutlich i-wie als zusätzlicher Fluchtweg oder so bestimmt war. ----- Ich möchte an dieser Stelle darauf hinweisen, dass ein sog. Multicamprojekt für München geplant ist. Vielleicht hat sich ja der eine oder andere vorgenommen, beim Konzert ein bisschen was zu filmen. Wenn dies in HD passieren sollte, wäre ich sehr dankbar für jeden kompletten Song oder auch Schnipsel da ich plane, eine HD- sowie DVD9-Version zu machen. Bevor hier gleich Proteste von wegen "ich will nicht die ganze Zeit eine Kamera vor der Nase haben" / "Ich hasse Leute, die das Konzert nicht genießen sondern die ganze Zeit ihre Cam in die Höhe halten" etc pp ;): Das verlange ich auch gar nicht, man kann bestimmt auch durch die Leute hindurch filmen. Wenn man mal nen Arm im Blickfeld hat kommt die Atmosphäre besser rüber mMn. Auf was es mir ankommen würde wäre, dass, wenn man sagt ich filme 5 Songs mit, dann während diesen Songs auch (versucht), ruhig zu filmen. Wenn etwas zu wackelig ist, bringt das wenig für die Multicam. Ich werde in München Sitzplatz gegenüber der Bühne haben und plane, einen kompletten Audio- wie Videomitschnitt zu machen. Also Audio ist schonmal sicher. Ich kann bei Videoediting Erfahrung aufweisen da ich von diversen U2-Konzerten der letzten Tour diese Arbeit übernommen habe. Hier 2 Beispiele von von mir editierten Multicams: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX4RsnBa6Fo]U2 - New Year's Day + Get On Your Boots (Frankfurt 2010) -MULTICAM DRAFT- - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmusUCjdLf4]U2 - 2010-08-20 Helsinki Multicam Teaser - YouTube[/ame] Es ist selbstredend dass dies ein Fanprojekt ist und damit absolut kein Profit gemacht wird. Die fertige Multicam würde ich auf einer Torrentseite zur Verteilung hochladen. Zur Motivation hier noch ein Beispielvideo für die Multicam von Coldplay in Paris letztes Jahr: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0z16H9WQM8]Coldplay - Charlie Brown - Paris bercy 14 Decembre 2011 multicam preview - YouTube[/ame] PS: Sollte sich jemand vornehmen, beim Konzert neben ein paar Fotos auch was in HD aufzunehmen, dazu aber noch die nötige Pocketcam gekauft werden will, so empfehle ich die Sony Cybershot hx9v (das neueste Modell - auch entsprechend teurer - ist hier die hx20v). Die 9v hat im Vergleich zur Panasonic Lumix TZ7 und den 2 Folgemodellen KEINE Probleme mit dem Weißabgleich (Stichwort "Geistergesichter" - siehe U2 Beispielvideos von oben) und durch den CMOS-Sensor entstehen auch keine Linien im Bild wenn man die Kamera in einem ungünstigen Winkel zu Scheinwerfern hält. Das neueste Model der TZ-Reihe, die TZ30, scheint diesen CMOS-Sensor aber endlich zu haben - habe aber keine Erfahrungen mit dieser Cam. Die Cybershot- und Lumix-Modelle sind alle klein genug um sie ohne Probleme ins Stadion zu bringen und sie alle nehmen in HD auf, die 9v auch in bestmöglicher HD-Qualität. Beispiel für hv9 (die Cams dieser Multicam bestehen zu 75% aus der 9v bei gleichen Settings): [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PljxHQbxBug]U2 Anaheim 2011-06-18 04 - Until the End of the World - YouTube[/ame] Falls noch jemand Audio plant aufzunehmen, bitte melden damit es eine Absicherung gibt bzw. eine Matrix gemacht werden kann :)

Here's another preview for the Paris multicam, maybe it helps motivate people: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjZQW_iAD28]Coldplay - Violet Hill - Paris bercy 14 Decembre 2011 Multicam preview - YouTube[/ame]

Most work is really up to the editors. For example if enough ppl say "I will record 3 songs in Munich" you don't necessarily have to swear you will record song a or song b. But if you want to go for specific songs you could add that to your comment of course, that way others can concentrate on other songs. On the other hand tho, this "I'll record ..." can also cause some fuss so I never used this in the "organization". There were about 15 people for the Frankfurt multicam that said beforehand "I'll record some songs in HD from GA/stands" and eventually the cameras, together with people I found through youtube, were very well balanced throughout the concert. The purpose of this thread / listing should be of help for editors who to rely upon as a good start for a possible multicam project devoted to a specific concert. Great you would help with The Hague, R23! Let's hope you can collect enough good sources, and of course a good audio pops up. I believe this will be the hardest part.

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I highly doubt they'll get a sold out stadium in Germany. Large arenas yes, but stadiumswith 30,000+?

Ich erinnere mich dass von Radiohead was lief, aber ich denke nicht, dass das Lied das Gesuchte ist, denn ich suche das gleiche wie f50ga1 wie es scheint ;).

@ Cheese Nip 2: Digicams are allowed. DSLR cams for example aren't. Also camcorders aren'T allowed but I never had a problem getting one in and film when I had seats and enough people were around me. @ dreamorlife: Personally I'd appreciate a multicam dedicated to one concert only, and not a mix of various concerts. But that's just my opinion. ----- Great timing as I planned to post something about multicam projects here, too. I will see Coldplay twice next year (Cologne - FOS and Munich - stands) and plan to film Munich completely in HD as my seat is right at the balcony in the middle of the block, so no people should be in front of me ;). I also plan (nothing concrete!) to record audio in Munich, either audience or IEM if I can make it work - and afford it. I don't intend to play the big boss here but can contribute lots of experience how to (best) organize such a thing. Frankly, I did exactly this with the U2 360° Tour when they played in Europe in 2010, and also participated in a rather advanced project for U2's Anaheim concerts last year. The best thing to make this happen is when some people devote themselves to filming something so there's a starting point. A second step can be done by asking youtube users to upload their original raw video files to a site like megaupload.com in order to keep the high quality of the videos. So here's just a suggestion how this could be done: - Create a list (US-leg, Europe-Leg) which looks (for example) like this ^^ People just post in the thread where, what, how much they could contribute and someone takes care of the list and updates it. After the concert the editor of the multicam will contact the people from his concert list and tell them what to do with the files (torrent them, upload them, snail mail them, FTP...) I don't know if there are audio tapers out there who would tape AND share their audio for the multicam project/generally. An audio is always the source it all depends on (in my opinion) because it's not so much fun to have audio quality changes between or even in songs. However, I highly, highly recommend that the people who edit only use HD-sourced video files from "real" HD camcorders/digicams. IPhone-HD-videos might be HD but you can tell the difference to a camcorder. But sometimes/often you gotta use them, too, for the benefit of the concert experience. This means do not download videos off youtube unless you really, really need it and can life with it (and if the user doesn't reply to your messages). The HD-videos might be OK if it's a wide angle but not if it zooms in (I edited 6 multicam concerts of U2's 360° Tour and never used youtube-rips but only original video files). As for equipment: If you plan to buy a digicam for concerts that can film HD-videos, make sure to buy one that has an Exmor Sensor. This avoids those annoying "lines" in videos when you record against a spotlight and you also won't have overexposed faces (aka "attack of the snowman") --> [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIcDu1NFfZ0]U2 - Beautiful Day (Helsinki II 2010) -MULTICAM DRAFT- - YouTube[/ame] 0:07, 0:40, 3:48 = attack of the snowman 1:52 = annoying lines (tho they are thin here) ^^ The main rail videos used in this mix were recorded with a Lumix TZ 7 which doesn't have this sensor. Depending on light you have those problems. If you have this camera (all the Lumix are great, and I think the latest model might even have the sensor), you might try the settings posted in the description of this video to have a better image: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbUplfqX4E]PEARL JAM *NO WAY* PJ20 night 2 @ Alpine Valley 9/4/2011 HD - YouTube[/ame] If you plan to buy a digicam, I recommend, for example, the Sony Cybershot hx9v. I filmed this video with EV set to -1,7 I think: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_45zZAQIQ0]Coldplay - Us Against The World (2011-12-20 - Frankfurt) - YouTube[/ame] I like it a lot. The only bad thing is that the zoom sometimes "hops" and that it might lose the focus if it's rather dark. On a side note how an almost perfectly organized multicam effort can look like, have a look at this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiUz0MqeoE]U2 Anaheim june 18 2011 part 01 EBTTRT - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - YouTube[/ame] ^^ All the GA cameras except 3 (I think) were Sony Cybershot hx9v ones which also used the same video settings. The wide angle was a HD camcorder. The audio is an IEM-Audience matrix (the audio in the youtube video is not the final mix). What we did was sorta planning where'd we stand during the concert to have different camera positions and we agreed on some main focuses, eg the person who'd stand on Edge's side would focus on some guitar or face close ups so the person in the middle could take care of Bono or Larry ....stuff like this. When you compare this multicam to the Beautiful Day-multicam I posted above you can see the difference in video quality which is rather amazing. Such an organization kills the concert feeling of course. The people who filmed the whole concert really sacrificed the concert experience for as nice and as stable shots as possible so everybody who says "yes I'd like to help" should keep in mind that when you film, try to hold your camera still, shaky footage is no fun to look at except for a few seconds when it's approbiate for the video, so to speak ;). Btw (if you haven't heard about it yet) I'd like to inform you that there's a Coldplay Paris-Multicam in the works: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OvRhsZn-08]Coldplay - lost ! - Paris bercy 14 Decembre 2011 Multicam preview - YouTube[/ame] As far as I know this one was at least partly organized. The audio provided is an IEM-Audience mix or dub - as far as I know. --------------- If no one else wants to do it I'd raise my hand for editing a Munich multicam as I am planning to film it completely. Maybe also audio but as already said, I'm not sure about this yet coz the equipment is rather expensive - I just have a recording device but no IEM receiver nor microphone(s) as I just recently decided to make myself familiar with audio taping. If no good audio bootleg pops up we'd have to live with the audio of the camera. If you have questions regarding cams or settings I can offer some kind of advice based on my experiences. I also 1-2 cams left if someone doesnt have a cam but wants to film for the project ;).