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hey gingerag and jewl, welcome to this board! ive def been listening to coldplay more often now and im beginning to appreciate the running themes of restoring broken love relationships throughout their music. i suppose this is a pretty common topic for songwriters (i have heard that nobody is a good songwriter until they get their heart broken a few times- may be true ;) ) what i really appreciate about these guys tho is that they can take this well worn path and really create something brialliant and fresh- i saw them in concert about two months ago and they only played a few songs. the other bands that were there were mostly so distorted (guitars and otherwise) and had such meaningless lyrics that the whole night was almost a complete waste. however, when coldplay came on they played clocks, politik, in my place, yellow, and then finished off with the scientist. before her started the last song chris said something like "im going to do something very dangerous here- im going to play a ballad to finish up." everyone loved it and at the end he said "im glad you still dont have to use distortion to play rock and roll that people like". i thought this was def brilliant and true- he is not only holding on to a tradition being lost to mediocre bands like boxcar racer, audioslave, and kelly osbourne (all were there that night), but he, and the band, are defying the statement that it has "all been done"- they are taking it back to the start (no pun intended) and giving us a fresh look at love in all its forms, for whatever meaning we get out of it- whether it be love for our friends, siblings, partners, spouces, God, or ourselves. them playing "the scientist" before a crowd that mostly listened to "new rock" was one of the moments that most defined the band and its purpose for me. sorry that this was such a long post- i got inspired! peace

am i still allowed to post my fav top 5 bands? ill do it anyways :) jeff buckley ben harper radiohead- woo-ha! the beatles switchfoot merry christmas! happy hanakah (or however you spell it!) happy kwanzaa!

pleased to meet you :) my name is jon lopez- or as some people call me- "jlo"- i live right outside the city on long island. its a fun place to be but someday i would love to live in manhattan! if anything would be called "lovely"- in my mind it would be NYC.

well as i said- songs are mainly what you interpret them to be. i dont think the writer intended it to be about God either, but this is merely what i got from the song. i hope that there would be more replies about the meaning of this song- i know there is more out there than just love. not that love is not interesting, quite the contrary, but i believe there are still yet more interpretations to come out of this song

now what in the world would warrant another discussion group on the scientist when there is already one there? well firstly, i just want to get some attention :) secondly i think there is a certain principle at work in music which i just discovered when i listened to that song. it may sound simple- and it probably is- but i wonder if artists think much about the "recieved meaning" of a song that they write. with the scientist, i must confess i have never seen the video (which artists dont get a whole lot of say in past the general outline anyway), but i believe that the song lends itself to a pretty cool interpretation- and this is half the beauty of writing- what makes artists like the counting crows and colplay so good is that it is up to you (the listener) to find the meaning in the song. for me, the scientist is a song about a person (not unlike myself) who wrestles with science and faith. i believe the writer is speaking to God (not a girl) in the song and he is speaking from the voice of a scientist who is told by everything and everyone around him that there is no God, yet he is realizing that science (which many deem the final determining factor on knowledge) is not as objective as he had first made out- that it is in fact very subjective and subject to error and even unintentional manipulation. so- despite what science (and everything else) tells him he is willing to go on what he "feels"- that there is a God- and he wants to talk to Him about life and stuff. please give the song another listen and tell me what you guys think is the meaning- [email protected]