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Scott Michael Foster I just fell in love with him from the series "Greek" :dozey: :heart:

I'm not an expert on politics...I'm actually only 18...but Israel wants to control who is in charge in Gaza and in Palestine. they most diffidently had "Abbas" by the nick he was under their control...he doesn't do anything unless Israel approves which is really shameful and so most of the people doesn't want him in charge anymore...and he's not right now..his time is over...I don't know when they're planning to make the new elections but I'm almost sure that Hamas would be elected (and that's a proof that they DOES NOT use chilldren as human shields) and I dont knoe if Israel would stay still about that...I mean the first time they were elected Israel sieged Gaza and tried as much as they could to prevent them of be a legal government. which led them to what they call smuggle weapons(when I dont see why Israel that is using Internationally banned weapons are allowed to have them and have the right to defend itself...and that the US would give it even more!!!! while Hamas doesn't have the right to do so??) anyway back to the point...I don't really know what exactly should happen to stop this...but I know that war criminals should be put on trial. and that they should stop siege and open all the ways to Gaza and give them the life they deserve. but now it's too late really all the destruction and the 1000 people that have died and the 5000 that has been injured and others have no were to go...homes have been destroyed. even UN schools have been hit 3 times!!! and a UN building that had all the food and supplies have been destroyed completely!! WTF!! I'm really frustrated!! I think now the hatred is at it's maximum and that Palestinians wont be able to just get on with their lives...Israel couldn't have hoped for peace with all the destruction she made...If they killed all members of Hamas (hypothetically talking) I assure you hundreds just like them is going to be there to defend the right of Palestine!! and not just Palestinians...it's going to be from all over the Arab world and maybe other countries as well.

I have final exams so I dont have a lot of time to tell you the history of the 60 years...all I have to say is let's say that they should get on with their lives and not claim their land back...it's not even an option...and as I said before all the attempts of so called peace ended badly for Palestinians and for the interest of Israel...so yes they're frustrated. even the 3 hours that are supposed to be everyday...they did it for 2 days maybe to show the world that they do want peace and now they open fire on civilians on these 3 hours as soon as they put their feet out of the door!! and Israel dont seem interested in peace as well. one thing I want to make clear...most of Hamas's thoughts right now...it's the thoughts of -I can say-95% of Arabs and all Palestinians. Exactly...the numbers and articles that I posted up...logically show that Israel is doing a lot of criminal actions and very very wrong decisions and a country as powerful as Israel...couldn't have done them all by mistake...they mean to do these things...they tell million of lies and that alone shows that they're wrong...they're covering their crimes with lies that a little kid wont believe!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofgiqfCMyt4]YouTube - Praying in defiance of Israel's war in Gaza - 09 Jan 09[/ame] Reports of one journalist injured in northern Gaza, building was used by several news agencies and pan-Arab satellite channels. Red Cross prevented from accessing injured, starving survivors in Gaza http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10142.shtml Palestinian medics come under fire in Gaza http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/20091853249762874.html Israel 'shelled Gaza civilians' http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200919135323309745.html UN halts Gaza aid after convoy hit http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009181482839688.html All innocent mistakes??? I don't think so!!

I'm afraid I don't agree with you. Palestinians have been under war for almost 60 years now...a lot of people lost members of their family...others lost their houses and got no place to live...and many lost the place they work in...the land that is Israel now...had millions of Palestinian citizens that got departed to Palestine now...or other countries...and a lot of them couldn't find work. all that, the war...the siege...watching your children hungry and cold and not be able to do anything about it, and many other reasons cause the anger and violence that is being used. They learned over the years that nothing is going for their interest when they peacefully talk and try to make truces...so they go and use the other way. now about the other things you said...you say that this is going on in the middle east...but the other countries is fine...maybe now things started to be different because of what's happening in Gaza...it might cause some anger and violence...but before we were just fine. The United states have a very high rate of crime...but yet they are not sexually repressed or any of "the crap" that you think is going on here. it's actually the other way around...I mean the crimes that happens is because of the things that you do and we don't...high rates of divorce because husbands cheat on their wives cause they're not used to being with one partner...and that is one of the reasons that cause the children to do drugs and be morally corrupted...not to mention drinking that causes a lot of accidents and crimes. anyway that's a whole other subject...I just wanted to tell you that I don't think that is the problem.

green eye...If the little boy from the video is in danger and is being used as human shield...then dont you think that all the others around him would as well...I mean shouldn't they be runny or hiding? it's not clear to me that he was being used as human shield. sorry. that baby pic is silly: "According to BBC News the baby's grandfather, Redwan Abu Turki, said that the dressing of the infant baby as a bomber was from a rally at the university and that "the picture was taken just for the fun of it"" I know it's not that much fun. it's actually sick...but I said that they dont use them as human shields...the Idea of 14-17 year olds bombing themselves is not the same...not that it is right in any way.

708 dead and 3100 injured!!!:( UN: No fighters in targeted school http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/20091805410769377.html does the UN lie too?? no one believes us when we say that mosques are not being used as weapon shields...now this. Israel fires on UN Gaza convoy http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009181119551714.html Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5447590.ece

please when you say somthing dont just say it cause you heard it somewhere...this is not true they would never do anything like that...and if you have proof I'd be happy to see it. I know...I dont hate or disagree with all of you there...but I really think that you dont get the whole truth. actually everyday I realize more that the situation is very very complicated there is alot of lies too. but honestly I'm very much against your govermtent and the way the handle things. If this is true...they would say that they dont want them anymore now...but that's not what's happening...they still support them and still accept them as their leaders...and so does almost everyone in the arab world. I dont think you know this...because as I said before...the media makes sure you dont get these things...but there is a lot of palestiniens that are kept in Isrealin prisons some of them are politiclas and some are just citizins. not just one solider. everyday there is arrests all over palestine. I just want to remind you that one day they were a legetimate country...before Israel existed...and they were just fine...nobody complained about them. If you are sitting in your home with your family and you have a gun...and a group of people comes and closes all the doors of your house and ban you from getting out or getting anything in...soon your food and gas would run out...your kids are hungry and cold...they're dying slowly...you're talking to these people no one is listening...what do you do?? watch your family die?? or you use your gun although you know that they're too many and you cant beat them?? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4]YouTube - CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First[/ame]

this video has both sides opinions: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagL8Tt7XGM&feature=related]YouTube - Two differing perspectives on the Israeli offensive in Gaza that began on 27 December 2008[/ame]

I am going to stop giving you guys my opinion cause we're not getting anywhere...I'm just going to post facts and news. watch this video it has the opinion of both sides. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagL8Tt7XGM&feature=related]YouTube - Two differing perspectives on the Israeli offensive in Gaza that began on 27 December 2008[/ame]

they have been elected by the people of gaza...they lead them. my opinion: no. and if you consider them terrorists...then you should consider Israel terrorists too.

A doctor member of the first foreign medical volunteers allowed into Gaza following the Israeli attack on Gaza at the end of 2008 gives his opinions to Al Jazeera News. He notes that 40% of the injured victims are women and children, opining that they are, in fact, the targets of the attacks, which he calls cowardly. This was the second airing of this clip on the evening of New Year's eve 2008/09. It was shortened. The first airing of this doctor's statements ran about a minute longer and he stated that a large proportion of the injured were suffering from extreme burns that he presumed were caused by "new" bombs most commonly known (but definitely little-known) as Heavy Metal Tungsten Alloy (HMTA)weapons (http://tinyurl.com/72ovr5). He also mentioned that these bombs appear to be radioactive as well. As I write this, there are no Web references to these weapons being used in the current attacks, although there are claims of their use in attacks on Gaza and southern Lebanon in 2006. (http://tinyurl.com/94vauc) If these weapons are indeed radioactive, this feature might be due to the use of depleted uranium, a surprisingly common component of modern bombs. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4UH0F_S2o]YouTube - Al Jazeera clip - Gaza attacks 2008/09 - Norwegian doctor opines[/ame]

I did not...I said when they do smth like that I'll call them terrorists. and about the warnings...do you really think that it will make it ok to tell you to get out of your house before blowing it up??

A doctor member of the first foreign medical volunteers allowed into Gaza following the Israeli attack on Gaza at the end of 2008 gives his opinions to Al Jazeera News. He notes that 40% of the injured victims are women and children, opining that they are, in fact, the targets of the attacks, which he calls cowardly. This was the second airing of this clip on the evening of New Year's eve 2008/09. It was shortened. The first airing of this doctor's statements ran about a minute longer and he stated that a large proportion of the injured were suffering from extreme burns that he presumed were caused by "new" bombs most commonly known (but definitely little-known) as Heavy Metal Tungsten Alloy (HMTA)weapons (http://tinyurl.com/72ovr5). He also mentioned that these bombs appear to be radioactive as well. As I write this, there are no Web references to these weapons being used in the current attacks, although there are claims of their use in attacks on Gaza and southern Lebanon in 2006. (http://tinyurl.com/94vauc) If these weapons are indeed radioactive, this feature might be due to the use of depleted uranium, a surprisingly common component of modern bombs.

no I still don't think you get what I'm saying. would you tell me what you think should happen that will end this? I'd like to hear it...you might convince me. and when hundreds of lives are taken and other hundreds in danger I don't think it's a lot of bull shit. I don't want them killed I want them to stop!! just stop and not just the killing and the destruction...they should stop any kind of abuse...stop the siege...let the food and medical care in...when the people in Gaza have the life you and I have then it's going to be over...but I don't think Israel will ever give them that?? do you?? just as we speak the attacks are getting worse I've just seen on the TV a rocket that weighs a Ton and a half that have been fired to a completely civilian area.

mrcool you're not getting what I'm saying. If you look at what's going on...whenever they do smth they do it in return of smth that Israel is doing...Hamas is in charge of Gaza...they have been elected by the people. they do what they do to ensure that the people in Gaza have food and medical care...a decent life like all human beings deserve. when they do smth out of the blew and for no apparent reason then it's completely wrong and unacceptable. and notice that I'm not talking about all the terrorist groups...I'm just talking about Hamas and the current situation.

mrcool you're not getting what I'm saying. If you look at what's going on...whenever they do smth they do it in return of smth that Israel is doing...Hamas is in charge of Gaza...they have been elected by the people. they do what they do to ensure that the people in Gaza have food and medical care...a decent life like all human beings deserve. when they do smth out of the blew and for no apparent reason then it's completely wrong and unacceptable. and notice that I'm not talking about all the terrorist groups...I'm just talking about Hamas and the current situation.

It's so sad and upsetting and that's why we should do everything we can to stop it.

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They don't teach them to hate Jews...but when they see "Israel" killing people of their country and destroying their homes every day for years...do you expect them to like Israel?? and jews do hates us...not all of them but a lot of them and they do teach their children to hate all Arabs. maybe you dont know it but they do...they think they are better than us and that we're not worthy of the land of palestine. all the other things you said...I totally agree.

They don't teach them to hate Jews...but when they see "Israel" killing people of their country and destroying their homes every day for years...do you expect them to like Israel?? and jews do hates us...not all of them but a lot of them and they do teach their children to hate all Arabs. maybe you dont know it but they do...they think they are better than us and that we're not worthy of the land of palestine. all the other things you said...I totally agree.

when did I say that?? :thinking: not at all...no one should die. but Israel cant do these things and expect everything to be ok...they should all stop and live in peace not say that they're in peace when the people in Gaza are dying of hunger and freezing to death because they wont let anything get in to gaza. did you get my point now??

I respect all of the opinions...I'm simply going to express mine. Israel wants an excuse to start shooting on Gaza...so they put Gaza under siege. no food no fuel no medical care allowed to pass through to Gaza...someone from the Unrwa announced it. so do you really expect from Hamas to do nothing about it?? cause I dont. although their rockets is very poor and weak...but it does express that it's not ok for Israel to treat them like that. so when Israel got their excuse they started killing chlidren and civilians and destroying houses and mosques with no mercy. now about they US you ask why should they step in...well If they dont want to step in...they can at least step out and stop sending weapons and funding Israel with millions of dollars when they know that it's being used against every human right. can someone answer one question for me? when the US started war on Iraq...they said that the people of Iraq were persecuted by Sadam and that it was to free them and give them the life they deserve right? why did they step in then?? they step in when it is convenient for them not when it's right or wrong. I want to clear that I am talking about the goverments not the people...so no hard feeling for anyone.:)

do they have to admit it?? their actions says it out loud...and I don't think they're brave enough to admit anything. I'm not sure what you mean by that...but I can assure you that it's the Arab governments not all the nation. The people disagrees completely and are ready to do anything to stop this...but the governments barely allow them to talk about the subject. actually the Arabs are all in this together...Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and they've already started on Syria. It's most likely that the other countries are next. Let's be real...over the last 7 days almost 430 Palestinians died and 2200 have been injured, How many Israeli are dead?? and let's look at the sophisticated weapons and equipment they have. and the poor weapons that Palestinians have. It's against every law in the world and the human mind doesn't accept it.