For some amazing reason I- Heiner- am going to write on behalf of Gautama aka Valerie. ( for some amazing reason, Heiner's account should be closed too, he posted very embarrassing stuff, when he's had too much booze. Just saying. I'm not drunk now!)
Entonces, el manifesto:
In quoting Horrific, Valerie asked to get her account disabled, which Ian did, after being so kind as to ask her, if she really meant it, well she did. For some funky reason, she didn't get the "account disabled!" thing, and can still be contacted via pm, but as a matter of fact, she can't log in any longer. So now it looks as if she's still there, when she isn't.
Now she wanted it, but for some reason. To make annoying and rather complex things short, she prefers to not be member of a community, where some people get away with a lot of strange behaviour, whereas others, well, they were forced into retirement. Intelligent, funny and very YOUNG people they were. Well, Sara and Julie were!
Sara and Julie, as far as I got it, didn't want it, but got banned anyway, and they got all the way. Sara had discussed in a pretty civilized manner yesterday night. I think even good old Julie did so. Now with Sara, you chased off one of the most amazing personalities who I do admire for her integrity at such an early age. She contibutes with a lot of more or less silly polls :P and cleverly entertaining statements. There's something very uncomprehensible going on, non ( :P )?
Now to Nathan. This chap and the reactions towards him always reminded me of the following, which you Ian might want to think about.
I'm a passionate demonstrator, and one problem with big, emotionally loaded demonstrations is:
Those young hotspurs, fighting for a sensible cause, but messing things up by not being able to control their emotions yet. One example of one of the demos I've attended. There was a big Better.than.you.and.the.average.jew- deployment in Berlin, and police did seperate those sh**- heads from many many counter- demonstrators, who came in all ages and races and states of maturity. Up front of us counter- demonstrators were the hotspurs, and here we go, their frustration with this quirky, most difficult of democratic rules, that all shit- heads can make themselves heard, even when they demonstrate in thousands and chant creepy things, as long as they follow the rules.
So now the hotspurs start throwing stones, even Molotov- Cocktails at the police- men and insult them and all of a sudden, things go crazy.
So subsequently and sadly rightfully so, the police starts using those water- cannons, chasing the hotspurs AND subsequently all the timid- minded counter- demonstrators ( i was awfully pregnant for god's sake, there were old people in wheel- chairs, we ran and hid in doorways and stuff, it was crazy.)
Nathan is one of those hotspurs, imo. I can personally understand them, but they suck endlessly, they should use their rightful frustration in a more intelligent way, because all what happens in the end is, that they get all the blame for their overreaction, while the initial ursupators of all the outrage get away, laughing (smugly).
That's sad. And not entirely fair. Just to make things clear, I too think, that Nathan was being a major asshole at attacking Eric- Poo and Marmellata in the way he did. That was plain, mad shit.
But in comparison to other members of this board he answered utterly civilized, when I asked him about his cursing- compulsion via vm.
Whereas those other members of this board were being nothing but smug, condescending sickos, when asked about their issues via vm.
AND: Nathan is in his early 20's. Other members of this board are so much older.
Hm, think about that, will you Ian. You might have felt like those policemen. But there were no Molotov- Cocktails, over the top insults: yes, but no actual weapons.
And by putting focus on the hotspur, you helped out this board's apparently untouchable ubermensch, who thus got away with not answering one and the same question again: why isn't he willing to change his doings and miserable smugness?
Could you please have the courtesy to disable my Heiner- account too, and make the disablement visible for visitors for both my Heiner- and Gautama accounts. It's a wish, because the politics of your board are nauseating me. And I think I have the right, that people see that. And it's not a ridiculous cause, imo. People shouldn't get away with strange behaviour, if there are so many ( Lore, Ren, Tonsu, Glossal Fragster, Jules, Nathan, Sara, Julie, Paul, Alexa, Eglantine, Imke, William, Reilly and all those others, who i didn't mention, or who simply don't voice up.) who are heavily annoyed by that.
And please, those other members aren't nazis, but the unintelligent smugness reminds me quite a bit. And you Ian make him look like an untouchable Übermensch, that's why i actually laughed out in amusement, when Nathan called his last thread: is Blaaah fellating you? You know, from the outside, it had something to it. :)