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a gaseous star...full of helium and hydrogen! :idea2: :lol: :lol:

ermm....i already even wrote about it...some woman in Wichita... :rolleyes:

:stunned: i guess everyone in here is too lazy to read that long!

thanks, liquid girlie! :D

I'm dumbfounded by such blind faith...an idol worship, of Bush by so many Americans. :stunned: :confused:

apparently nobody found this funny! :dozey:

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certainly, Weedy would agree with George Carlin about how 'men' (and not women) like to fight wars! :sneaky: :lol:

Jose Maria Aznar! i never saw a guy having 'Maria' as middle name before! :lol:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=104&contentid=554&page=1 Rockets and Penises in the Persian Gulf George Carlin History Lesson - I'd like to talk a little about that 'war' we had in the Persian Gulf. Remember that? The big war in the Persian Gulf? Lemme tell you what was goin' on. Naturally, you can forget all that entertaining fiction about having to defend the model democracy those lucky Kuwaitis get to live under. And for the moment you can also put aside the very real, periodic need Americans have for testing their new weapons on human flesh. And also, just for the fun of it, let's ignore George Bush Sr.'s obligation to protect the oil interests of his family and friends. There was another, much more important, consideration at work. Here's what really happened. Dropping a Load for Uncle Sam. The simple fact is that America was long overdue to drop high explosives on helpless civilians; people who have no argument with us whatsoever. After all, it had been awhile, and the hunger gnaws. Remember that's our specialty: picking on countries that have marginally effective air forces. Yugoslavia is another, more recent example. Surfing Unnecessary But all that aside, let me tell you what I liked about that Gulf War: it was the first war that appeared on every television channel, including cable. And even though the TV show consisted largely of Pentagon war criminals displaying maps and charts, it got very good ratings. And that makes sense, because we like war. We're a warlike people. We can't stand not to be fucking with someone. We couldn't wait for the Cold War to end so we could climb into the big Arab sandbox and play with our nice new toys. We enjoy war. And one reason we enjoy it is that we're good at it. You know why we're good at it? Because we get alot of practice. This country is only 200 years old, and already we've had ten major wars. We average a major war every twenty years, So we're good at it! And it's just as well we are, because we're not very good at anything else. Can't build a decent car anymore. Can't make a TV set, a cell phone, or a VCR. Got no steel industry left. No textiles. Can't educate our young people. Can't get health care to our old people. But we can bomb the shit outta your country, all right. We can bomb the shit outta your country! If You're Brown, You're Goin Down Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh, we like that, don't we? That's our hobby now. But it's also our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya. You got some brown people in your country? Tell 'em to watch the fuck out, or we'll goddamn bomb them! Well, who were the last white people you can remember that we bombed? In fact, can you remember any white people we ever bombed? The Germans! That's it! Those are the only ones. And that was only because they were tryin' to cut in on our action. They wanted to dominate the world. Bullshit! That's our job. That's our fuckin' job. But the Germans are ancient history. These days, we only bomb brown people. And not because they're cutting in our action; we do it because they're brown. Even those Serbs we bombed in Yugoslavia aren't really white, are they? Naaah! They're sort of down near the swarthy end of the white spectrum. Just brown enough to bomb. I'm still waiting for the day we bomb the English. People who really deserve it. A Disobediant American Now you folks might've noticed, I don't feel about that Gulf War the way we were instructed to feel about it by the United States government. My mind doesn't work that way. You see, I've got this real moron thing I do, it's called 'Thinking'. And I guess I'm not a very good American, because I like to form my own opinions; I don't just roll over when I'm told. Most Americans roll over on command. Not me, There are certain rules I observe. Believe You Me My first rule: Never believe what anyone in authority says. None of them. Government, Police, clergy, the corporate criminals. None of them. And neither do I believe anything I'm told by the media, who, in the case of the Gulf War, functioned as little more than unpaid employees of the Defense Department, and who, most of the time, operate as unofficial public relations agency for the government and industry. I don't believe in any of them. And I have to tell you, folks, I don't really believe very much in my country either. I don't get all choked up about yellow ribbons and American flags. I see them as symbols, and I leave them to the symbol-minded. Show us your Dick I also look at war itself a little differently from most. I see it largely as an exercise in dick-waving. That's really all it is: alot of men standing around in a field waving their dicks at one another. Men, insecure abuot the size of their penises, choose to kill one another. That's also what all that moron athlete bullshit is all about, and what that macho, male posturing and strutting around in bars and locker rooms represents. It's called 'dick fear.' Men are terrified that their dicks are inadequate, and so they have to 'compete' in order to feel better about themselves. And since war is the ultimate competition, essentially men are killing one another in order to improve their genital self-esteem. You needn't be a historian or a political scientist to see the Bigger Dick Foreign Policy Theory at work. It goes like this: 'What? They have bigger dicks? Bomb them!' And of course, the bombs, the rockets, and the bullets are all shaped like penises. Phallic weapons. There's an unconscious need to project the national penis into the affairs of others. It's called 'fucking with people' Show us your Bush So as far as I'm concerned, that whole thing in the Persian Gulf was nothing more than one big dick-waving cockfight. In this particular case, Saddam Hussein questioned the size of George Bush's dick. And George Bush had been called a wimp for so long, he apparently felt the need to act out his manhood fantasies by sending America's white children to kill other people's brown children. Clearly the worst kind of wimp. Even his name, 'Bush', as slang, is related to the genitals without being the genitals. A bush is sort of a passive, secondary sex characteristic. It's even used as a slang term for women: 'Hey, pal, how's the bush in this area?' I can't help thinking, if this president's name had been George Boner...well, he might have felt a little better about himself, and he wouldn't have had to kill all those children. Too bad he couldn't locate his manhood. Premature Extraction Actually, when you think about it, this country has had a manhood problem for some time. You can tell the language we use; language always gives us away. What did we do wrong in Vietnam? We 'pulled out'! Not a very manly thing to do. No. When you're fucking people, you're supposed to stay with it and fuck them good; fuck them to death; hang in there and keep fucking them until they're all fucking dead. But in Vietnam what happened was by accident we left a few women and children alive, and we haven't felt good about ourselves since. That's why in the Persian Gulf, George Bush had to say, 'This will not be another Vietnam.' He actually said, 'this time we're going all the way.' Imagine. An American president using the sexual slang of a thirteen-year-old to describe his foreign policy. And, of course, when it got right down to it, he didn't 'go all the way.' Faced with going into Baghdad he punked out. No balls. Just Bush. Instead, he applied sanctions, so he'd be sure that an extra half a million brown children would die. And so his oil buddies could continue to fill their pockets. If you want to know what happened in the Persian Gulf, just remember the first names of the two men who ran that war: Dick Cheney and Colin Powell. Dick and Colon. Someone got fucked in the ass. And those brown people better make sure they keep their pants on, because Dick and Colin have come back for an encore.

this monologue just came-up on my yahoo launchcast radio, so i thot may be someone, somewhere, wrote it all down. i was right! just one search on google came up with a 'load' of this...enjoy! but beware, it's really really Rated-R, NOT FOR CHILDREN! if you get offended by explicit sexual words, you should not read further! (although i've seen Ian use the f-word in here a lot! lol) and others use it too....but i'm just doing a cut-and-paste job below...

i've not read substantial pieces on this yet, partly perhaps, 'cuz the program is quite new. but i have seen it on tv...on "NOW with Bill Moyers" on PBS, and it wasn't nice. :dozey:

his beliefs are hurting those who don't want to be forced to attend a church before they can get help from a faith-based organization--which gets funded from tax-payer money. it is almost forced proselytization, and unless it doesn't concern you, you would be blind to it, or in fact even encourage it. the foreign policy...the less the said, the better....it's in tatters :stunned: i can't see how, for example, bush can be chummy with the pakistani military dictator while scold india about its democracy! :rolleyes:

he has set up an office of 'religious feedom' or some such title that tracks persecution of christians in other countries, but that doesn't say a word about persecution of followers of other religions, or of persecution commited by christians against others. he only says he's a 'uniter, not a divider', where as almost all his actions divide people. it is unfortunate that he got to be president though gore won the popular vote. :/

punks, Bush is the one who started the Faith-based Initiative, where he doles out tax-payer money to Christian organizations for services that are normally conducted by secular NGOs. that's just one example of how Bush is bringing his personal beliefs to government. another is this State department annual report, an example of which is reproduced above. These annual state dept. reports didn't talk about 'christian persecution' or any such things until Bush came to power. It's alienating American allies because frankly, this is considered external interference in a country's internal matter. No wonder India didn't send any troops to Iraq this time around.

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Bush is only a temporary president...at most 4 more years. constitution is a living document. he can't be allowed to tweak it in such ways.

punks, if you follow demographic changes, you would know to be prepared for ever-increasing diversity among Americans :) America will be where India is now, in terms of diversity, in a few more decades. Then we shall see how American democracy works :/ :stunned:

Indian democracy long-standing but flawed: US Press Trust of India Washington, February 26: The US has said that the democracy in India is long-standing but flawed with allegations of corruption influencing court decisions, violence in some elections and restrictions on religious and academic freedom. The US state department, in its annual report released on Wednesday, said tension between Hindus on the one hand and Muslims and Christians on the other remained a challenge to India's secular formation. The leading party in the government coalition, the report noted, is the BJP, a Hindu nationalist political party with links to Hindu extremist groups that were implicated in violent acts against Christians and Muslims. However, it added, the BJP is an independent political party and the degree of RSS influence over its policy-making was not clear. Among India's shortcomings, the report listed violence in some of the elections; allegations that corruption influenced court decisions; police atrocities; atrocities by both government forces and militants, including foreign militants, in Kashmir and elsewhere and restrictions on religious and academic freedom. In 71 closely typed pages, the report alleged that it was reported that members of the BJP, the RSS and other affiliated organisations "harassed and at times threatened the use of violence against Christians and Muslims." "The BJP and RSS officially expressed respect and tolerance for other religions. However, the RSS in particular opposes conversions from Hinduism and believes that all citizens should adhere to Hindu cultural values. The BJP officially agrees that the caste system should be eliminated, but many of its members are ambivalent about this," the report said. "Tension between Muslims and Hindus, and between Hindus and Christians," the report said, "continued to pose a challenge to the secular foundation of the state." It said Hindus had also been victims of violence and referred to the bomb attacks in Mumbai and Navi Mumbai last August in which 44 people were killed. hah! this coming from a Christian fundamentalist-influenced republican government! perhaps India should come out with a report on how the U.S. democracy, though long-standing, is flawed, and is in ever-present danger to turning into a christian fundamentalist theocracy! :rolleyes:

see..that's why the confederation didn't last long! :D and yep, religion is indeed controversial...even now. and now at least, not insignificant numbers of citizens are against the government having to do anything with religion...so...

i liked Jim Carrey in 'Man on the Moon' too...i thought he should have won the Oscar for that performance...too bad the Academy doesn't give two hoots about comedic performance. but he did get nominated for the golden globes this time, right? :huh: wonder if he won!

well, 'God' isn't a copyrighted word of Jews and Christians. Nor is 'God' an invention belonging only to Jews and Christians. 'God' belongs to all religions. the pledge of allegiance is not even 100 years old, and the same goes for the money. these things were added during the McCathy anti-communism era, if i'm not mistaken. and they certainly aren't in the Constitution, as you say. now you can say that for the founders at least, 'God' meant a Judeo-Christian god, but still, as you say, they were wise enough to not stamp their personal religious views on the constitution. thus, the constitution can't be said to have a judeo-christian basis.

sorry, my text sig sucks...i don't know all that jazzy stuff :embarrased:

but...but she is!! :idea2: :)

oh yeah! i enjoyed it very much! :D