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nope, it's not explicit about it...that's why the debate :D it all depends on one's viewpoint and one's interpretation of the founding values, and whether in fact such founding values can/should change over time. afterall, it doesn't say there that slavery is illegal or legal...it just says all men are equal in the eyes of the law...it was men of that time who construed that blacks were not humans! or if they were, then they were only 3/5ths human (a slave man counted for 3/5ths of a vote...).

i've heard many people say this. could you enlighten me on this issue, for i don't know of any single example that can illustrate such a 'christian values' founding. as of now, i am more of the opinion that if at all, this country was founded by people who were deeply religious...i will accept that. but what's so special about a judeo-christian ethic that's not the same in some other religions? i can learn something here :)

i doubt you would want to live the way the first colonials lived! :lol: and in fact, i doubt you would want to live in a country strictly run by christian principles....it would be quite boring, to say the least! :dozey: :D but that's side-tracking a bit. what matters is what is in the constitution. and there, it's clear that the founders wanted a total separation of church/state.

I saw Bruce Almighty a few days ago!....i loved it!! :)

'cuz she's an angel! :wink3:

U.S. is not "based" on Christian values, just as India is not "based" on Hindu values, even though the population of believers in each country is approximately the same. but both these countries are multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and secular, "secular" being the driving word! you can say U.S. has a Christian ethos, and obviously it does. but it's not a christian land...in fact, the ways some other religions are spreading in here, i doubt it will remain christian in 50 more years.... :/ :confused:

:lol: i'm in dallas...

oh...u still go there? i stopped going...didn't feel i was welcome anymore, and plus the IP problem was just getting on my nerves! i miss elfie and misty and a few other folks, though. but they know my email addy...they can write me if/when they wish.... :confused: :/

interview with God! :sneaky:

those innocent Kansans! :lol:

i think it's 'rubbish' to bring one's personal religious beliefs to one's place of work, specially when one is running the entire country's business. i'm not saying anything bad about christianity or christian teachings. sorry for the confusion.

you're in Greenbow, Alabama? :wink3: :lol:

this is what is wrong with today's evangelical/born-again christians. they want to foist their worldview upon everyone else. i'm a fundamentalist Hindu, but I don't go tell others what God supposedly wants or doesn't want. if you're christian, then just order your life around your ideas of perfection...but that shouldn't allow you to drive a whole country's government business on your personal religious views, should it? if bush feels so nice about being a christian, he should do so in his personal life, not when he's running the White House...that's all i'm saying. I'm not gay, I don't have any friends that are gay, nor any family members. But I still feel empathy for them, and if the U.S. says that it is the land of the free and land of equality, then all its laws should be equal to everyone.

lol...really? i wish :) they have the best accents....i am stuck with a stupid southern accent :) some people like southern belle accent! :sneaky: :D you're in Houston? i doubt Houston would have gotten snow...dallas didn't have any, though only 50-100 miles west of dallas had about 3 inches of snow yesterday

:huh: quit what? write to whom? tell tell tell!! :/ :wink3:

ummm...you don't know how the complex human biology and psychology works, okay! and what is your point anyways? even if it's their choice, what do you have against it? and actually...do you have any choice as to who you feel attracted to?? :rolleyes: i can tell you that for me, i can't tell my mind to feel attracted to only a certain subset of girls...no matter what my society has to say about that! :embarrased: :( you don't know what all these people go through in their lives for having a mind that gets them attracted to fellow men or fellow women, on top of the fact that society tries to snub them.... just think about it...u get peer pressure even for how u are supposed to dress and look. imagine what these people must be going thru when their mind tells them they feel attracted to a guy (or a girl) while the whole society around them tells them to feel attracted to the opposite sex. it can't be fun! just try to think from their viewpoint...and have some empathy instead of mouthing out some rubbish written down 2000 years ago....

huh? :huh: whatcha trying to hint about, jessy? :P

oh okay!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=679&ncid=742&e=1&u=/usatoday/20040226/cm_usatoday/amendmentiswrongwaytoresolvesocialcontroversy Amendment is wrong way to resolve social controversy (a USA Today op-ed piece)

oh..i didn't mean it to be weird or anything :embarrased: :rolleyes:

oh nevermind...i found that out myself...it's on the first page of yahoo news... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=762&e=1&u=/nm/20040226/en_nm/leisure_passion_dc "In Wichita, Kansas, one middle-aged woman died of an apparent heart attack while watching the film's climactic crucifixion scene, a local television station reported."

heyyyyy! i sent u some luck vibes too earlier.... :P

cool...sounds like fun at the office! :wink3: :D

thanks m8! ;) :D

neither am i... :dozey: though i can talk and talk...drink and drink...have a good time...i dunno what's wrong with my 'singles scene'! :lol: anyways...who's t he interview with?