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if only I was actually on Coldplaying often enough...:sneaky:

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she still has the highest number of posts on CP, though :P yesss or superperson maybe

19:27 (I use military time, deal with it :cool:) :lol:

YES CEL I REMEMBER IF ONLY WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT AGAIN also I hit 17000 a minute ago whoops

^^ Nope, I kid you not, that actually happened. I can believe that people are posting that quickly now, too. :P

crestammi is the best okay :snobby:

Oh, trust me, I'm not surprised by it (last year, during holiday break...oh god. There were literally three posts every minute FOR AN HOUR) xD

...Jesus, was this made TODAY? :wtf: how does this have more than 200 replies I don't even

Jesus, you two need to divorce. I don't care if you "don't want to," witnessing it isn't good for any of us. EDIT: and this was my 17000 post wow

I don't really know how to explain it differently. :shrug: (if someone could tell me what I keep repeating, that would be awesome)

hahahahahaha I'm sorry, Molly, but I have to agree with Laurel at this point. :P Tim is a better pianist, IMO. ...and before you say anything, I like Coldplay slightly more than I like Keane.

Look at the first page [this is from the scrapbook project by the way]. :P

I'm just going to take a guess (which will probably be completely wrong, knowing my track record) that by others who have 'felt similar,' you mean people who don't really feel like a man/woman/*insert other gender assigned at birth here*. While this is completely true, I use it more in a way that I don't just not "feel" feminine/like a female, but I also am somewhat uncomfortable with being called as such. (note: Dee, if I'm saying anything that happens to be incorrect below, please correct me) I'm going to use Dee's example here: she doesn't always seem particularly "female" and/or "looks masculine" to other people, but she doesn't want to be identified as a boy/male. She is sometimes hurt by it, but not at other times (i think i might be wrong). This is -kind of- how I feel about the whole thing: I don't always seem particularly "female" and/or "appears masculine" to other people, but I don't want to be identified as a boy - but, when I do appear "female," I don't want to be identified as a girl either. Basically, both being identified as "female" and being identified as "male" by other people are equally uncomfortable for me at times (whereas, at other times, this "gendering" doesn't bother me at all. but it generally does bother me at least a little, whether or not people are intentionally doing it) ...and as far as I know, most people who don't exactly feel "close" to the gender that they were assigned at birth frequently feel uncomfortable as that gender. i don't even know any more also I only have two (/three if you want to count Taameen as an IRL friend because I met her in real life) friends so it isn't very much of an issue in that respect

*Feminine or masculine Basically, how I "present" [god I hate using that word but I don't know how else to explain it otherwise] my (neutral/lack of) gender has nothing to do with my gender identity. I'll wear anything as long as its comfortable. I think what I was trying to say is this: let's say that most pieces of "feminine" clothing were physically comfortable for me to wear, and unisex/ungendered ("ungendered" by society as a whole, I mean; clothes don't have genders anyway, so I'm really talking about what most people think of as "male" and "female" clothes) and "masculine" pieces of clothing generally weren't; then I would probably wear "feminine" clothes most of the time. If the reverse were true - that most pieces of "masculine" clothing were physically comfortable for me to wear, and "feminine" and unisex/ungendered clothing was not, then I would probably wear mostly "masculine" clothing. Taking the above scenario, most pieces of ungendered/unisex clothing are physically comfortable for me to wear, and "female" clothes aren't generally so physically comfortable. (for whatever reason, most clothing that is considered unisex was "originally masculine," but now I'm just confusing myself more so I'll stop here) i'm still not making sense am I

I still love you Tammi :heart:

If I seem to be blowing this out of proportion, again, I apologize. A lot of the people responding to this thread just appear to be ignoring what I'm saying over and over again - if they're not, then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Well, I'm trying not to overthink it or worry about it all that much, but it's a little difficult to do that with the topic being brought up by others again, am I right? Believe me, I don't even completely understand gender. Heck, nobody really does. I'm just trying to explain how I feel, and if that involves repeating the same/similar things over and over/'shoving things down their throats,' so be it. I don't want to do that, but if I feel like people aren't trying to understand, then that's probably what I'll end up doing, purposefully or not. Oh, I completely agree that there are more important things in life than worrying about gender. I'm only talking about it now because Crestammi bumped the topic, actually (love you Tammi :kiss:); if the thread hadn't been bumped, I wouldn't have bumped it myself. I'm actually kind of sick of talking about this, to be perfectly honest. :P ~everyone can return to their lives now~

Whoops, I didn't read his [?] original statement very thoroughly. That's entirely my fault. (although I'd just like to say that very few people actually do classify gender identities are classified like diseases; I'm not saying that Prospector was doing that, he probably wasn't; I just misread his comment) Well, my parents were telling me for a while that there was no point to my self-identification as neutrois and asexual, so yes, I have. :| However, to me - and I may be completely wrong here, so bear with me - Prospector seems to be saying that it's pointless for me to classify myself, which is not entirely true. There is a point to doing so. I know that not everyone here wants to take my rights away - I doubt that anyone in this thread does, to be honest. To make it clear, the only thing that I'm even slightly bothered by is the fact that some people seem to be doubting my ability to classify/label myself, or don't want me to for one reason or another. Classifying myself helps me understand who I am. Other people may not need those labels, and that's great, but I need them, and that's really what I think matters here. Again, I could be completely wrong, but this is what I'm seeing. --- *cough* wrong pronouns *cough* (random side note: xe and hir are part of the same pronoun set, as far as I'm aware of; I don't use them, though, so I'm not 100% sure about that) Believe me, this isn't a cry for attention. Originally, the point to this thread was to ask how I should come out to my parents (which I actually have done, by the way), and that's all. Now I'm just trying to explain my point/how I feel. I don't like being the center of attention most of the time - and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable as the center of attention now, to be honest. I want as much respect as the next person; no more, no less [although more would be absolutely fine with me :P but I don't care if I get more or not]. Sure, this involves using the right pronouns/terms (terms being sibling/sib instead of sister, child instead of daughter, etc.), but that's really it. I want to change society in that I want trans*/genderqueer people to be able to be treated with the same respect as a cisgendered (for anyone who doesn't know: someone who is comfortable with one's assigned gender) person. That's all. i don't even know how to explain myself anymore

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Crestammi, you said a few of the things that I was trying to say :cheesy: *prepare for a giant wall of text* Okay, to begin with, my age has nothing to do with my gender identity. Heck, there are kids that already know that they're transgendered [granted, from what I've seen, it's mostly been female to male, but the idea still holds] when they're five years old. If they can know, then why can't I? As for the "she"/"her" pronoun usage, when people I don't know well/at all use it to describe me, I'm not generally upset most of the time, simply because I'm quite aware of the fact that nearly every single person has absolutely no idea that there are genders that are not male or female (not to mention that people assume your gender based on your body structure ._.). However, at home, where I've specifically told my parents and close friends to address me a certain way? Now that is what bothers me. They [my parents, my half brothers, and my three friends] are quite aware of my entire gender situation. All of them are used to calling me "she," and they do mess up sometimes, but they really are trying to use the right pronouns/gender neutral terminology. (well, my dad isn't even making an effort to do anything, which is really starting to bother me) I care about genders in the fact that people should be allowed to identify however they want to. If random people on the street think I'm a girl (or a guy), so be it - I'm not going to be mad at someone just because they aren't aware of the complexity of gender. However, the fact that other people are basically identifying my gender for me - and for thousands of other people who don't fit in the gender binary - is immensely irritating. Clothes have nothing to do with gender identity. *points to my answer to Kat's post* ...that's exactly what I'm doing. :| For the most part, I dress the way I do because it's what I'm [physically] comfortable wearing. PEOPLE ARE COMPLICATED AND SPECIFIC. I'm sorry, I felt the need to yell this in order to make a point. (Also, I'm just saying, describing a gender identification as a disease is, frankly, extraordinarily rude - gender is not a disease, it is part of what makes you who you are.) The classifications only matter because they matter to me - they are part of my personal identity. If I told you that you couldn't classify yourself as a Coldplay/*insert other band here* fan, no matter what, how would you feel about that? (I have no idea what your gender/sexual identity is, so I 'm just using this as an absolutely terrible example of what it's like to be specifically prevented from using the classifications that I want to). EDIT: but if gender didn't matter so much to everyone, then maybe I wouldn't have the problem of trying to explain it to everyone /wall of text mostly over The thing is, it's not really about the clothes I wear - it's about how I feel internally. I've never really "felt" like I was a girl/woman, but I definitely didn't "feel" like a boy/man either (and don't ask me how I can possibly feel that I'm not a gender because I have absolutely no idea either, I just do). I just didn't have a word for that idea for a really long time. [Heck, if "female" clothes were actually physically comfortable for me to wear, then I probably would wear them more often - the same applies for "masculine" clothes]