Prince Myshkin

i cannot remember. the pub has a disco night but it's just a guy who plays music too loud and ruins everything. when was the last time you killed (not necessarily a human)?

not even with my ego tnp is good at spelling (in their own language)

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to me that is far more depressing than the realisation of the meaninglessness of life. that is a lack of control, what is the point if god has it all figured out? if i believed in this i would be more inclined to kill myself than if i was a nihilist. why do you know that everything happens for a reason? (once again i'm not saying this is fact, just saying what i think like you are) that seems like a disclaimer for people who have a bad life and don't want to take charge of it or allow people to persecute them (which is what a lot of organised religion has been used for). invisible man in the sky has it sorted so no matter how crap things get don't worry there's eternal life waiting for you, unless you're bad so shut up and do as we say.

just because life has no purpose doesn't mean you can't do things that will make you happy and you have to give up, there is just a self awareness. things don't need a purpose, things can just be.

man it's hard to go to sleep in the middle of debating philosophy but i really should here's my second attempt. gnight

i think you are confusing nihilism with giving up it is far from it it is seen more as a self actualisation, acceptance and understanding which once conquered can improve your motivation to achieve things. it doesn't kill passion and you are still the same person.

good night

i'm wasted and i'm going to bed i hope what i said made a little sense whatever sense is

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who told you this? there is no proof of god there is no proof of no god why is he completely supernatural? why do you need faith? how does god help those who help themselves and why do they need helping if they have already helped themselves? that sounds like people giving credit to god when they have achieved something themselves. people don't give themselves enough credit. a god makes things easier to explain things

life matters when you are living it but there will come a time when you aren't doing, and then it won't matter. people get too caught up in life, the social stigmas that stop them doing what they want. life in itself has become something programmed into us. we have endless possibilities yet are bound by ties forced upon us on arrival. restrictions are apparent as soon as we are out the womb. we become a citizen (a citizen of what we have no choice in - the world isn't land it is territory - and you are born in territory where rules are implemented on you from day one, even though you have no choice or care in the matter). we are told what to do (generally speaking). it is a tragedy to an extent, but at the end of the days we seek the things that make us happy (or at least we should do).

i believe in the concept of love, which are certain things being released in my brain, and i aim towards feeling it as much as possibe as it is the greatest force i have ever felt within me. faith is one of the most disgusting things mankind has come up against. it has held him back so so much and we would be better off without it. the enlightenment happened for a reason, yet still people take the easy route out and believe in the invisible man who'll look after them because they are too scared to admit they really don't know. it's all about ideals, and people like an ideology. uncertainty is frowned upon by the masses. they like to think they have the answer.

because i live my life. just because things don't matter doesn't mean you don't have the choice to play along. ultimately it will mean nothing, and in truth it doesn't mean anything at the time, but there are feelings you feel because of reactions in your brain, and you just gotta roll with them. you don't need morals to stop you killing a person. self awareness and self satisfaction can do that. i'm happy to be at the place i am right now, even though many would view it as a morbid position. i certainly never said happiness should be avoided. or even sadness. raw emotion in it's purity is a valuable thing.

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personally i believe that i don't know much at all, and what i know is all based purely on my environment and the social factors which influence me. there could be a god, there could not be a god, i don't care. i certainly don't believe in an organised religion. the ridiculous amount of control used by them disgusts me. the personification of god also does it too, but i guess it is a human trait to do this so as to think they can understand things, but can you honestly take a human being and compare them to something capable of creating the universe? even if there was a greater knowledge i personally doubt humans would not be able to understand it, we are simply the next great design which had charge of the earth and there will be many different forms to follow us. nobody can say anything and it be fact. everything is contextual. religions evolve, peoples opinions evolve and in a few generations time we will be viewed as fools on a general level for some of the things we have said and followed. there is no such thing as fact or truth. as for the afterlife i do not believe but i obviously cannot rule it out. i am almost certain it isn't like the way christians portray it however as the puppet strings of control are far too obviously seen in that setup. in a more abstract way it could be possible, but like i said i don't care :)

yeah, i'm now sad irl because of it

to an extent, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. the people in question are simply made up of matter themselves and they will die and that will be that. if my mother was killed it would be the worst thing imaginable however if i died that would be that and nothing will have mattered because it will all have gone. it will just be another thing that will have happened. it all revolves around death and is there anything other than love that is worth living for truly? and love dies with you. i'm pretty tired, may head to bed

but why do you matter or me or anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

why do things matter?

to be fair nothing matters but i accept your point

it's sci-fi but ironic which makes it worse than sci-fi and sci-fi is shit

true, but things affect people in different ways and people have different breaking points so technically it's all relative. things could indeed be worse but that doesn't mean you wouldn't act to a ridiculous extreme in less serious circumstances.

considering the guys i've met i don't blame him

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