Prince Myshkin

I have lots of toilet roll

It is possible to have one final prize draw and prize if people are interested. Food or book as usual. Edit: Although due to a change in my eating/buying habits since I last posted in here, any food has to be vegan.

Sorry this thread stopped.

I have nothing but regrets

But then out of everybody, why Coldplay? And if you feel like that for one then do you not feel as though you could be missing out on that with at least one other?

I didn't even know I was agender when this thread came about haha. Now my girlfriend and close friends know. Haven't told my parents as it's just a load of hassle. It's not that they would disbelieve or thing badly of me, I just can't be bothered and I'd be embarrassed and I've found it quite inconsequential when it comes to my relationship with other people. It's not something anybody has worked out and whilst it may have shaped me, it's not something I feel I need to share in order to support others, like I share my feminism. In a way I'd like to tell my parents but I don't think it'd bring me any closer to them and could only serve to confuse them, when really it wouldn't change anything of my relationship with them. It'll go along with my drug use which is something I won't properly share with them as it wouldn't be properly understood.

Would you say then that you transpose your own meaning onto the songs rather than taking it as an artists piece of music? So if a paedophile sang a love song would you be able to ignore that idea? Remember, no wrong answers or judgement, just curious.

OK, so after the passing of Bowie (an artist whose work I adore) it got me thinking of exactly what aspects of an artists personality you are willing to let slide whilst listening to a song or body of work. It's something I've contemplated for a few years after what happened with Lost Prophets and seeing some of the fans reactions to the news of what Ian Watkins had done. I wondered whether I would still be able to listen to music that had meant so much to me if the lead singer of a band I really loved turned out to be a paedophile. Would I be able to block that out and still appreciate the music for what it was or whether it would be tainted? I wondered whether it depended on the music that was being made. Say it was a very intimate performer or lyricist; that would be a hell of a lot more difficult to block out than an electronica band without vocals. Or would it be? Would I want it to be? More recently I've become more aware that I listen to music by artists that others would find questionable. If I was very religious how would I justify listening to music by drug users? If I was a climate change denier would I be able to listen to music made by those with such a conscience and who create music that surrounds that idea? Even more recently I've become aware that I often listen to music by people who I find questionable: Jimi Hendrix beat his girlfriends One member of Queens of the Stone Age did the same until he was kicked out for it A member of the Rolling Stones married an 18 year old whom he had been in a relationship since she was aged 13 and whom she claims had sex with him at 14 years of age David Bowie was purported to have had sex with an underage groupie who was passed around the top artists back in the day and who was allegedly abducted and threatened by Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin Aphex Twin is a 9/11 truther Beck is a Scientologist and Mick Ronson of David Bowie is a Mormon - this does not bother me now but there was a time when I was quite anti-theist, and whilst I would have continued to listen to their music I think it would have changed the way I would have listened to it had I know during that period of my life Maureen Tucker, drummer of The Velvet Underground is a Tea Party supporter Then there is music I don't particularly like the works of but have certain songs I can appreciate: Michael Jackson gets plenty of airtime and is respected but charge sheets show that he at the very least showed pornography to minors. He claimed it was because he was friends with them and he had done wrong. This is the very least of his wrong doing Cee Lo Green of Gnarls Barkley admitted on his Twitter that he had sex with a woman who could not consent but that it wasn't rape because he wore a condom Are there any artists you listen to that have questionable histories and how does it affect the way you approach their work? It does not have to be completely about music. Charlton Heston is huge with the NRA, Roman Polanski admitted to sodomising a drunk underage girl and refuses to reenter the US as he will be arrested, many sports stars have been guilty of all sorts of crimes. How does this affect the way you watch them or how you view the teams they play for? I'm just interested in where people draw the line, where and why they might let some get away with others. I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong to do so, simply interested in the way that art can shape that opinion.

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/02/07/us-florida-bill-would-make-it-illegal-for-transgender-people-to-use-public-toilets/ US: Florida bill would make it illegal for transgender people to use public toilets

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A place to recommend or request documentary suggestions. I really enjoyed The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein recently. She has also written a book on the same topic which I have just started. It is about our model of capitalism and the way that it feeds off disasters (natural disasters, economic disasters and man made disasters such as war) and uses these to further widen the gap between the rich and the poor by taking advantage of these periods of uncertainty in order to crush any form of social mobilisation. It can be found online to stream for free but I won't link here as I'm sure the rules don't allow it. I want to watch the documentary on Edward Snowden and hope to go and watch a screening of it this year but it seems pretty difficult to get to and I'm quite sure it isn't up online yet.

Now onto The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein

http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/lies-to-stop-teaching-girls/ This site is decent.

You can find it many ways. I had to listen before committing to buying, so I've no regrets in acquiring it using dodgy methods.

The new Bjork one and three Boards albums, though i already have their newest one.

Bjork and Boards Of Canada.

Mooooooore records. And car insurance.

Ex Machina - 9.4 One of the best films I've seen.

Sorry if there's already a thread for his work but I can't see it and if there isn't one then that is a shame and you guys have gone down in my estimation. So, er, yeah, he's just put 110 unreleased tracks online from the 90's. Really good ambient stuff, from what i've heard so far. Him at his best imo. I can't think of another artist who has so much stuff. Ridiculous. https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001/sets/all

People are weird.

People are weird.

I need to be more self aware in terms of my impact on society, rather than self aware in terms of my insecurities.

I think for some bands, that kind of journey is a bit of a thing of the past. Whilst for previous albums there's been live tracks to ponder alongside the constant speculation of long forgotten songs that people want to hear an album version of, long gone are the days when Radiohead kept a diary of their time in the studio. So long ago, in fact, it was before I could class myself as a fan, so I've never experienced that either.

I don't dislike her. I don't like her. I have no idea how anybody could possibly have any opinion on her. Unless they actually knew her, of course. It is a shame that people that don't need to buy into her as a concept of health, though.