Socrates

They're probably afraid that Coldplay might make Radiohead seem insignificant... Forty years from now, when Coldplay are for the most part forgotten, I hope you remember this statement and cringe. I know I will.

This I agree with.

Hey, if you want to listen to middling music, it can't be helped. I'm just telling it like it is.

Re: The Great First Three Albums Debate Coldplay vs The D :sleeping2:

Yes, it's truly shocking that a retarded wilfully-populist rag seeking sales would hype retarded wilfully-populist music seeking sales. When you labelled this thread 'crazy' you were conning yourself.

4/10. At best. At best.

I endorse this thread. :)

Radiohead will be remembered for all the right reasons, Coldplay for all the wrong ones. I mean, let's not fuck around, for all Radiohead's faults (and they are myriad, especially in the last few years, or prior to the release of The Bends), they made two excellent records that were culturally relevant, challenging (at least to mainstream perceptions), technically impressive, emotionally charged, and progressive. Coldplay have two very average ones and a third that should, if there were any justice in the world, drop off the face of the planet. In forty years they will be forgotten.

Hey, remember when Pink Floyd were great? Me neither. It's really hard to track down that hour or so of respectable material in their mostly awful back catalogue.

Razorlight make mediocre music to soundtrack mediocre lives.

Any song you care to choose from Starsailor, the album, is superior to the entire collected works of Starsailor the band. Buckley is turning in his grave because of this puddle of piss masquerading as music.

It's much, much better than their debut, which I didn't like much.

Actually the initial shortlist had 67 records on it, but I promised 50 records I have heard from 2005 that are better than X&Y, so here they are: [01] 13&God [02] Aesop Rock / Fast Cars, Danger, Fire and Knives EP [03] Amon Tobin / Chaos Theory [04] Animal Collective / Prospect Hummer EP [05] Architecture in Helsinki / In Case We Die [06] Art Brut / Bang Bang Rock & Roll [07] Autechre / Untilted [08] Beck / Guero [09] Black Mountain [10] Bloc Party / Silent Alarm [11] The Books / Lost and Safe [12] British Sea Power / Open Season [13] Caribou / The Milk of Human Kindness [14] Common / Be [15] Dälek / Absence [16] The Decemberists / Picaresque [17] Deerhoof / Green Cosmos [18] The Duke Spirit / Cuts Across the Land [19] Edan / Beauty and the Beat [20] Editors / The Back Room [21] Engineers [22] Fiery Furnaces EP [23] Gang Gang Dance / God's Money [24] Gorillaz / Demon Days [25] Hood / Outside Closer [26] Iron & Wine / Woman King EP [27] Isolée / Wearemonster [28] LCD Soundsystem [29] Jamie Lidell / Multiply [30] MF Doom / Live from Planet X [31] Magnolia Electric Co. / What Comes After the Blues [32] Manual / Azure Vista [33] M.I.A. / Arular [34] Mogwai / Government Commissions (BBC Sessions 1996-2003) [35] Mu / Out Of Breach (Manchester's Revenge) [36] The National / Alligator [37] Okkeril River / Black Sheep Boy [38] Out Hud / Let Us Never Speak of It Again [39] The Perceptionists / Black Dialogue [40] The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower / Love in the Fascist Brothel [41] Prefuse 73 / Surrounded by Silence [42] Quasimoto / The Further Adventures of Lord Quas [43] Queens of the Stone Age / Lullabies to Paralyze [44] Roots Manuva / Awfully Deep [45] Shining / In the Kingdom of Kitsch You Will Be a Monster [46] Sons & Daughters / The Repulsion Box [47] Spoon / Gimme Fiction [48] Sufjan Stevens / Come On! Feel the Illinoise! [49] Superwolf [50] We Are Wolves / Non-Stop Je Te Plie en Plus

It'll take me a while. I've heard a lot of albums this year.

I'll tell you what. I'll compile a list of fifty records that came out this year that are better than X&Y.

Britney Spears's last album has more songs on it that are interesting to listen to than Coldplay's X&Y. No fooling. She and Chris Martin exude the same degree of sincerity and artistic credibility (read: none).

Reilly, you also started a thread about the Band, so I'm not sure what to think now. But I will shake your hand for that at least.

Also, cold kitty, that is the last time I will address you directly until you get rid of that Bravery avatar. They are the absolute worst of the rehashed dull thief-rock that has been doing the rounds since the Strokes stumbled out of the seventies with everyone else's music in their back pocket.

You people are hilarious. Of course I don't like Blue or Crazy Frog, but keep it up, I can always do with a chuckle. Although, that said, at least half of the kind of disposable pop music that charts is better than Coldplay, seriously. I also love the people assuming I'm a U2/Radiohead fan. It's much easier to dismiss me when you can put me into your prepackaged notions. U2 are, for the most part, resoundingly terrible bar some of their earliest material, which only partially redeems them. And Radiohead, while responsible for two of the most important and brilliant records of the last decade or so, also make albums as horrifically boring as Hail to the Thief. I do like people talking about X&Y being Coldplay's Kid A, though, considering it's less edgy or interesting than the shitheap that is Pablo Honey. Reilly, you are my new favourite boarder here for even mentioning Talking Heads. And then you went and spoiled it all by saying something stupid like 'Soundgarden' and 'Smashing Pumpkins'. As for cold kitty, of course you should like music based off your own opinions. Unfortunately when you operate from within a tiny sphere of available music, your selection margins become pretty hindered and you start thinking, oh, I don't know, that Coldplay make relatively good music (here's a clue: they don't). All the music I have seen mentioned here is white commercial rock from the last twenty years, at most. And for the most part it's not even good white commercial rock. That's awfully depressing.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/c/coldplay/x-and-y.shtml

Let me guess - "it's subjective". I'm not asking you to listen to good music, I'm asking you to listen to music that isn't overwhelmingly trite, banal, uninspiring, derivative and short on any redeeming entertainment value.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. 302 pages of discussion on Muse? You should have condensed it into just three words: Fuck. That. Shit.

Embrace? U2? Muse? No wonder you morons like Coldplay's insipid, half-hearted drivel. You have absolutely no clue about music. Congratulations on being the most laidback music fans on the Internet, if only because no one else is prepared to tolerate quite as much bland generic indie elevator wank as you guys do. Kudos. It's people like you that allow atrocities like X&Y to be perpetrated, and ensure that not only do mediocre bands get away with making some dull music, they actually get paid for it. Good hustle, champs.