the_gloaming09

With all of this Icelandic talk... I say you get Sigur Ros to play w/ the aurora and then that'd be pretty much perfect

I'm not exactly sure of ideas. I was thinking just now about possibly doing an animated gif or something like the new years day time square ball drop. Sort of signifying the new decade beginning, and then have like various albums be confetti or something. Just thought about this idea now, haven't really given it too much more thought honestly. I'll have to brainstorm some more/alternative ideas

That is a good point... I mean you don't want to worry if he'll return from a regular trip. At the same time you want to give him his freedom. I feel the same way in that now that I'm older I feel so grateful for what others have done for me that I want to give back and help them.

yeah. I mean they've lived their lives, raising children and they should have the independence to do what they want. It's like you see this children (who are of course grown up), that put their parents into these nursing homes stating that it's better for them. Really all this means is that they don't want to take the responsibility to take care of their parents in my eyes. Even if say their parents are unable to take care of themselves, then at least hire someone to come in to take care of them. I feel that if I was their age I'd hate to be taken away from my house and be put into some lifeless home/hospital.

I think overall no matter what your parents say about you not being born... pay no attention to it. Clearly they are trying to bully you for personal satisfaction to feel better about themselves, when essentially they're just being terrible people. Sorry for so many posts in this thread... but I have always had a big issue with people not treating others with respect and or love... especially on the opposite side of the spectrum of this topic where the kids treat their parents like shit and put them nursing homes without visiting or whatever.

that's unacceptable. You're supposed to be there for your child to support them an love them unconditionally. And to have pressure from the grandparents? I think that the parents should have enough courage to be able to make their own decisions. Not to get onto the subject of abortion vs. non-abortion, but I think that if people don't want to have a child they should use protection. If not then do one of two things... have and raise the child and love them as much as you can, or... give the child up for adoption to a family that will love them uncontitionally. that's fucked up. Honestly this thread really pisses me off and makes me angry in terms that parents can do this to their children. They seriously should be kicked in the ass and wake up already! To put down your own child is unacceptable. I feel bad that both of you (as well as probably many others) have had to go through this. There's no need for them to treat you like that.

just had some homemade Apple Pie... mmmmm

I totally agree alexa! to mention it to the child is a really shitty thing to do, that probably really hurts the person psychologically and also in terms of confidence within themselves. I don't see how someone can be that selfish to make such a hurtful remark to their own blood.

I don't see how parents could tell their children that. It's very damaging to a person to be constantly told that over and over. What I don't get is say if you parents feel that way or have felt that way, then why not just give up the child to adoption to a set of parents that would probably give the child a better life?

that's screwed up for him calling you a "liar bitch"

hmm... so then there's no family that lives close enough that you'd be able to stay at the same school? I sort of had a similar situation w/ one of my friends in high school in the sense that neither his parents really cared for him and he was constantly tossed from one house to another. Eventually he began to live at friends houses. I don't know what his current situation is because we drifted apart. But I do know that him living at other peoples houses did cause problems (especially since he graduated HS, was lazy, and didn't have a job).

that sounds like a good idea. Is there any other family that you could possibly stay with temporarily, at least until you graduate?

wow... what a douche! seriously he's an asshole to even say that to him. I really have no respect for people that can't treat their children with respect or have the audacity to say something like that to you. I'm sorry that you have to deal w/ someone like that that clearly doesn't like you. I mean even if say he didn't like the idea of having a child, that after time he would get used to it and love you regardless. Regardless of what he says don't let it get to your or make you think that it's true. Like I said I'm sure there are a bunch of people that would think the opposite. I hope things work themselves out :)

That's terrible that you think your father thinks that way of you. Did he actually tell you that himself? If that's the case, I think it's really fucked up. When I think about it now I feel that abortion in some sense shouldn't be done because if they had agreed to doing it then we wouldn't have had you here Sara! So I don't think you should feel shame because, even if he does feel that way, there are probably so many more people that are glad that you are around! My parents sort of planned me for being born, so neither wanted me aborted.

^wow! (especially the top one)

yeah it started 2 hours ago but only reilly showed, so i ended it. I was just asking if anyone else was interested in participating in one, but if there isn't then i'll just do it another day... no big deal

no one really showed :( if anyone is still interested let me know

that past-life thing was interesting

anyone?

ahem... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-gloaming09

a member of atease got to meet up with Stanley Donwood in Rome at one of his shows and this is what was said Interesting with Wall of Ice... confirms that the leak of Twisted Words was intentional and by the band, and also thinking about the quote, perhaps Wall of Ice might be the next album title or something... I wonder.

not really sure... if I was doing it i'd search on youtube

Feel better! Be sure to just sleep/rest a bunch and drink plenty of fluids

or I think that Ghosts might just be spirits that haven't been able to pass on to the next life/afterlife/heaven/whatever it is. Or it could just be spirits that don't know/haven't come to terms w/ being dead.

:lol: ...no problem!