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Was able to get a GA ticket for PA. No luck w/ NY, but will try again tomorrow and Saturday!

I agree. I think they'll probably meet for a few sessions to maybe begin to flesh out some songs, or perhaps show some new songs written. Between the Atoms for Peace tour dates during the summer, and then September-November scattered I don't see RH really getting into the studio until early next year (by the time December rolls around they go on holiday)

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I have an amendment I'd like to add... Congress' pay will be directly reflective of their approval rating. So if the country is not going in the right direction or if people are dissatisfied then their pay will decrease. So if the approval rating is 14%, they make 14,000 a year. This way they'll be more than sure to work for the people rather than special interests

They were okay. Some bits of their set were really good, other bits were too weird or dissonant and experimental

The transitions between songs was incredible, since they were all connected. I kind of wish that Thom and Nigel would release a mix of the entire show The openers were Arca and Holly Henderson

I can't get over how great last nights show was! Just so great on so many levels even though they didn't go on until 1am! The first two openers were okay. They had moments that were really good, but other bits that weren't. I liked the first opener much better. The 2nd one was too experimental at times and there was nothing to hook you in during those moments. As for Atoms for Peace the show was just so good! Thom sang all of the songs and had backing tracks. I don't remember the exact order of songs but they did: Ingenue Black Swan Before Your Very Eyes... The Eraser Atoms for Peace Harrowdown Hill Default Stuck Together Pieces Amok Dropped Unless S.A.D. Thom played guitar for Black Swan, Before Your Very Eyes... and Bass for Harrowdown Hill. I was so impressed by the transitions between songs. Highlights of these transitions were going into Stuck Together Pieces, Before Your Very Eyes & Default. Honestly every song was a highlight of the show, but I will say I have a better liking for Default after seeing it performed. It's not as if I didn't like it , but in a live setting it's so good!

DJ Set tomorrow night! :dance:

Someone mentioned on atease that it sounds like Feral, almost like part of the drums (at lease the beginning), which I would agree with. I don't think that this is a real song though, more like studio workings. Much like for the Dazed and Confused there was something called Bloom Treatments

Was only able to listen to it via tumblr (someone posted it from there) http://this-is--the-gloaming.tumblr.com/post/44996303296/lunarsurface-vinyl-rip-of-the-new-atoms-for

A vinyl rip of the b-side for JJ&E leaked (S.A.D.). so good!

Wall Street decentralization was started w/ Reagan, but the housing bubble (what Clinton created), was probably the biggest mess. Yet of course it's great how no one remembers about with that w/ Clinton except that the economy was donig great (believed to just be the .com bubble). The problem is that as each economic crisis hits, the Gov't does something to help it, which is a temporary solution for a bigger problem. It's like if you had leaky pipes, rather than replace the pipes you'll just put tape over it to stop the leak. The more an longer we continue this path, the harder the fall is going to be. I think there's equal blame to go around. The banks made poor investments, the gov't didn't give any harsh consequences (but rather bailed out banks who subsequently afterwards made record profits while millions of americans lost their jobs for their actions), and the media didn't help to report all of the malinvestments to keep people informed. My point is if you can't run a business or bank or whatever properly then you shouldn't get bailed out by the Gov't. And then that opens up a whole other can of worms. Well what if a major company fails, what if some utility fails, etc. Are we going to start bailing out those things too?! As quoted below from Nick we can't continue on the path that we're on. I mean first of all it's impossible to ever pay back the debt which the Gov't knows, but if there was some inkling of wanting to do it there would have to be most importantly massive spending cuts across the board. Well look who finally decided to chime in. Took you long enough...

This has been pretty great so far. The transitions between songs are so good!

I've never really been compared to anyone now that I think of it.

HAVE to tune in to this!

Keynesian economics don't work as we have seen. Yes it's a nice idea to add more money into the economy, but in the long run it hurts the economy. The more you print money the less valuable it becomes. So today for example, the real value of say milk or bread is what it has always been, but it costs more because the currency is worth less. If you look back in history, ever since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913, the dollar has lost nearly 96% of it's purchasing power! The problem with the US is that when an economic problem arises such as the 08 crisis people think the solution is more government intervention. These banks made horrendously bad investments, and even knew they were bad. Why should they have been bailed out? If any one of us did the same thing we would lose everything and go to jail. You have to also remember that the sub-prime loans started with Clinton who wanted to essentially give every American the opportunity to buy a house. It's a nice idea for everyone to own a house, but people who can't afford one shouldn't buy one. So Clinton really helped for this to spiral out of control. Also if you look in the past things like the Great Depression, even all of FDR's New Deal plans didn't get us out of a recession and it wasn't until after WWII that things were really prosperous for the US. However in 1922 there was a depression and we were able to get out of it fairly quickly because President Harding didn't interfere.

ok. Then why is it that companies are hiring workers outside of the US? Why is the US no longer a product producing country? My point is... does it suck to get paid that little? yes. But overall there are people that will work those jobs. And why should American companies hire workers in the US if they can get them for 1/2 the price? I'm not saying it's right but that's what's been happening. Companies will go for the cheapest labor around, so that means less earning for people living in the US and more to other countries.

People think that it's great if you do that but it just makes it worse. Firstly employers are going to do 2 things when that happens. a. they won't hire as many people since it's more expensive and b. are going to raise prices of their products. Not only that but it'll help to lead to even more outsourcing which means even fewer products will be produced in this country. If anything what we need is less minimum wage to get employers to want to hire here. Or I say even better yet give tax breaks to companies that hire permanent workers here and keep them. If they outsource then they get no tax break.

Not even the fiscal cliff, you have the debt ceiling too! I'm really surprised that our creditors around the world are still playing this ponzi scheme debt game. We're basically telling the world, "we have been borrowing money to pay off the interest on previous loans, so please keep letting us borrow more to pay off the loan". It's insanity! To be honest I'm not very hopeful at all. We have becoming a consumer country and not a producer country at all. We make barely anything in this country and just purchase goods from the rest of the world. How are we supposed to increase our income if all jobs are overseas? And the $16 trillion in debt is for funded projects! It's not even taking into consideration the nearly $123 trillion in unfunded liabilities (aka future promises) for things like medicare, prescription drugs and social security! Our country is in serious trouble, yet so few people actually realize what is going on which is scary. One day all of these debts are going to catch up to us and people will be in for a big surprise when the prices of things go through the roof. Sorry for the long or doom and gloom post, but I don't see a lot of hope to turn things back around. edit: this is also neither a democrat or republican problem or a bush or obama problem. The problem has been around for a while and has progressively been getting worse with more intervention to put a band-aid on the wound rather then doing full surgery. If anything I say the real problems started with Nixon who took us off the gold standard to a fiat currency (to fund Vietnam), thus opening pandora's box for out of control spending. All fiat currencies in human history have gone to zero and failed, and now we're starting to see our dollar do the same.

Prices will continue to go up regardless of these cuts.

I really like that 2nd video

The problem is that these cuts aren't really cuts in the sense that it's reducing the debt. The cuts are really just cuts to increases in spending. So we would have spent more for 2013 than we did in 2012 regardless of if these cuts go into effect or not. What I find most incredible about this is how the sequester was to go into effect to get the US budget under control and try to fix this problem. On top of that it was also put into place when we expanded our debt limit. To go back in 2011 we had the so called crisis built up that if we didn't expand our debt limit we would default. When they increased our debt limit they put into place and essentially told all people buying our debt that we would reduce spending and would have cuts. But as we've seen with the fiscal cliff and now this, the US has no intentions of either paying back it's debt or reducing it's spending. As always it's nothing but fear mongering to scare the public and get people to contact their representatives to pass this. People need to wake up and see that this country has a massive spending problem that needs to get controlled. Are there going to be hard times to control spending? Of course, but perhaps if the people paid more attention to what their taxpayer money went to and had more of a voice things might be different. Also another little fun fact to people who think the sky is falling with this. The federal reserve buys a total of $85 billion (the same amount that is to be cut), in US treasuries and mortgage bonds per month ...of course that isn't something that makes it to the news...

Someone else posted it on their youtube. [ame= ] [/ame] Have you received Amok yet?

This might be better... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgCxFqVIT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgCxFqVIT8[/ame]