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Neocons Baiting Iran With Second Strike Group Neocons Baiting Iran With Second Strike Group Waiting with anticipation for any excuse to pounce A top US diplomat has confirmed that a second U.S. aircraft carrier strike group has been deployed to the Gulf in order to send a clear signal to Iran that they will be crushed if they continue to defy the wishes of the US government by enriching uranium. "The Middle East isn't a region to be dominated by Iran. The Gulf isn't a body of water to be controlled by Iran. That's why we've seen the United States station two carrier battle groups in the region," Nicholas Burns, U.S. undersecretary of state for political affairs, said in an address to the Dubai-based Gulf Research Center, an influential think-tank, as reported by the AP. "Iran is going to have to understand that the United States will protect its interests if Iran seeks to confront us," Burns continued. Yes, it is of course Iran who are doing the confronting, not the country that has deployed Patriot anti-missile missiles, aircraft carriers, and cruise-missile-firing ships, nor the country that has already allegedly attempted to engage in pre-emptive strikes upon Iran. Despite reports that Iran is willing to conduct talks, the White House is still refusing to even entertain the idea, sticking to the "we don't converse with evil" mantra, deciding instead to deploy war cruisers. The likelihood of some kind of conflict is looking increasingly probable with arch neocons such as Richard Perle preaching that the President would have no hesitation in attacking Iran. Discussing a possible US involvement in a strike on Iran , Perle said at a conference in Israel: "Would this president do it? I think that until the day he leaves office, this is a president that, if he is told, 'Mr. President, you are at the point of no return,' I have very little doubt that this president would order the necessary military action." Perle began his speech by saying it wasn't clear whether "it's our time or Iran's that is over." With Bush's approval rating at an all time low of 28% now, and the current situation in Iraq, it is clear he has nothing left to lose now and indeed may be "at the point of no return" as far as the American people are concerned. Interestingly Bilderberg shill John Edwards was also in attendance at the same conference as Perle in Herzliya, Israel, where he also today told the watching Israeli delegates that Iran must be stopped at all costs. With a second strike group deployed it does seem like the neocon warmongers are expecting something to happen very soon. Last week, a former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Admiral Eduard Baltin, revealed that he believes a missile attack on the Iranians is imminent, while Republican Congressman and 2008 Presidential candidate Ron Paul fears a staged Gulf of Tonkin style incident may be used to provoke air strikes on Iran. Indeed there were numerous strange reports of incidents occurring in the Gulf from rumours of nonexistent clashes between Iranian and American battleships to those of missile strikes on U.S. vessels. Meanwhile the AP and Reuters have been filing misleading reports stating that Iran has barred IAEA inspectors, an allegation that turns out to be inaccurate according to the IAEA themselves who today stated: "It should be noted however, that there are a sufficient number of inspectors designated for Iran and the IAEA is able to perform its inspection activities in accordance with Iran's Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement." Iran has also begun massing troops along its borders with north Iraq, in addition to launching missile war games, while top a Middle East analyst and former State Department official has gone public with claims that U.S. plans envision a broad attack on Iran, rather than surgical strikes, as part of a war that likely would further destabilize the Middle East for years.

Hey! I know. It does actually look like the 21st July 'attempt' was a genuine group. I really haven't talked about the 21st July here. He's an absolute bastard yes, but I don't see it solely against Bush - that's what idiots think, that it's just against Bush. So you get it me right first. The July 7th "attack" on the otherhand - british itel. led. And when are you going to wake up to that sir. Probably never. Right, off to watch the State Of The Union address........this should be "fun".

Yeah, I'd read this a while ago. It's quite a bizarre story. If I started chatting to a girl who turned out to be 11 and I told her i wanted her to sing on my album - I think I would be in alot of trouble... But, glad this one worked out ok.

No, well I don't just claim sources though. In this instance the article mentions someone who claims a Government source and it makes light of the fact that this man is indeed making a claim. I personally am not claiming anything here - just passing on the information of the existence of the claim. Although many other points after that in the article are sourced.

Edited. (Double Post)

I'm not - I am however pointing out that the tactics used on mainstream news - of simply claiming "sources" on a large section of stories is pretty much accepted as gospel by most of the dumbed-down viewers, when indeed mainstream news is now a huge business and is controlled by very powerful power with huge conflicts of interest.

Exactly, you can watch the news on TV all day and it's "sources say" this and "sources say" that. AND I guess William Thomas should be asked about his sources. Israel abides by law? Do my a favour. And when I say 'Israel' I mean it's terrorising leaders and NOT it's general public.

Hmm, I was sure it was already out over there......considering they've played dates over there in which they played song from "...And the glass handed kites".

Yeah, I heard Setting Sun randomly on MTV2 a while ago and then got the album online. It's not bad, I think.

Haha. I don't unerstand Spookytooth and I don't think I ever will. What's that stuff about "lack of the musical knowledge" he/she was on about? I'm affraid I have too much musical knowledge for my own good, haha. In fact I think Spooktooth sounds a lot like Thom Yorkes disjointed rants

Again, What? In fact, don't bother.

What the hell are you on about? I said that it wasn't anything to do with my love of either Thom or his band Radiohead......I was talking only about your bizarre comprehension of what people understand as a sensible post. I'll say it again, you could have been making a post about ANY band or person and I would have made the exact same comment. And my initial points still stand: - Why do you feel the need to create a topic on a message board about your bizzare feelings for Thom Yorke and Radiohead? - Radiohead and indeed Thom Yorke are not to everyones taste - but this true of everything....I don't like Tomatoes but I haven't created a pointless thread about my own aimless reasons why I don't like the taste......so I'll say now that your thead reaks of low brain cells on your part. Anyone, I am right or crazy? I think my tolerance of stupidity is at an all time low. Again, why am I wasting my time....someone stop me for gods sake.

Reporter Claims Israeli Nuke Strike On Iran Averted By U.S. Fighters Sources say F16 suicide mission armed with 20-kiloton bomb recalled by Israelis under threat of U.S. Sidewinder missile shootdown Friday, January 19, 2007 As escalation towards a war with Iran reaches fever pitch, an online journalist today breaks the astounding news that Israeli fighter jets have already attempted to bomb tactical locations in Iran with nuclear weapons nearly twice as powerful as the one dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, only to be turned back by U.S. warplanes over Iraq. William Thomas, familiar to many for his work in ascertaining the true nature of chemtrails, cites two sources with U.S. and other military contacts who told him that on two recent occasions Israeli fighter bombers armed with both conventional and nuclear weapons were turned back by U.S. planes under threat of missile interception. The latest incident occurred on January 7th, claims Thomas, in which jets trespassed beyond the authorized zone over Iraq "Before being recalled by Israeli authorities." Sources told Thomas that the attack squadron "Comprised three IAF F-16s. Each carried conventional munitions—as well as a single 20-kiloton nuclear bomb." Thomas goes into great depth about the circumstances behind the attempted raid in a near 5,000 word article posted on his website. According to Thomas' source, Israeli warplanes "Are routinely “topped off” by American aerial refueling tankers, but only on condition that the Israeli jets fly a “racetrack” holding pattern—and do not continue “downtown” toward Iran." The target of the January 7 raid was purported to be Iran's 3rd Tactical Air Base at Hamadan, where Revolutionary Guard troops and substantial weapons deposits are stationed. The source even suggested that the attack was designed to be a one way kamikaze mission whereby, "Volunteer pilots are prepared to fly their nuclear bombs “into their targets” if necessary." The news dovetails yesterday's scare, briefly provoked by a rumor that an Iranian missile had struck a U.S. naval vessel in the Gulf. "The bond market briefly pared losses on talk of possible military engagement between the United States and Iran, but turned back down after the Defense Department said the incident did not occur," reported Reuters. This followed reports on Wednesday that Iran had shot down a U.S. drone near its border. It also comes after Iranian officials condemned a U.S. raid on a consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil, during which five Iranian diplomats were kidnapped. Many saw the raid, which was directly authorized by the White House, as an outright attempt on behalf of the U.S. to provoke a heavy handed Iranian response that would boost the Neo-Con's justification for war. Republican Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul recently expressed his fear during a speech on the House floor that the Bush administration could contrive a staged Gulf of Tonkin style incident to garner domestic and international support for an air strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. Over the last two weeks events have accelerated a seemingly inevitable path to conflict. American aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines are multiplying in the Persian Gulf and Bush recently appointed Adm. William Fallon, a Navy veteran, to oversee the ground war in Iraq, a contradiction many fear betrays preparation for an attack on Iran's uranium enrichment facilities which could take place as soon as next month according to several analysts. A bipartisan group of lawmakers in Congress is attempting to rush though legislation that would bar President Bush from authorizing an attack on Iran without House approval but it all seems to be too little too late. Bush's entire Presidency has characterized itself as a unitary dictatorship and his administration has proven itself time and time again perfectly willing to completely ignore the will of Congress and the people in pursuing its preset agenda. In addition, Bush could avoid having to go to Congress by simply providing tacit support for an Israeli strike portrayed as a lone action, as happened this past summer in Lebanon. The most interesting aspect of such an attack if it does take place will undoubtedly be the response of Russia. Having taken measures to protect their investment in the growth of Iranian nuclear facilities by providing state of the art missile defense systems, the Russians have received severe condemnation from both the U.S. and Israel. The Turkish Weekly quoted a senior Israeli official in Jerusalem who took a bold swipe at Russia by stating, "We hope they understand that this is a threat that could come back to them as well."

1) You speak in a way that is almost a new language 2) Why do you feel the need to create a topic on a message board about your bizzare feelings for Thom Yorke and Radiohead? 3) Radiohead and indeed Thom Yorke are not to everyones taste - but this true of everything....I don't like Tomatoes but I haven't created a pointless thread about my own aimless reasons why I don't like the taste......so I'll say now that your thead reaks of low brain cells on your part. 4) Errrm.....I like Radiohead and Thom Yorke a great deal but this isn't the reason why your thread is poor. 5) I don't know why I wasted my time writing this.

Chat room worked fine for me....I even heard my username read out on air once I think. any, the chatroom was full of little kids.

Not from those guys, no way.

Yeah, I'm affaid it is. That's the currupt Chinese government for you.

Yeah, I only like a few tracks though. They had one single I hated to bits.

Best Hot Chip track.

Nick Cave and Kyile huh.....I didn't expect this.

Not quite death metal, lol. It's sort of prog. emo-rock. Whatever the hell that is!

Haha, indeed. Also, what is this shit he's playing? I hate this song....it's an MTV2 regualar, makes me sick.

He has a piano infront of him, great, more hyperactive Martin.

'21st of July London bomb plot was just a hoax' BBC Thursday, January 18, 2007 One of the defendants in the London "bomb plot" trial, Hussein Osman, was arrested in Rome and interviewed at length by police. He is said to have told officers after his arrest he and his co-accused had been making a political point and the devices they carried were never meant to explode. Nigel Sweeney QC, prosecuting, told Woolwich Crown Court, Mr Osman had admitted to police that his real name was Hamdi Isaac and he was born in Ethiopia in 1978. Mr Osman was said to have told police he had moved to Italy in the early 1990s and to the UK in the late 1990s where he adopted the identity Hussein Osman. He also said he had pretended he was Somali because he thought it would make it easier to claim asylum. He said he met Muktar Ibrahim, Yassin Omar and Ramzi Mohammed at a mosque and had known them for two years, the court was told. They played football together and went on camping expeditions to Scotland and Kent and had been to Speaker's Corner in London's Hyde Park to talk about religion, Mr Osman is said to have told police. Explosives 'not real' Mr Sweeney said Mr Osman told police they first decided to carry out a "demonstration" about a week after the 7 July attacks on London. Mr Osman said they decided to take action against the background of what was happening in Iraq and the UK - and claimed that Muslim women being beaten up in the aftermath of the attacks. Mr Osman claimed that Mr Ibrahim had made the bombs, inserted the detonators and demonstrated how they would work, the court heard. But he is also said to have explained that Mr Ibrahim had told him the main charge was not real explosives at all but flour. The court heard that the men decided to meet at Mr Mohammed's home on 20 July. Mr Ibrahim, Mr Omar and Manfo Asiedu picked Mr Osman up on that day and took him to Mr Mohammed's address, he said. Mr Osman said it was only then they decided to carry out a fake attack the next day, Mr Sweeney told the jury. Shaved beard He is said to have told officers he knew the detonator was real and was designed to explode just to "frighten people". Mr Sweeney told the court that Mr Osman said they all made the bomb mixtures at Mr Mohammed's home on 20 July and he shaved his beard off. He is said to have told police he set off on the Tube eastbound and thought Mr Asiedu was going to White City on the Central Line. He allegedly told detectives there was no plan about what they were supposed to do afterwards but they decided not to meet each other again for safety reasons. Mr Sweeney told the court Mr Osman said he was "economical with the truth" when asked to explain how he escaped from Britain because he did not want to involve other people. He told officers he only decided to leave London after Jean Charles de Menezes was mistaken for a bomber and killed on 22 July, Mr Sweeney said.

Guest Cites Fox's Fictional "24" as Evidence that Terrorists are "Out There" News Hounds Thursday, January 18, 2007 Former New York City police detective Bo Dietl was Neil Cavuto's guest today (January 17, 2007) on Your World. Dietl appeared along with Imam Hassan Al-Qazwini, of the Islamic Center of America, to discuss a January 7 incident in which Northwest Airlines prohibited a group of 40 Muslims from boarding a plane in Germany, after a pilgrimage to the Hajj, on their return trip to Detroit. The group said that Northwest's action was discriminatory and threatened to launch a boycott, whereupon Northwest apologized and agreed to pay for any expenses incurred as a result of the "snafu." At one point Cavuto turned to Dietl and said, "Bo, you have a problem with Northwest apologizing, right?" to which Dietl responded: No, I have a problem because things have changed, Hassan. We have to look at -- a bunch of Irish guys are not going to get on the plane now and blow themselves up or put themselves into buildings. The fact of the matter is, I mean, you don't watch '24?' On Fox TV? They're out there. They're out there. There are cells out there. We have to protect ourselves against them as Americans. Comment: Either Dietl is a hack, shamelessly promoting a Fox television show; he's as ignorant as he appears, or both. Whatever happened, Cavuto, being a "journalist" and all, had an obligation to tell his audience that what appears on "24" is fictional, which he didn't do. Also, what a "coincidence" this is. Last night Keith Olbermann aired a segment with Robert Greenwald, the producer of Outfoxed, titled: "Fox Scaring You Into Watching '24?'". Maybe this is Rupert Murdoch's bullyboy way of telling both Olbermann and Greenwald to f**k off.