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You are actaully living in The O.C aren't you? Look, I've heard from people who were kept there....they have talked about the things that went on and it's disgusting......then these british citizens were let go...having done nothing wrong...... It's a hell hole of torture to humans without any charge against them... The birtish guys who were there were caught in Afganistan just after the bombings started.... They were on a trip there from Pakistan where a friend was getting married.. They were repeatedly called Al Qaeda for months in an attempt to get a false submission and admission on tape..... It's a place in which criminal acts are carried out - which would never would happen if the prison was based in the US mainland........ Don't be so idiotic.

You didn't just say that....... There's a whole bunch of things I normally would say to you right now.....and they aren't very pleasant. You are bordering on sub-human scum at times.

Haha :laugh: Yeah, it make me wanna sign up with the free trial just so I have fun cancelling it. Although in the UK I don't think the customer services guys are THAT bad.

Yeah, yeah....probably....still.....it's a bit too much. I like this bit.... AOL: Alright, some day when you calmed down you're gonna realize that all I was trying to do was help you... and it was actually in your best interest to listen to me. VINCENT: Wonderful, Okay. lol.

On Tape: Rep Won't Let Customer Quit AOL NBC | June 22 2006 An incredible video from CNBC shows an AOL customer trying to cancel his account, but a phone rep won't let him do it. What customer Vincent Ferrari got when he tried to cancel his account was a lot of frustration. It took him 15 minutes waiting on the phone just to reach a real, live person. And, what happened next was recorded by Ferrari on audio and lasted about four minutes: WATCH/LISTEN TO CLIP HERE LISTEN TO THE CALL HERE ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ CLOCK READOUT - 00:00 AOL REPRESENTATIVE: Hi this is John at AOL... how may I help you today? VINCENT FERRARI: I wanted to cancel my account. AOL: Sorry to hear that. Let's pull your account up here real quick. Can I have your name please? VINCENT: Vincent Ferrari. CLOCK READOUT - 00:30 AOL: You've had this account for a long time. VINCENT: Yup. AOL: Use this quite a bit. What was the cause of wanting to turn this off today? VINCENT: I just don't use it anymore. AOL: Do you have a high speed connection, like the DSL or cable? VINCENT: Yup. AOL: How long have you had that... VINCENT: Years... AOL: ...the high speed? VINCENT: ...years. AOL: Well, actually I'm showing a lot of usage on this account. VINCENT: Yeah, a long time, a long time ago, not recently... CLOCK READOUT - 01:47 AOL: Okay, I mean is there a problem with the software itself? VINCENT: No. I just don't use it, I don't need it, I don't want it. I just don't need it anymore. AOL: Okay. So when you use this... I mean, use the computer, I'm saying, is that for business or for... for school? VINCENT: Dude, what difference does it make. I don't want the AOL account anymore. Can we please cancel it? CLOCK READOUT - 02:21 AOL: Last year was 545, last month was 545 hours of usage... VINCENT: I don't know how to make this any clearer, so I'm just gonna say it one last time. Cancel the account. AOL: Well explain to me what's, why... VINCENT: I'm not explaining anything to you. Cancel the account. AOL: Well, what's the matter man? We're just, I'm just trying to help here. VINCENT: You're not helping me. You're helping me... AOL: I am trying to help. VINCENT: Helping... listen, I called to cancel the account. Helping me would be canceling the account. Please help me and cancel the account. AOL: No, it wouldn't actually... VINCENT: Cancel my account... AOL: Turning off your account... VINCENT: ...cancel the account... AOL: ...would be the worst thing that... VINCENT: ...cancel the account. CLOCK READOUT - 03:02 AOL: Okay, cause I'm just trying to figure out... VINCENT: Cancel the account. I don't know how to make this any clearer for you. Cancel the account. When I say cancel the account, I don't mean help me figure out how to keep it, I mean cancel the account. AOL: Well, I'm sorry, I don't know what anybody's done to you Vincent because all I'm... VINCENT: Will you please cancel the account. CLOCK READOUT - 03:32 AOL: Alright, some day when you calmed down you're gonna realize that all I was trying to do was help you... and it was actually in your best interest to listen to me. VINCENT: Wonderful, Okay. CLOCK READOUT - 03:39 "I've never ever experienced anything like that," Ferrari told CNBC. He recounts how the AOL representative - as a last resort even asked if his dad was home. "I think I could've put up with everything, but at the point when he asked to speak to my father, I came very close to losing it at that point," said the 30-year-old Ferrari. Ferrari then posted the call online, and the response was tremendous. AOL sent him an apology and said the customer service rep was no longer with the company.

Haha, yes, I guess it's always the case.

Indeed. I really do remember when this first was in the news....

I called this when I heard the news this morning....utter lies again. Cooked Terror Plot Recycles Politics Of Fear 'Al-Qaeda' plan to fly planes into London skyscrapers concocted by government lobbyists Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 22 2006 In another bizarre example of Tony Blair's government playing with the politics of fear, a discredited terror plot concerning Al-Qaeda plans to fly planes into London skyscrapers, an admitted fairy tale manufactured by government lobbyists, resurfaced today as a new story. The BBC reports that a Department of Homeland Security dossier verifies a previous 'Al-Qaeda' plan to hijack planes from Heathrow airport and fly them into nearby Canary Wharf buildings. The fact that this story was thoroughly discredited back in November 2004 as a collusion of imaginative government lobbyists and lapdog media collaborators is completely omitted. Immediately before the Queen's speech Blair's government needed to inject a dose of fear into the political landscape in order to enable their ID card and anti-terror legislation to hit the ground running. So it was that two Daily Mail and ITN news journalists, renowned for fraternizing socially with Blair's hierarchy, met with government lobbyists to cook up the terror plot and it was reported a week later as bona fide news. At the time police and intelligence officials were baffled as to where the information had come from and totally distanced themselves from it. "To say we were surprised at the report is an understatement - this is the first we have heard of a plot like this." Another said: "No one has been charged for this so- called plot which suggests it never happened," said one. Even Labour's own Peter Hain, the Leader of the Commons, declared the so-called attack plot to be bogus. "Despite having the information for several days, and possibly longer than a week, the newspaper and television program held the stories until just before the Queen's Speech, which contained Bills to introduce an ID card, an FBI-style organised crime agency and other anti-terrorist measures," said the London Independent, noting the suspicious timing of the leak. In another bizarre parallel, an earlier May 2004 BBC Panorama documentary simulated a terror attack on Canary Wharf, causing many shocked viewers to believe the event was real, provoking hundreds of subsequent complaints. The fabled Canary Wharf plot is just one in a never ending deluge of phony terror alerts pumped out at politically expedient times in an attempt to quell dissent against a Blair government that can now only claim the support of 15% or less of the entire population. An alleged Al-Qaeda cell was arrested on suspicion of preparing to poison the London Underground with Ricin in January 2003. The government used the incident as a scare tactic to rally Britons behind the imminent war on Iraq. It was eventually disclosed that no Ricin was ever found and all the members of the supposed plot were released with no evidence or charges against them. In April 2004 police in Manchester arrested a group of Kurds and subsequent newspaper headlines claimed that they were an Al-Qaeda cell planning to bomb Old Trafford football stadium (pictured above). Their evidence for such a claim was based on police interviews with one of the individuals who had attended a Manchester United game two years previously. Simply because he had attended a football game because he supported the team, the tabloid newspapers invented the story that he was planning on bombing the stadium. All of the suspects, who ironically had come to Britain to escape the regime of Saddam Hussein, were released without charge and with no evidence against them. The London Guardian reported, "Of the 701 people arrested under the Terrorism Act since the September 11 attacks, half have been released without charge and only 17 convicted under the act. Only three of those cases relate to allegations of Islamist extremism." Despite this fact we are regularly bombarded with screaming headlines about mass terror sweeps, and it goes unmentioned that in nearly every case every so-called 'terrorist' is released with no evidence against them. The arrests are at the top of the evening news for days but there is no clarification or retraction when the suspects are set free. This leaves the viewer with the impression that terrorists are everywhere and that only a draconian police state can protect them against the threat. London Metropolitan police had to apologize for a bungled raid three weeks ago in which an innocent man was shot and no evidence of terrorism preparation was found at a Forest Gate home. The raid, which involved nearly 300 armed police, was based on the testimony of a retarded government informant.

I know.....my original article post was about Bush saying he wants to close the torture camp. But of course, he's doing this for his own public gain.

Yep, the first woman President??

And tell me why this is?

good call ^

Might aswell post this again....In an odd way I still find it very irritating....we should have stopped it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etuZ-MtGUVY&search=alex%20jones

I think Madonna said.... "I have truth on my side, You only have deceit You'll see, somehow, someday" LOL......just to clarify....it's just a lyric which I am applying to the situation....I am not a big madonna nerd....lol......nor do I think see is in any way insightful.

Mexican customs to be stationed in Kansas City New 'inland port' in heartland part of international plan that bypasses unions World Net Daily | June 21 2006 A Mexican customs office is being built in the U.S. heartland as part of a newly designed "inland port" facility that links with a Mexican seaport, an official in Kansas City confirms. Tasha Hammes of the Kansas City Area Development Council wrote to author and WND columnist Jerome Corsi to correct some details of a column on the subject, but she affirmed that a key purpose of the Kansas City Inland Port, or SmartPort, will be to facilitate the movement of containers from the Far East through the Mexican port at Lazaro Cardenas rather that the West Coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. Corsi also had written that Kansas City Southern had acquired Mexican railroads to create a "NAFTA Railroad" that would link Lazaro Cardenas to the U.S. for container transport. Hammes explained that with American consumption of goods from the Far East increasing, U.S. coastal ports are at capacity. "The Lazaro Cardenas port is providing an alternative way to get products to North America," she said. "These products will come to Kansas City by way of rail. This is nothing new, other than the fact that Kansas City Southern acquired the Mexican railroad serving this port and that the major work has been done on the port of Lazaro Cardenas so that it has higher capacity and can handle larger containers." Hammes pointed out that the Kansas City SmartPort is "a non-profit organization, not a physical building or facility being built for Mexico." Hammes confirmed Kansas City plans to house a Mexican customs facility in the city's port, but she pointed out it will handle outbound U.S. freight exclusively, not inbound. Hammes clarified that Kansas City, Mo., is leasing the site to Kansas City SmartPort. It will not be leased to any Mexican government agency or be sovereign territory of Mexico. "It will employ both U.S. and Mexican Customs officials just like the current facilities in place at our nation's borders," she said. "It's a facility that U.S. companies will use to expedite the process of shipping their goods to customers in Mexico." A brochure on the Kansas City SmartPort website documents the connection between Lazaro Cardenas and Kansas City's decision to become America's number one "inland port," saying: "Kansas City offers the opportunity for sealed cargo containers to travel to Mexican port cities with virtually no border delays. It will streamline shipments from Asia and cut the time and labor costs associated with shipping through the congested ports on the West Coast." Corsi contends a main purpose of opening Lazaro Cardenas to receive a greater volume of containers from the Far East and linking it with the planned NAFTA Super-Corridor and Kansas City SmartPort is to reduce labor costs. Longshoremen would not be employed at the port of Lazaro Cardenas, and, in Mexico, the employees of Kansas City Southern would not be United Transportation Union workers. To the extent that Mexican trucks become involved in the operation, it would mean Teamster Union drivers would not be employed in the operation. Hammes made no comment on this aspect of Corsi's column. To speed the crossing at Laredo, Texas, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America working groups within the U.S. Department of Commerce will allow Mexican trucks to be equipped with electronic FAST technology so the trucks can cross the border in express lanes. At the Kansas City SmartPort hub, the containers can be transferred to semi-trailers heading east or west, or simply stay on the Mexican trucks all the way into Canada. According to the SmartPort website, in March 2005, Kansas City signed a cooperative pact with representatives from the Mexican state of Michoacan, where Lazaro Cardenas is located, to increase the cargo volume between Lazaro Cardenas and Kansas City. Shipments will be pre-screened in Southeast Asia, and the shipper will send advance notification to Mexican and American Customs with the corresponding ''pre-clearance'' information on the cargo. Upon arrival in Mexico, containers will pass through multiple X-ray and gamma ray screenings, allowing any containers with anomalies to quickly be removed for further inspection. Container shipments will be tracked using intelligent transportation systems, or ITS, that could include global positioning systems or radio frequency identification systems, and monitored on their way to inland trade-processing centers in Kansas City and elsewhere in the United States. As the Kansas City SmartPort website boasts: ''Kansas City offers the opportunity for sealed cargo containers to travel to Mexican port cities with virtually no border delays. It will streamline shipments from Asia and cut the time and labor costs associated with shipping through the congested ports on the West Coast.''

Closing Gitmo Won't End Bushlag Archipelago Token gesture is political stunt and a drop in the ocean Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 22 2006 Exactly four months ago this website reported the following. "Developments over the past few days indicate that the Bush administration may be on the verge of announcing the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. If this happens it will be a token political gesture and the worldwide torture and rendition program will not cease." Certain quarters of the media and global humanitarian groups are heralding the stand down of George W. Bush after he gave a speech outlining US plans to close down Guantanamo Bay. Here is a list of things closing Gitmo won't end as the post-9/11 mentality Bushlag Archipelago thunders on. - Closing Gitmo won't end the existence of countless secret CIA prisons in former Soviet gulags in Eastern Europe and the policy of firing anybody who blows the whistle about them. - Closing Gitmo won't aid the plight of 70-90% of Iraqis who are arrested, hooded, and thrown into prison camps for the crime of not showing their papers at checkpoints. - Closing Gitmo doesn't answer why the US government has a penchant for torturing innocents while releasing known terrorists. - Closing Gitmo will not stop an estimated 1000 detainees a month who are being tortured to death in Iraq, according to former UN human rights chief dropped John Pace. - Closing Gitmo won't bring to justice the architects of the worldwide Copper Green torture policy immediately following the war on Afghanistan. - Closing Gitmo won't put a stop to the global rendition policy whereby the US government uses European countries as a halfway house before shipping accused terrorists to countries where torture is commonplace. Closing Gitmo does nothing to offset that fact that, as the London Guardian reported, Afghanistan is "one huge US jail," and "the hub of a global network of detention centres, the frontline in America's 'war on terror', where arrest can be random and allegations of torture commonplace." - Closing Gitmo won't end the program of armed dawn raids on innocent people smeared as terrorists based on the testimony of retarded government informants and the shoot-to-kill policy adopted by western law enforcement. - Closing Gitmo won't prevent citizens of European countries being grabbed off the streets by globetrotting CIA kidnapping squads. - Closing Gitmo won't end the promotion of torture as a virtue so long as it is committed by 'coalition forces' - even so far as presidential advisors condoning crushing the genitals of children to extract information from terrorist suspects. - Closing Gitmo won't unravel the US government's policy of creating de facto terrorist cells by entrapment and phony allegations that later collapse in court. - Closing Gitmo won't unravel the British government's policy of creating de facto terrorist cells by entrapment and phony allegations that later collapse in court. - Closing Gitmo won't unravel the Canadian government's policy of creating de facto terrorist cells by entrapment and phony allegations that later collapse in court. - Closing Gitmo won't end the suffering of countless Falun Gong practitioners in China, the victims of macabre live organ harvesting procedures, at the hands of a Communist autocracy the Bush administration and the American media has done nothing other than cosy up to. - Closing Gitmo won't halt contracts given to Halliburton by the US government to build internment camps in America for political dissidents. Closing Gitmo won't change any of these things.

Listen, until recently Dr Steven Jones was a faithful supporter of George W. Bush. He's not trying to cover anything up or make up new things....he's saying it as it is. And you just can't prove what he says wrong. You can say "I don't believe it" but you can't say it's wrong because it's pretty water tight. Obviously the documents released by the government are going to clear them of blame.... Dr Steven E. Jones' paper — written by an actual professor who works at an actual research university — has made him a celebrity in the conspiracy universe. He is now co-chairman of a group called the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes about 50 professors from institutions like Clemson University, the University of Minnesota, and the University of Wisconsin.

Yes, this is ALL about government Not about the public (although only we have the power to change things)....but the reason why we are getting fucked over, day by day is because of a hijacked government. It's absolutely crazy that I hear people like Nik talk about America having GOOD democratic system and saying really silly things like "the fact the left is widely hated by most americans shows this"....what a shame people are this blind. There isn't many more words to describe the monumental crap which is polluting the minds of people like Nik (sorry to keep using you as an example)..., I'm just glad I know plenty of people who are clever enough to see the real picture.... Really Nik, for your own sake, you better wise up....it's gonna send you mad when you realise you were sort of on the side of some real evil bastards......you should be able to see it already.....really.....it's clear as day. For all the stupid comments you have made against the things I have said, I still actually want you in particular to work out the truth.......your being wholly screwed by the neo-con propaganda machine and your buying every sick inch of it..... And again, YOU actually can't be blamed for it....because it's been engineered this way. It's been pumped into the minds of people that individuals who question the Government are bad and evil terrorists..... It's all going wrong and it's obviously wrong.....

It is....and when you think a hurricane can be severly weakend with the use of silver iodide in the top part of the cloud.....why is this never done?

Yeah, I read this on the BBC News site. I still don't get why this is news because as it says above....I can pretend to be any age when signing up.

Yeah, those people in silly cults are funny people.....scientologists spring to mind.

there's millions of us pal.

Just think of the great things us humans could acheive if we were't being led down a path of destruction by a group of scared, greedy, power-hungry scum. It's all about keeping the free mind in a cage and forcing us to work as thier slaves while they keep all the technology advances for themselves, the few. And remember they are 'the few' and we need to start to take the earth, our home, back. It's for the benefit of those in the future....our children and our childrens children.......really....it's getting worse every day....and this is all by design...it's how the globalist elite have planned it. It all does sound dramatic doesn't it. Well it won't feel so dramatic when things go even further down the pan.

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