They provide funny moments though....

 

I remember walking past a house that they were knocking at and noone was answering the door and I saw some guy looked through the curtains on the second floor, it was hilarious.

You can't call them freaks for what they believe in. It's their lives...and their beliefs. You can't just judge them like that. If they really are Jehoves Witnesses-they accept every part of it and understand every part of it.

Same goes for Catholics, Budists etc...just because you disagree...

 

I mean...tolerance.

 

 

That is the smartest think I have read around here in the longest time.

 

 

And I think that is so funny how these Witnesses who would give their life for their beliefs are ridiculed by the same people who expect respect for their beliefs/religion/confessions.

 

And these same people who find Witnesses a humorous people, claim to hold morals, when in reality, they are just being plain ol hypocrites.

 

 

Now.

 

I was a Jehovah's Witness for ten of my eighteen years of life...studied and baptized actually. Not anymore. I couldn't live to their standards and such.

My whole family still attends to that religion.

 

And I do still hold a high respect for these people and their religion because I know all about it... it has shown to be a pretty darn good one. I still know a good deal about the Bible, thanks to those studies.

It "raises" good citizens that keep to themselves. Don't harm a fly, yet they are still criticized. I will never understand why.

 

 

Shame on those of you who criticize that which you don't understand. It's called ignorance, so I guess I have to let that slide. :wink:

I really wanted to write something smart here, but my english is too bad :P

 

So I say only, that I'm very tolerant. I'm an atheist and I have nothing against religions etc. But this rules in this Jehova-religion are very very weird, and I don't understand them. It's illogical! That's why I don't believe in any gods and all this funny religious stuff.

My aunt wanted to let her son die, because her religion doesn't agree with blood transfusion. IT'S VERY WEIRD, STUPID AND ILLOGICAL. And that's my opinion...

Did you even care to hear an explaination? I bet not. And even if you did, you could never comprehend it. I am totally against blood transfusions as well. Because of a religious sense AND a scientific sense.

 

 

SO? you disagree with it...but never ever call something stupid because that is far below the tolerance you claim to have.

No, I didn't hear an explanation. And even if i did, I couldn't understand it, because it's illogical.

 

This was the only one way to rescue my cousin and his own mother dont wanted to agree...

 

I just don't understand any religions, it's illogical to believe in any creature stronger than other. The word "God" has no sense for me.

Okay.

What's with the door to door preaching?

Oh btw, I didn't read explanation about blood transfusion, so anyone care to explaine?

the door to door thing...its kinda like a pope..and how he congregates millions and millions to let them hear what he has to say.

Only witnesses do it in a door to door way...the way Jesus Christ and his disciples did.

Basically, Jesus serves for them as a guide of what they should do. He preached and left it said to them that they should preach too.

 

Doesn't anyone acutally read the bible?

 

It's all there.

But the Bible is interpreted in sooo many ways.

And what's with blood transfusion?

the door to door thing...its kinda like a pope..and how he congregates millions and millions to let them hear what he has to say.

Only witnesses do it in a door to door way...the way Jesus Christ and his disciples did.

Basically, Jesus serves for them as a guide of what they should do. He preached and left it said to them that they should preach too.

 

Doesn't anyone acutally read the bible?

 

It's all there.

If I remember correctly Jesus preached in the open.

He would usually sit around a nice rock, and talk about nice stories, I don't remember Him going from one door to another offering salvation.

They believe that blood is sacred...because Jesus used his blood in sacrifice for us.

So they don't take blood transfusions lightly AT ALL ..as many of you have noted.

 

They think it would be a sin if they had blood transfused intrevenously or through any other way either.

 

BUT you must know that this is purely a matter of conscience... a PURE blood transfusion would be (in their religion) considered wrong. BUT if its like platelets or white blood cells and such...this is up the an individual Witness. They even fill out these complicated No Blood cards to put in wallets and purses...after they have made an individual decision. There are TONS of alternatives that Witnesses consider and all have to be studied before they make the choice.

 

But parents of younger children...well I suppose the parents make that desicion...however wrong it may seem to most of the world. . . parents are only making those anti-blood desisions based on what their beliefs are.

 

 

I think its easier to describe if I use other religions to describe things...because it would make things easier to understand.

Muslim circumcise their females ...but not ALL Muslims. It is a matter of choice based on their interpretation of the Koran. And some Muslims choose just how much and how they get circumcized. It's all left up the an individual.

 

This is just one of many issues.

If I remember correctly Jesus preached in the open.

He would usually sit around a nice rock, and talk about nice stories, I don't remember Him going from one door to another offering salvation.

 

Witnesses do not offer salvation. It's not up to them to point out who and who gets "saved". They simply offer bible studies. After that, the disicion is yours...

 

Jesus DID preach in the open. But if you read what the bible says, there was that instance when Jesus sent his disciples in pairs and actually sent them to people's doors.

For example...a text known popularly by them but not the best ( I don't remember many others anymore)

 

it's actually ...pretttty clear:

 

5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

 

11"Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. 16I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

 

so they preached in towns and at homes.

 

People just exaggerate things because they never really listen. And there is absolutely NO reason to be rude. They are just people like you and me...with different minds and beliefs like you and me (comment not directed just to you Bijeli_Mis)

Well isn't that circumcision just in rural parts of Africa, I know quite a few muslims, and at least here on Balkans I heard of no female circumcision.

Anyway I just wanted to point out some things, without getting into discussion of how justified theese practices are.

If J.W. don't want to be considered silly or boring or whatever, then they should be tolerant of other views on life.Nobody else if imposing their views on J.W.(atlest not in a direct way) so what do they expect when they keep doing it.And again, I know it's a matter of what they belive, but who wouldn't get angry if parents let their kid die, just because they think Jesus would disapprove blood transfusion(not to mention there wasn't such thing as blood transfusion 2000 years ago).

After all, we agree to disagree, that is what tolerance is all about.

Well isn't that circumcision just in rural parts of Africa, I know quite a few muslims, and at least here on Balkans I heard of no female circumcision.

Anyway I just wanted to point out some things, without getting into discussion of how justified theese practices are.

If J.W. don't want to be considered silly or boring or whatever, then they should be tolerant of other views on life.Nobody else if imposing their views on J.W.(atlest not in a direct way) so what do they expect when they keep doing it.And again, I know it's a matter of what they belive, but who wouldn't get angry if parents let their kid die, just because they think Jesus would disapprove blood transfusion(not to mention there wasn't such thing as blood transfusion 2000 years ago).

After all, we agree to disagree, that is what tolerance is all about.

 

 

in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq..many middle eastern countries...whereever there are Muslims..that is an issue...prolly not so much American Muslims...but yes. And circumcision isn't a topic many people WOULD hear about in day to day conversation...its kinda iffy.

 

Of course there wasn't blood transfusions way back then...but even still, the blood was said to be sacred. That is just the interpretation they chose. And as sure as you say, people will disagree with the things they believe in as is with any thing anyone does. They don't impose ideas. They only reason people feel like its an annoyance is because they have their own life to deal with. And that is okay.

 

But I am just as annoyed with little girls who come up to my house once a month selling girls scout cookies, or fundraisers of other nature. J.W's don't jazz things up the way people would like it...so its as annoying as commercials to them ( I would know, I've knocked on hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of doors when I was one.)

 

I guess I could actually tell you that after I knew this "message of God" I felt in me a fervor to spread the word so that everyone could know the "truth"...this is a popular reaction from many J.W.

if anyone could underdstand that...they would see it as doing a favor. They don't see it as an annoyance (people's general reaction).

 

 

And while I could laugh at many other religions for their rediculous and contradictory beliefs. ... I will keep those things to myself. Because I really am tolerant. I would never out loud (and I try to keep my mind in check as well) say mean things either in ignorance of savance about another person's religios belief. This is a really wrong thing to do.

it's actually ...pretttty clear:

 

5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel

I noticed this post after I already answered to the previous.As I said it's all matter of interpretation, otherwise christians would be united(and muslim, budhists and any other religion which has denominations).

See this quote could suggest that J.w. should operate only among the jews, or since Jesus said it, that J.w. should only preach to other christians.

Well that's about all I had to say, and I also belive people can discuss things without getting personal or anything.

yeah...that's not what this thread is really about. No one wants to start a full blown discussion with me anyway.