Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Coldplaying

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Some Britons up in arms over `Bin Brother' - 500,000 Bins are Bugged with Chips....

Featured Replies

.........and not the type of Chips you get with Fish!

 

Some Britons up in arms over `Bin Brother'

 

Liz Ruskin

McClatchy Newspapers

Thursday, February 22, 2007

 

LONDON - The British tolerate millions of surveillance cameras watching their every public move. They agreed to let roadside cameras record their vehicular movements and store the information for two years. But when they discovered that their garbage is being bugged, they howled that Big Brother had gone too far.

 

Local governments have attached microchips to some 500,000 "wheelie bins," the trashcans that residents wheel to the curb for collection. The aim, they say, is to help monitor collections and boost the national recycling rate, now among the lowest in Europe.

The public has reacted with suspicion and fury.

 

"Germans Plant Bugs in Our Wheelie Bins," a Daily Mail headline announced in August. Two of the bin manufacturers are German. Newspaper letter writers have taken to calling it "Bin Brother."

 

Small-scale revolts have erupted across the United Kingdom for months, as different localities adopt the technology. Some towns failed to mention the new feature, which is concealed under coin-sized plugs under the rims of their garbage cans.

 

In the coastal city of Bournemouth, 72-year-old Cyril Baker ripped the chip off his new bin the day he discovered it, then went on national television to show how he did it. Thousands of his neighbors followed his example. "It was a very emotional issue. The whole town was in an uproar," he said.

 

"I think people really see this as an intrusion into their personal space," said Bournemouth councilman Nick King, a champion of the anti-chip cause.

 

Residents also fear that the little bug will nip them in the wallet. The microchips - radio frequency identification transmitters known as RFID tags - can't actually spy on the contents of a bin. They're more like tiny digital nametags, but they hold lots of information and can be scanned from yards away.

 

Bournemouth administrators swear that they intend only to monitor trash trends and return lost bins to their assigned homes. Other cities said they wanted to identify heavy heapers to advise them on better rubbish management.

 

But residents suspect a plan to levy charges for garbage hauling, and some local officials have acknowledged that's their long-term aim.

 

The Orwellian aspect has been blown out of proportion, chip supporters say. "People think it's Big Brother watching them, and it's not. It's a system for weighing rubbish," said David Peel, the communications manager for South Norfolk Council, which has a bin chip project under way.

 

Civil libertarians worry about a day when every object has an embedded RFID tag, and people don't know who's tracking their trash.

 

Put this technology in the hands of sanitation workers and it won't stop at just weighing the garbage, predicts Chris McDermott, an anti-RFID activist.

 

"Before you know it, they'll be scanning the actual products, wrappers and other detritus that you throw away inside the bin, as these are also scheduled to be RFID-enabled in the near future," he warns on his Web site,

www.notags.co.uk.

 

Not likely, said Andy Shaw, the business manager of Cambridge Auto-ID Lab, a university research center that's developing new uses for radio frequency tags.

 

The lab, according to its Web site, is creating a system that will enable computers to identify "any object anywhere in the world instantly." But Shaw thinks, "nobody is going to pay to put readers onto garbage trucks that can read everything. It's just too expensive."

Anyway, Big Brother doesn't have to resort to scanning your garbage to know what you own, not with store loyalty cards and credit cards so abundant, Shaw joked.

 

As the furor grows over microchips in rubbish barrels, cameras are proliferating.

In Bournemouth, Liberal Democrats battle Conservatives over who's done more to expand camera surveillance. The city, with a population of 164,000, operates more than 75 cameras in the town center. Jim Klegg, Bournemouth's street enforcement manager, announced this month that film footage will be used to help prosecute for littering, "which includes dropping cigarette butts and chewing gum," he said.

 

How to explain the enthusiasm for a vast and expanding network of cameras? King, the Bournemouth representative, said the experience of being monitored is rather British.

"Inherently, we're quite happy to be watched when we're out and about, because we feel if someone is watching us they can help us," he said. "But there's a line we draw around the home."

 

Kate Fox, a London anthropologist who studies the English, sees it that way, too.

 

Surveillance may seem futuristic, but she maintains that it re-creates, in the English mind, the modern equivalent of the pre-industrial hamlet, where neighbors knew one another's business.

 

"We rather like that sense that we're being looked after," she said. "It makes us feel secure."

 

Yet when it concerns the home, the English are obsessed with privacy, she said, and microchipping the wheelie bins must seem like a breach of the moat.

 

"The Englishman's home really is his castle, and I guess our rubbish bin is part of it," she said.

Does this surveillance have anything to do with "Bin" Laden??:rolleyes:

  • Author
Welcome to last August when the bin-chips were first discovered ;)

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33808&highlight=bin+bugs

 

It's a crap idea the "charges per kg of waste you bin" because it will:

1 - in Towns, neighbours dumping rubbish in your bin

2 - An increase in fly tripping

3 - An increase of burning of rubbish.

 

Yeah, I remember when this story first broke. I actually meant to write that it was a returning story.

In London I fell victim to fly tipping. My back garden was used as a dump for full trees, paving stones and other rubbish. It wasn't hard to work out that my new neighbours were to blame as I obviously could see into their garden where they had removed all the stones, dirt, trees, plastic shed windows and asbestos tiles.

I got angry (but I didn't show it) as they just ignored me and played dumb - saying that they couldn't understand English very well (which I knew was a 100% lie).

They tried to accuse me of racism after I said that I know it's a popular thing around here for families from the middle-east to do (tarmac over the garden) but it does not mean that they could just dump it onto my property.

The police got involved and they played the racism card again....which was complete crap.

I simply pointed out all the other gardens that had been paved over since I started living there and that I didn't see those people (Asian & Polish) dump their rubbish on others - so why should they do it to me. It was an completely valid point.

Anyway, after all the shouting by my neighbours and the calm common sense by myself we ended up finding out that they didn't want to pay a large fee to the council for them to come and take it all away. The Police then told my neighbours to clear it all up and to either burn all the stuff or pay up.

That's right - Burn it all!

This of course was exactly what happened and I then suffered 2 weeks of extremely dodgy fires with even more dodgy smoke that filtered through my house. The streets were terraced so it was close.

The Police weren't much use as they were the ones who suggested the stupid idea and all attempts to ask them to move the fire away slightly just ended up with my neighbours shouting rubbish about how the police know about it and it's all alright.

I had lost patience and I was very glad that I actually was moving from the area within a month.

Ok, "personal story of the day, which nobody really needs to know" is over.

Create an account or sign in to comment

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.