I was talking on my cell phone walking to class, when i got to the crosswalk there was a cop with a M16 telling everyone to go home. Apparently some dude was on campus with a gun and they had a ton of sheriff's and a helicopter looking for him and were checking everyone's cars.

 

"E-mail message sent to SFCC students and faculty:

 

Subject: gunman reported at SFCC NW campus

 

GUNMAN REPORTED AT SFCC NORTHWEST CAMPUS

 

A man displayed a handgun at the Santa Fe Community College Northwest Campus Food Court at approximately 12 p.m. noon Tuesday, February 19. The weapon was not used.

 

The individual is reported to be an African American male with a dark complexion, approximately 5 feet five inches in height with a medium build, wearing a green and brown striped shirt with baggy blue shorts that reach his ankles.

 

A man fitting the description of this individual was reported five minutes later at the SFCC Gym without incident. There are no other reports on this individual.

 

SFCC Police officers responded at the scene and called the Alachua County Sheriff’s Office, which is responding to the Northwest Campus.

 

All students and employees are urged to exercise caution. Do not approach this individual.

 

Updates will be sent as soon as possible"

thats really scary. What school?

Santa fe community college

What the hell's going on in the world!!!?!?! Is it just way too easy to buy a gun these days?!?!:shocked2:

there seems to be a lot of incidents like that happening in the U.S. recently. Hopefully they catch the person.

I doubt he bought the gun legally. He didnt shoot anyone, at least not that ive heard of, so it sounds like he was probably showing off with it...

Wow..that's quite bad!

 

There were some polices over my sister's & brother's school today 'cause someone had written a message somewhere saying that on 4th of April he/she'll kill everyone. Lots of this happening lately..

yeah, yuo never know the motives.

Wow..that's quite bad!

 

There were some polices over my sister's & brother's school today 'cause someone had written a message somewhere saying that on 4th of April he/she'll kill everyone. Lots of this happening lately..

 

Yeah, it seems like every few weeks someone kills someone on a college campus, I just hope that does not happen today at my school.(or any other school)

Does your school have an emergency text message service like some schools? Or do they just send security bulletins via e-mail?

don't even get me STARTED on gun control in the US. i just want to flip a shit every single time i hear one of these stories, because to me the solution (or at least the way to drastically decrease the number) is so damn obvious.

 

at my old school/highschool, i always felt so safe. that place was my home and i grew up there for 13 years. but now that i'm at a new uni that i dont know so well, and now that i dont know every nook and cranny of campus and every single student that goes here, it really freaks me out. i feel so much more vulnerable at uni than i did at highschool.

thats terrible... whoever gets in office next needs to increase university security

Does your school have an emergency text message service like some schools? Or do they just send security bulletins via e-mail?

 

Email

don't even get me STARTED on gun control in the US. i just want to flip a shit every single time i hear one of these stories, because to me the solution (or at least the way to drastically decrease the number) is so damn obvious.

 

at my old school/highschool, i always felt so safe. that place was my home and i grew up there for 13 years. but now that i'm at a new uni that i dont know so well, and now that i dont know every nook and cranny of campus and every single student that goes here, it really freaks me out. i feel so much more vulnerable at uni than i did at highschool.

 

The problem is the solution is near impossible, you can't get rid of guns, you out law them and people will buy them illegally, as we've seen in the US when you make something illegal it makes it more popular. Like i said before, i bet the gun the guy had was bought illegally....

 

That is why im not for gun control, it wouldnt change anything. I bet most guns used in crimes are illegal ones anyways...

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Terrorists everywhere these days!

^Nah, look in the UK you're not allowed to have guns and is there a lot of gun violence? Not as much as in the US for sure. ...

 

Look at huge difference in culture....

 

the town with the lowest crime level is the town where guns are required. I not sure but I bet the Uk controls its borders well...in america since so many want a open border smuggling weapons in is VERY easy...If i was not broke i could go out and get a illegal gun. If we wanted to do something we'd have to make them illegal and tightly control imported goods and the border.

 

Bottom line it's next to impossible to keeps guns out, you can make them illegal and people would just buy them illegally and in larger numbers.

an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of hospitalization..

 

I'm beginning to think that every culture lives with it's past, as a living legacy. So, here's it's a gun culture; personal weapons were the norm on the frontier, the US was the frontier, and those family traditions go on indefinitely. True, Bill was telling me that when he lived in 6-shooter junction, TX, that there was no crime, and everyone was armed to the teeth. But then, the criminals lived there too - they just did their "business" elsewhere! This was also true of mob families - 'business' was conducted in Chicago, and they lived in the quiet suburbs. So, I wonder about "safe" communities that have laws about being armed..

Somehow, I just get tired of the idea of having to lug around a luger. And not all crimes are of the robbery sort. We see a fair number of domestic shootings in homes here - so it's not all that it seems to be. I don't claim to have the answer, but for every place it's different, based on what works best for those people living there.

We do have the right to keep and bear arms, but then that assumes every citizen should belong to a local, regional, or state militia - that was in the late 1700's! Guns were a necessity then - regional conflicts were common and game had to be hunted for survival.

I guess it boils down more to reducing the odds of someone becoming violent in the first place - be they attacking with knives, guns, or autos, it's basically accidents, uncontrolled rage, power-trippers, or suicidal tendencies that seems to drive the bad behavior. Parents that love & care, that set good examples, and teach basic reasoned moral principles do the best to prevent the problems. That, and reducing poverty by offering meaningful work, and holding higher values than materialism makes a big big difference.

Some have no bearings in reality, because they never learned to love and have empathy at a young age; others get involved in gangs as a way to "measure up" and feel accepted; some simply see something and try it, not realizing the dangers of what they could do by accident (I have a friend who badly damaged a kneecap when a gun went off in his pocket - basically, kids going target practicing, and not being careful..)

One of the shootings at schools I had heard about occurred because someone who had off-the wall para-military parents takes a reading of Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet too literally, has a break-up, and does the unthinkable; Others are because of anger and resentment over rejection (one Adolf Hitler comes to mind..).

But then again, we study the classic tragedies, so one wonders about humanity at times..:dozey:

Anyhow, I'm putting my bets on understanding, compassion, learning, correction before tragedy, and the tiddly-pom principle.;) The more we are inclusive, understanding, and generally positive, and don't let bad tendencies grow, the better off we all are.

Ok so apparently it was a argument over a card game, and the guy won some money but the other kid wouldn't pay him so he pulled a gun....and then i heard he ran to his apartment and hid until the police found him...what a fucking retard.

 

http://www.news4jax.com/news/15344000/detail.html

The problem is the solution is near impossible, you can't get rid of guns, you out law them and people will buy them illegally, as we've seen in the US when you make something illegal it makes it more popular. Like i said before, i bet the gun the guy had was bought illegally....

 

That is why im not for gun control, it wouldnt change anything. I bet most guns used in crimes are illegal ones anyways...

I disagree with you.

If you look at Europe or Canada, or Australia... you'll see that in those places there's a more restrict law on the subject and there isn't as much gun violence as there is in USA. So I believe if something changed in US law maybe less children/teenagers would go to schools and Univs and shoot their collegues and teachers.

We had a sort of debate about gun violence in the US (after what happened in Illinois last week) with our teacher (who's American). And before that I was strongly convinced that the right you, American people, have to bear arms was the main reason of such events. But I realised that maybe it wasnt just that. The thing is that if you really want to hurt/kill someone you'll always find a way even if you dont own a gun. That's not the gun which kills, it's the person who carries it who does. Arms are just instruments. You can hurt/kill with almost anything if you really determined and crazy enough. Dont get me wrong I'm not saying I'm for the right to own guns. It just seems that everybody's blaming guns but what about the society we're living in, the media and whatever ideology.. this world is just a mess and I dont know any government who's trying to change that!

And to conclude on the debate my teacher told us about Chris Rock's solution for the gun problem which is : to sell bullets for 5000$ each (I think it was 5000, I dont remember exactly. But what a great idea. So if you really really want to kill somebody you wont mind paying that amount of money !!)

I disagree with you.

If you look at Europe or Canada, or Australia... you'll see that in those places there's a more restrict law on the subject and there isn't as much gun violence as there is in USA. So I believe if something changed in US law maybe less children/teenagers would go to schools and Univs and shoot their collegues and teachers.

 

It all come back to the flow of goods, the only way it would work if we could control contraband in America...look at the drug wars, billions of dollars and i can still go out right now and buy a ton of coke if i wanted....

 

 

In american culture, if you make something illegal you make it more popular, thus it would have the opposite affect. and there is no way we can keep guns out of america, they'd be smuggled in through, canada, mexico and the sea ports.

 

You'd disarm the law abiding citizens and letting the criminals have weapons, and that would cause more death's.

I think several things are key. This may sound callous, but I think a lot of it has to do when you have extremes in income disparity. Poverty and despair, and an effort to have meaning, pushes some to turn to weapons as a choice for giving back to them a sense of pride in who they are. If young people or adults loose their sense of self-worth, all kinds of bad choices can occur.

So, violence happens when those with already low self-esteem slip even further into poverty, and loose what little dignity they have left. If they're left to fend for themselves on the streets (which does happen), and if they have few good influences or role models, they're getting bad thoughts.

Things of lesser significance, like loosing a job as a cook, or loosing a poker game, or loosing a girlfriend, can be the triggers to episodes of violence and lashing out at anyone nearby. And a gun, or knife - once the rage is on, it's too late to pull the bullet or blade back. That's what I think is happening - it's really about human nature when in bad situations, some react angrily, and in haste do great harm. It may only happen rarely, but once it does, the consequences are horrific. I think it has more to do with our culture here, and less to do with whether or not guns are available. Two knifings in this area alone tell me more is afoot than just the gun violence.

I think its more in our culture, its all about you, individuality. Everyone is told they're the greatest better then everyone else, were a society of narcissist. If you believe you're the only thing that matter, you're going to do what you want, when you want and put anyone down in your way. I think that's the issue here, that and violence has been a part of our culture since our nation was founded.

^Nah, look in the UK you're not allowed to have guns and is there a lot of gun violence?

 

you shouldn't have taken the uk as an example. probably the worst country in europe when it comes to guncrime.

 

arent guns legal in canada?