Pseudonym Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Does anyone know how Jonny obtains that echoe-y sound? Like at the end of the Live 03 Life is for Living, and he also does it constant throughout Lovers in Japan. That tremolo-picking type of riff has some sort of sound effect that makes the note ring out very smoothly. Does anyone know what kind of effects he's using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat1229 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 For the end of Life is for Living he is likely using a shit load of reverb and I would guess also some kind of custom delay programmed into his Line6 DL4. The distortion on it sounds kinda like a tube screamer but he didn't have one of those back then to my knowledge so I would assume it was just a lower filter setting on his RAT (distortion pedal). As for Lovers In Japan it sounds alot different to me but maybe I'm thinking of a different part of the song than you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 For the end of Life is for Living he is likely using a shit load of reverb and I would guess also some kind of custom delay programmed into his Line6 DL4. The distortion on it sounds kinda like a tube screamer but he didn't have one of those back then to my knowledge so I would assume it was just a lower filter setting on his RAT (distortion pedal). As for Lovers In Japan it sounds alot different to me but maybe I'm thinking of a different part of the song than you are. Yeah that's what I was guessing. A heavy mix of distortion, reverb and delay. I guess I gotta just mess around with those combos. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat1229 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 One thing to remember so as not to discourage you is that the sound of an arena carries that sound a hell of alot better than your gonna get in your room or basement. In My Place is a prime example. You seem knowledgeable though, i'm sure you'll find a combo that works to satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 One thing to remember so as not to discourage you is that the sound of an arena carries that sound a hell of alot better than your gonna get in your room or basement. In My Place is a prime example. You seem knowledgeable though, i'm sure you'll find a combo that works to satisfaction. Yeah I know that. Maybe I could show you exactly what Im trying to get. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQG-OSu68mE ^In that video, the guitar from 3:06 to 3:47 (that echoey sound) is exactly what I need to get. If you can tell what that is it would really help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat1229 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I have a live video that I took at a Mat Kearney show of that song, just have to find it to take a listen how that sound is made live.... My initial impression is that to play that on guitar you need you need something that creates a hell of alot of sustain (like an e-bow). It is more likely that sound is MIDI or synth created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 I have a live video that I took at a Mat Kearney show of that song, just have to find it to take a listen how that sound is made live.... My initial impression is that to play that on guitar you need you need something that creates a hell of alot of sustain (like an e-bow). It is more likely that sound is MIDI or synth created. do you think good recording software like MusicMaker 14 which has a lot of features might have something that could edit that sound in? My band desperately needs that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakfak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 For the newer live performances, he seems to be relying(sp?) heavily on rack units, which in general, make deep layering of multiple effects easier than with pedals. I the LiJ uses the Eventide processor quite heavily, but am not certain of that. EDIT: The sound you want from the video, is as Bearcat said, most likely either synth or MIDI. the only thing I know of that sounds like that, (and is relatively readily available), are some of the Line 6 units. They're expensive, but anything else that can create that kind of echo-y sustain is probably in the realm of very high end professional gear. If you're really desperate to create such a sound on the cheap, you can try playing around with a tape delay (or modeler of one) to get a speeded up heavy delay and sustain combo. Of course, that won't really be cheap either and it won't sound exactly like what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eonblue22 Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 i think i know what you are talking about . i asked the same question about the intro to lovers in japan. he plays a ringing note then strums real fast and gets this heavy reverb sound that seems to go on forever. i have the line 6 pedals but cant replicate this sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm-Edge Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 You are having trouble because he is now using two Line 6 racks, and only one DL4. I suspect all new echos and reverbs are off of his rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakfak Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 LiJ is actually probably using the TC delays. They produce a distinct sound from the Line 6 units, and I think that's what I can hear in the recording. (live could be something else)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 I never buy from Line 6 anymore cuz they have sold me awful products. I am gonna probably get a Sustain pedal, and I can mix it with light distortion and my reverb and it may give me the sound I'm trying to obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm-Edge Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Line 6 is mediocer. I will always go Boss over Line 6. DD-20 is better than the DL4 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakfak Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 "Line 6 is mediocer. I will always go Boss over Line 6." I assume you're both talking about the Pod Multi FX Pedals. While I wouldn't go so far as to call them awful, they do have issues. However, if you're looking at a rack unit Line 6 is hands down the best you can get before you cross into super high end gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm-Edge Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Jons rack model is great. One day if I move into Rack they will defiantly be a possibility. I heard mixed reviews upon the DL4s durability. I know Boss pedals are great. I would never buy a Line 6 Stompbox. The dial in....you cant beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakfak Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 "I heard mixed reviews upon the DL4s durability." If you treat it with a basic level of care and respect, it holds up fine. If however, you're one of those people who expects your gear to withstand a multi story drop without a scratch, it's probably not for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm-Edge Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Im gentle with my pedals and guitars. I know i should treat it like a child and not drop it. I know pedals will withstand a basic drop, but not over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakfak Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 The thing people forget to keep in mind with pedals, is that they're complicated pieces of equipment. No matter how well designed/built they are they can only take so much abuse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm-Edge Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 They are tiny little computers at your foot. People really need to learn to treat them right. If they break 'em its only their money they are wasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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