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You are far from stupid. Oh, and I :heart: you

right on.

Camille:kiss: I :heart: you so much. It has been way to long my dear:)

Alright Nick. I am not a blind when it comes to Obama. Who did you vote for in the election? I voted for who I thought would advance my place in this world the best. As a gay man that hope rests in Obama. I vote mostly based on social issues. That is all. If you want to think me naive. Go for it. I cannot entertain this discussion any more. As I have said before. If we could talk this out it would go much better. I have toooooooooooooo much to say to write it out. I can't search for facts and shit right now because I do not have time and fankly, I really don't care. You're a good guy Nick. Let's let it go. Peace, Aaron

Sure the Economy improved, then Bush Sr. picked up that start of the recession he created. Reagan was a great president though in many respects. There is no way in hell I would have voted for him though.

What's your point Space?

I had no issues with invading Afghanistan. Bin Ladin was there. The taliban would not give him up. I got pissed at Bush starting with Iraq. You are right though that most people hated him from day one.

I guess I'm not cool enough to know what that means. Damn.

i did read. thanks. He compares religion to sexuality. Why don't you read...

um. actually, I was cool with Bush until Iraq. ok.

I think I need to make one thing clear here. I DO not like how Obama is running the country right now. Obama is not really doing what I had hoped he would do. I do not have the time to fact check the stats you threw at me so I will give you credit where it is due. However, My one and only point, the thing that really makes me so fucking stressed is when people(Republicans mostly and sometimes you, no offense:) )pile all of this shit on Obama and say he is worse than Bush. I, in my partisan bullshit liberal crazy wacky mind think he is doing as good a job as he can given the cards he was dealt. NO, I don't like his increase in war spending, NO I don't like his nose being stuck in South American affairs. NO, I don't like how he wants to go and pass this health care bill without really working out a solution that people can really be happy with. And Nick, come on dude, you know damn well we will never be a communist/socialist country. That is pure scare tactic propaganda that you are falling for. We will never go down that road and you know it so stop throwing around that Obama is hanging out with Commies. I could give a fuck if he is. Whatever. Bush was friends with the Bin Ladin's remember. Anyway man, we are not ever going to see eye to eye politically, ever. It is fun debating with you and I am sorry that I lose my cool sometimes. It is so hard for me to write a lot. Verbal debate is much better for me. I can say much more that way. Peace dude!

Josh, I respect your response. Just a question. Do you think that people "choose" to be gay? You choose religion. Not your sexuality.

Sweet:blush:

I :heart: you

Reagan will always be a douche in my opinion for two reasons. Iran Contra and his complete and hateful mishandling of the AIDS crisis.

Nick, you say that I am practicing partisan politics. You my friend, seem to do the same thing. You have never brought up anything positive abotu Obama even thought it exists. I at least can give Bush some credit for certain things. I do not think he was all that bad. What is interesting is that you quickly blame Obama more for conitnuing some of Bush's same policies. Surely you understand how much Obama had on his plate as he took office. All you do is shit on him from day one, day one dude with only your opinion to back you up. Give me some facts(not your libertarian or glenn beck shit) but real facts. Obama had cut defense spending. How is that an increase in war slending. And again, BUSH put us in Afghanistan then took his eye of the prize to go into Iraq where we had no business going in the first place. We are still trying to find Bin Ladin. Is that ok with you dude. That's why Obama is back in Afghanistan in the first place. And yes, presidents all do some shady shit, I just love how you crucify Obama. Your economy argument is flawed. Was it not Bush who was still in office when the floor got pulled out of the Economy last September. The stock market has gone back up since Obama took over. Unemployment is easing is some parts of the country. The economy is not in free fall like it was. Who in the hell are you listening or doing your "research" to tell you that Obama has fucked up the economy worse than Bush. Oh, and it takes far more than 8 months to fuck up an economy. I may be partisan, but I admit it. You pretend not to be yet support yourself with slanted news pieces.

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I am a cheesaholic. You really hate all cheese Nick. Come on, you've got to like cheese on or in something. Pizza, burger, pasta?

twitter sucks

Gareth, I think you raise some really great points in this thread. Don't worry about the people that give you shit for your beliefs. Although I believe some of what you say. I almost have to hope that it's not true so I can continue to live in denial and think that my country wouldn't do something so horrific. Keep fighting the fight.

Definitely agree!

Reagan will always be a douche in my opinion for two reasons. Iran Contra and his complete and hateful mishandling of the AIDS crisis.

At work so can't stay on for very long but I need to address some bullshit being spewed in this thread. No offense Nick and Josh but damn guys it's like you all have this support group of people that are against Obama and shoot down any and all pro-obama talk in an instant. For fuck sake, the guy has not even been in office for a year and you all judge him. And Nick, REALLY, Obama is 100X worse than Bush or Hitler or Stalin. WTF. Please tell me you are kidding. Bush is responsible for tens of thousands of dead Iraqi's. Stalin killed millions of Russiand, Hitler millions of Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies. How in the hell can you even compare Obama. Don't forget Nick, that he is trying to finish up Bush's bullshit war that BUSH started in the first place. Hello, where were you in 2003? Secondly, Bush fucked up the environmental movement allowing companies to buy their way out of polluting the air that we breath. You then foolishly bring up Obama breaching our constitutional rights. What? Really? Um, how about bush's patriot act. The ACLU filed how many law suits for people that were illegally held against their will by the U.S. with no proof of wrongdoing. Due process out the window. The rich got richer and the poor got pooer under Bush. Tax cuts for the rich. That was Bush. Record surplus to a record deficit. That was Bush. You all seem to think that Obama inherited this great economy and that there was no war and everything was sunshine. He is trying to pick up the mess that bush helped create. You all hide behind the banner of "we hate bush too" just so you can bash Obama. You try being president for a day and get back to me. Peace!

Great movie. My only complaint is that it felt like half a movie. Much more needs to be expalined.

That's true Mark.