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Man, I can't believe I'm the one defending fragrances here. I'm the one with all the nasty sensitivities. :thinking: Yeah, it's something like that. I guess they think that if someone smells really good it's supposed to mean that they're biologically compatible or something. Whatever it is, you'd better believe that fragrance manufacturers spend hundreds of millions trying to find ways to mimic that. I do have male friends who can be very bluntly honest. I have a quarter of a clue how men's brains can work. And there's a difference between a guy being momentarily distracted and being a pervert. The pervert actually looks. I think I'm beginning to see the roadblock in this conversation.

Yay for willful misunderstanding. And because as long as you're not vain about it, girls notice. Would James Bond be James Bond if he didn't know what a dinner jacket was?

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:dozey::rolleyes: All I'm saying is that many guys notice, even the ones who don't want to (or at least so they say). Same goes for smell. It's purely biological. By the time your brain can care that it's fake, your emotions don't. Plus if someone took time to make sure they smelled good, it's a pretty good sign that they're the sort of person who takes care of themself enough to keep it up.

What's not to understand? When a guy smells nice it can be really powerful. Hmm... how best to explain it? When a guy smells really clean and good and has just the right amount of just the right scent, it's a little like if a girl is wearing a very low-cut top without all the awkwardness of staring. Of course the ones who smell best are always taken- I guess it's because their girlfriend picked out whatever they're wearing. Supposedly it has something to do with evolutionary biology... Um... probably. It depends on what you're wearing. A good rule of thumb is that it should be noticeable within a few inches of you but less than a foot. Strong is usually really sleezy. As long as you're sure they're not just being polite...

Just skip the aftershave. Most lightly scented shaving cremes or deodorants have just the right amount of smell and generally smell better anyway if you get the right one. It's amazing how little too much it takes to go from yes please sit next to me to get within 10 feet and I'm calling the cops you icky freak. :laugh3:

Bleauh! Don't wear too much of that stuff around me please unless you're prepared to call an ambulance if I stop breathing. :tongue: The worst thing is with all these synthetic scents, that even when I don't react to them they all smell like bugspray to me. :sick:

:laugh3::D Well at least someone's happy.

Erm... perhaps you ought to do your research before you go off like that and embarrass yourself. Even moronic legends are still legends. He's actually kind of far more popular in an entirely different way.

Jonny Rotten knows what a soul is? :inquisitive: Who? One of the nastier members of the Sex Pistols. Also allegedly the guy who had his people beat Kele Okereke up for no reason: http://stereogum.com/archives/wheres_the_beef/john_lydon_and_kele_okerekes_punch_out_011187.html Which kind makes anything he says irrelevant to begin with.

Crappy, sad, angry at the universe. :disappointed:

This stupid thread broke my phone last night. :angry: It was so overloaded that even the power button wouldn't work. :P Happy now?

You aren't the only one. I'm at the tail end of that. I'm 27, I've been in and out of school with crappy jobs in between for nearly 10 years now, and it was only last year that I figured out what I was supposed to do and where I belong. The great thing is, when something does finally fit, you just know it. Suddenly all the frustration of spinning your wheels for so long is suddenly worth it. You know what to do and you have all this other life experience (and therefore perspective) that the people who found their way there fast will never have. And like others are saying, doing well in university does not lead to doing well out of university. They are two completely different worlds, and frankly though you may earn more with a degree if you can find a job in a related field, it's finding a job in a related field that's the hard part, and it was long before the recession. A lot of people who are doing so well now will get out of school, start the job they thought they wanted, and then after all that education realize that it isn't what they wanted to do. Finding your place in the world can take time and effort and hard work. That has happened to both of my younger siblings. I was so jealous of them when I had finally reached the point where I needed to drop out of university. They were younger than me yet they were finishing training and starting good jobs and settling down to start a family or at least getting to move out of the house. And here I was completely lost with no idea what came next. Two years on and they've both decided they want to do something else. Except they now have this whole established life that needs them to keep their job to keep it up. It's kind of hard to go back to school when you have kids to feed. Basically, my point is that it takes different people different lengths of time to work things out, and even then life will still have a lot of surprises in store. There's no use comparing yourself to them because they have a different place, and they need to take a different route to get there.

^Heh... know that feeling. ;)

Ok seriously, I posted the trailers for visual aids only. They are bad. Don't judge by them. What about Gollum? This is the same people with an updated version of the same technology. It's more like an actor with a cg suit on than one of those souless Zemeckis dolls.

Interesting to see how the list both changes and doesn't in a one vote one point system. 124 albums of the 232 received a single vote. 46 received 2 votes. Phoenix and Muse are tied for first place with 33 votes. :shocked2: Muse - The Resistance 33 Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix 33 Arctic Monkeys - Humbug 26 Franz Ferdinand - Tonight: Franz Ferdinand 24 Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest 23 Metric - Fantasies 23 U2 - No Line On The Horizon 22 White Lies - To Lose My Life 22 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz 21 Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion 19 Kasabian - West Ryder Pauper Lunatic Asylum 18 Doves - Kingdom of Rust 16 Bat For Lashes - Two Suns 15 Mew - No More Stories Are Told Today I'm Sorry They Washed Away No More Stories The World Is Grey I'm Tired Let's Wash Away 15 Editors - In This Light And On This Evening 11 Regina Spektor - Far 11 Florence and the Machine - Lungs 9 Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You 9 The XX - XX 9 Green Day - 21st Century Breakdown 8 Pearl Jam - Backspacer 8 Placebo - Battle for the Sun 8 A-ha - Foot of the Mountain 7 Manic Street Preachers - Journal for Plagued Lovers 7 Mumford and Sons - Sigh No More 7 New Moon OST 7 Passion Pit - Manners 7 The Flaming Lips - Embryonic 7 The Temper Trap - Conditions 7 Noah And The Whale - First Days of Spring 6 Wilco - Wilco 6 Athlete - Black Swan 5 Eskimo Joe - Inshalla 5 Fever Ray - Fever Ray 5 Hockey - Mind Chaos 5 Starsailor - All the Plans 5 The Boxer Rebellion - Union 5 The Fray - The Fray 5 Atlas Sound - Logos 4 Dave Matthews Band - Big Whiskey and the GrooGrux King 4 Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca 4 Eels - Hombre Lobo 4 Imogen Heap - Ellipse 4 Julian Casablancas - Phrazes for the Young 4 Owl City - Ocean Eyes 4 The Dead Weather - Horehound 4 The Swell Season - Strict Joy 4 Timber Timbre - Timber Timbre 4 Andrew Bird - Noble Beast 3 Depeche Mode - Sounds of the universe 3 In Flight Safety - We Are An Empire My Dear 3 Morrissey - Years Of Refusal 3 MuteMath - Armistice 3 Paolo Nutini - Sunny Side Up 3 Patrick Watson - Wooden Arms 3 Robbie Williams - Reality killed the video star 3 Röyksopp - Junior 3 St. Vincent - Actor 3 Sufjan Stevens - The BQE 3 The Antlers - Hospice 3 The Horrors - Primary Colours 3 Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg 3 Bell X1 - Blue Lights on the Runway 2 Ben's Brother - Battling Giants 2 Biffy Clyro - Only Revolutions 2 Dinosaur Jr - Farm 2 Evermore - Truth of the World: Welcome To The Show 2 Girls - Album 2 Grammatics - Grammatics 2 Jay-Z - The Blueprint III 2 Jenn Grant - Echoes 2 Joel Plaskett - Three 2 Jon Hopkins - Insides 2 Julian Plenti - Julian Plenti Is... Skyscraper 2 Just Jack - All Night Cinema 2 K'anaan - Troubadour 2 Kings of Convenience - Declaration Of Dependence 2 Lacuna Coil - Shallow Life 2 Leader Cheetah - The Sunspot Letters 2 Mando Diao - Give Me Fire 2 Mat Kearney - City of Black and White 2 Maximo Park - Quicken the heart 2 Michael Buble - Crazy Love 2 Miike Snow - Miike Snow 2 Monsters of Folk - Monsters of Folk 2 Mos Def - The Ecstatic 2 MSTRKRFT - Fist of God 2 OneRepublic - Waking Up 2 Pet Shop Boys - Yes 2 Philadelphia Grand Jury - Hope Is For The Hopers! 2 Porcupine Tree - The Incident 2 Powderfinger - Golden Rule 2 Red Light Company - Fine Fasination 2 Richard Hawley - Truelove's Gutter 2 Rob Thomas - Cradlesong 2 Say Hi - Oohs and Aahs 2 Silversun Pickups - Swoon 2 Stereophonics - Keep Calm And Carry On 2 Teagan and Sara - Sainthood 2 The Big Pink - A Brief History of Love 2 The Decemberists - Hazards of Love 2 The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die 2 The Rakes - Klang 2 Them Crooked Vultures - Them Crooked Vultures 2 Vetiver - Tight Knit 2 Volcano Choir - Unmap 2 Weezer - Raditude 2 Wild Beasts - Two Dancers 2 Acres And Acres - All Nations 1 AFI - Crash Love 1 Air - Love 2 1 Alberta Cross - Broken Side of Time 1 Alondra Bentley - Ashfield Avenue 1 And So I Watch You From Afar - And So I Watch You From Afar 1 Antony and the Johnsons - The Crying Light 1 Apostle of Hustle - Eats Darkness 1 Avett Brothers - I and Love and You 1 Basement Jaxx - Scars 1 Benjamin Biolay - La Superbe 1 Bibio - Ambivalence Avenue 1 Big D and the Kids Table - Fluent In Stroll 1 Billy Talent - Billy Talent III 1 Blackbud - Blackbud 1 Bob Dylan - Together Through Life 1 Bomb The Music Industry! - Scrambles 1 Brand New - Daisy 1 Brendan Benson - My Old Familiar Friend 1 British Sea Power - Man of Aran 1 Broken Records - Until the Earth Begins to Part 1 Bruce Peninsula - A Mountain Is a Mouth 1 Built to Spill - There is No Enemy 1 Calvin Harris - Ready For the Weekend 1 Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career 1 Choir of Young Believers This Is for the White in Your Eyes 1 Codes - Trees Dream In Algebra 1 Conor Oberst - Outer South 1 Creed - Full Circle 1 Dame Shirley Bassey - The Performance 1 Dan Black - Un 1 Dan Deacon - Bromst 1 Dappled Cities - Zounds 1 Dark Was the Night 1 David Fonseca - Between Waves 1 David Gray - Draw The Line 1 Dj Tiesto - Kaleidoscope 1 Dredg - The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion 1 Echo & The Bunnymen - The Fountain 1 Engineers - Three Fact Fader 1 Flypside - State Of Survival 1 Fruit Bats -Ruminant Band 1 Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport 1 fun. - Aim and Ignite 1 Gavin Degraw - Free 1 Gomez - A New Tide 1 Graham Coxon - The Spinning Top 1 Heaven and Hell - The Devil You Know 1 IAMX - Kingdom of Welcome Addiction 1 Idlewild - Post Electric Blues 1 Ingrid Michaelson - Everybody 1 Jack Penate - Everything Is New 1 Jamie T - Kings & Queens 1 Japandroids - Post-Nothing 1 jj - no.2 1 John Garrison - Departures 1 John Mayer - Battle Studies 1 Johnny Foreigner - Grace And The Bigger Picture 1 Jónsi&Alex - Riceboy Sleeps 1 Joose Keskitalo - Tule minun luokseni kulta 1 Karnivool - Sound Awake 1 k-os - Yes! 1 Lawrence Arabia - Chant Darling 1 Lisa Hannigan - Sea Sew 1 Lisa Mitchell - Wonder 1 Loney, Dear - Dear John 1 Lost Valentinos - Cities Of Gold 1 Madeleine Peyroux - Bare Bones 1 Madness - Liberty of Norton Folgate 1 Manchester Orchestra - Mean Everything to Nothing 1 Matt & Kim - Grand 1 Mika - The Boy Who Knew Too Much 1 Milow - Milow 1 Moby - Wait For Me 1 Mono - Hymn to the immortal wind 1 Neko Case - Middle Cyclone 1 Nelly Furtado - Mi Plan 1 Nerina Pallot - The Graduate 1 Newton Faulkner - Rebuilt By Humans 1 NOFX - Coaster 1 Oh No Ono - Eggs 1 Other Lives - Other Lives 1 Paramore - Brand New Eyes 1 Peter Doherty - Grace/Wastelands 1 Pilot Speed - Wooden Bones 1 Plushgun - Pins & Panzers 1 Portugal. The Man - The Satanic Satanist 1 Prefab Sprout - Let's Change the world with Music 1 Rammstein - Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da 1 Real Estate - Real Estate 1 Red Riders - Drown In Colour 1 Risto - Sähköhäiriöön 1 Robert Post - Dream & Let Go 1 Ruby Jean and the Thoughtful Bees - Ruby Jean and the Thoughtful Bees 1 Sarah Blasko - As Day Follows Night 1 Scott Orr - Ghost Party 1 Sonata Arctica - The Days Of Grays 1 Sonic Youth - The Eternal 1 Stars of Track and Field - A Time for Lions 1 Sunset Rubdown - Dragonslayer 1 Super Mash Bros. - All About The Scrilions 1 The Black Crowes - Before the Frost...Until the Freeze 1 The Dodos - Time to Die 1 The Duckworth Lewis Method - The Duckworth Lewis Method 1 The Felice Brothers - Yonder is the Clock 1 The Leisure Society - The Sleeper 1 The Lemonheads - Varshons 1 The Maccabees - Wall Of Arms 1 The Most Serene Republic - ...And the Ever Expanding Universe 1 The Mountain Goats - The Life of the World to Come 1 The Rifles - Great Escape 1 The Sunday Drivers - The End Of Maiden Trip 1 The Tragically Hip - We are the same 1 The Twilight Sad - Forget the Night Ahead 1 The Von Bondies - Love, Hate Then There's You 1 The Wave Pictures - If You Leave It Alone 1 The Whitest Boy Alive - Rules 1 The Working Title - Bone Island 1 The Xcerts - In The Cold Wind We Smile 1 Tubelord - Our First American Friends 1 Where The Wild Things Are OST 1 Yo La Tengo - Popular Songs 1 You Say Party! We Say Die! - XXXX 1 Young Galaxy - Invisible Republic 1

^^Well you guys can't say you didn't try. I think Mew had a higher ratio of first place votes than anything else.

Yeah, the trailers seem to really suck. Everyone hates them and then says that they leave out everything good about the movie. You'd think with a 3 or 5 hundred million dollar movie they could at least hire someone competent to do the PR. :tongue:

Is anyone excited? It's getting glowing reviews- currently 90% on rotten tomatoes, in spite of all the hype over it for the last couple of years. Apparently they worked with WETA to even get rid of the last of the uncanny valley that's been plaguing CG humanoids this decade, and the alien world is more fully realized than most anything before. I wasn't sure about it when I started hearing about it, but it seems like most of my reservations have been taken care of. Now I'm hoping the plot is strong enough to carry the burden of both the hype and the concept. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_JBMrrYw8]YouTube- Avatar Movie Trailer [HD][/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyDQoXEBkGw]YouTube- AVATAR - Official International Launch Trailer (HD)[/ame]

^^ah. Glad it still works without the in between bits we didn't record then. :nice: All in all, I'd say that was a fantastic (if imperfect, of course) top 30. I can see why people are saying not as good as last year or 2006 or 2005 or whenever. I think end of decade or no end of decade, this is the winding down of an era. A lot of the factors that made the music the way it was for the last few years have gone or faded. Politics, economics, and therefore angst have all shifted. The internet isn't a brand new musical wild frontier anymore. People are starting to figure out what works and doesn't. Indie is now slowly starting to go mainstream (glares at New Moon). The original rush of new bands finding their way into the wider world is slowing down, and the reliability of existing bands is now more established. It's exciting to see what the future is going to bring, but at the same time this was the era that taught me to really love all sorts of music. I didn't even care about it in highschool, but looking back, nothing I like now was a factor then. Even if I did try to care, most of the stuff I like now didn't even exist, the old stuff I like wasn't popular, and there wasn't the same sort of access to the underground that there is now. This is probably the stuff I'll be bugging my grandkids with if I ever have any. When this era is really over, there will always be a part of me looking back longingly whatever else comes. As for that future, I kind of worry that the wild creativity bubbling up everywhere this decade will be somewhat diluted if it does break through into the mainstream. But then at the same time the very definition of indie (if people stick to it) means that everyone can make whatever music they want. The endless variety may end up more organized, but there will still be room for endless variety. And if there isn't, anyone can now make room. To the future! :dance:

:uhoh: ;)

Album covers, music videos, points breakdowns ect. to follow at a later (post school) date.

1. Muse - The Resistance 11205

2. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix 9385

3. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest 8660