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Tamer Animals-Other Lives you can listen to it in full here: http://hypem.com/#!/artist/Other%20Lives

What are your peoples thoughts on torture? I mean of course it's not a good thing the idea of torturing another human being, but do you think it's justified in obtaining information? Personally I think that if a threat is imminent or dire that it has to be an option put on the table. I don't think that it should be used all the time or even somewhat frequently. However I think there has to be no doubts as to who they're interrogating. I think it should be a similar approach to going to war in that it's a last resort.

This album is so good! I think it may be album of the year for me so far.

haha alright... so should i make it in this area of the forum or in the lounge?

Well in terms of intelligence I agree. Especially with the whole Iraq War. To me it seems as though it was way too rushed. I think ESPECIALLY when it comes to war that all other options have to be used up and the intelligence has to be nearly perfect. As we've learned from the past the negative effects of war are too much. That's why I feel at least with Iran they are taking the right path in trying to use diplomacy and sanctions before going to war. At the same time, to play devils advocate, what if there is a situation that requires a dire need of intelligence to prevent something from happening? Or if just for arguments sake during WWII we were able to capture someone like Joseph Goebbels, or another high person of the Nazi party, what would you do? I'm not saying it's something that should be used all the time or frequently, but perhaps in extreme scenarios it should be considered. With your other points I agree. I think that It's much better to show support for the people trying to get their freedom rather than stepping in and acting. I think that has been a huge problem of ours is putting our noses into other peoples business and trying to tell them what to do or control who is in charge. Just let the people and nations decide for themselves. I think in the long run when push comes to shove people will or should be motivated enough to achieve their own free rights.

I'd have to go with Frank Sinatra (if that counts)

I see what you're saying and I guess it is true that under duress they may give false info. I guess just for me I see it sometimes as an option when information is needed and there seems to be no other outlet to get the information. But I do agree 100% with your last part that poverty and what not are the key issues to the extreme acts. However it's easier said than done to open the floodgates to those people when they are already oppressed by either their government or small groups that control their area. Also with their way of life staying the same for song long, it makes things difficult too. In the end I think it's a huge miscommunication between the various people of the world. I'm sure that a lot of people if they had the chance would know that most Americans are not evil or commit bad acts, but it's the government. If decisions were made by the people of this country, I'm sure that we'd be in nearly none of the conflicts we are in. I also think that if a lot of the people around the world were able to experience what it's like to live here or in other countries with a lot of freedoms they'd be much more likely to I guess want to change. It's always the many that suffer for the few.

i say go for it... it'd be something interesting to discuss

I see the whole 72 virgin thing as just a way to sexually repress people. I mean think about it... if you were to be rewarded that amount of virgins in heaven, as cynical or fucked up as it sounds wouldn't it push you to want to get there faster? Like I saw this the other day and it was funny I thought, but also interesting: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReNIc1K76nM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReNIc1K76nM[/ame]

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well that's the problem with anything really is defining that line

:lol: well she didn't found it, but she posted it on my wall like 2 months ago before the dazzled explosion happened. so basically she's the only worthy one to post it :lol: :P

:lol: another example now of love with violet and rudy on the board :dazzled: :P :lol:

:lol: I can only imagine how annoying that must've been

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"Violet, you're turning violet, Violet!"

:awesome: he probably just likes you :P ...or likes to annoy you... it's one or the other :lol:

I wish I had that. I mean if it snows a lot we don't have school. But in the city it takes a lot of snow for that to happen (like close to a foot)

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:lol: yes I think it would take the apocalypse for all stores to close in NYC :lol: haha... I hate to admit it but I've done it myself a bit. It's kind of easy especially when you have people talking that way that say ridiculous things. But I know that most people aren't like that

I'm no weakling!

I can understand that. Unfortunately it's kind of a stereotype that if you have a southern accent you're stupid, which is wrong. But you're not stupid so... I know :| especially after this winter I'd be happy to not see snow for a few years

This is true :|

I couldn't help it the dazzleness just took over

wow... well then yeah you'll see snow for sure