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I know... You love everything that has to do with me and whipping :disappointed: and it's 4-2 for my hockey team!!!!! :wacky: I love how I am talking about whipping and hockey here and kantism and utilitarianism in the other thread :rolleyes:

Yeah I kow of that maxim, we can interprete it in different ways, but the one we exploited in class was the universialisation of one's act. Also, Mill and the utilitarists think that yes, the highest good is what we should try to reach for, but they first think that it has to be for the biggest amount of people possible. You kinda have to see it like maths. However, unlike Bentham, Mill did insist on the quality of the good, not just on the amount of it. But he still doesn't think like Kant. Kant thinks that we can reach this highest good through our acts and the intention we put in them, not necessarly through the end we try to reach. Yeah I understand you point there. However, would Kant agree with someone who would say that we cannot base ethics on solid values if we didn't have religions?

^^ Thank you :wacky: That's better, Anette :whip:

It's no problem, very neat monster which I don't know the name of :kiss: Hmmm yeah I see what you mean there.. so according to the utilitarianist, we wouldn't be able to base ethics on solid values without religion, because a religion has an impact on many people. that's good, I can deal with that, thank you :nice: But how about Kant?

:rolleyes: To narrow it down to the simplest explanation of their theories, utilitarianists say that the end justify the means, as long as the greatest number of people are happy. Kant, on the other hand, says that no matter if what you tried to do succeeded, it is the intention that counts. His categorical imperative can be explained as 'if it was a bad/useless thing that everyone do the same actions you make, it is not right'.

If the Habs lose tonight, I will put the blame on you and ignore you for the next 3 months :snobby:

Keep praying, non-believer! :whip:

^You didn't know about my first language? :P Yeah I know all that, but no, it's not a survey, I am not asking for people's opinions, but for how Immanuel Kant and John Stuart Mill (or even Jeremy Bentham) would answer to this question.

Well apparently you were right.. :lol: Congrats to the Sharks, and Philadelphia has to get to work cause.. wow... It's 3-2 for Montreal right now, against Pittsburgh, on the 6th match!!!!! GO HABS GO :dance:

It's 3-2 right now, at the end of the second period :dance: Let's hope they keep the score like that! (talking about the Hads there)

I need help :bigcry: I have this huge essay tomorrow, it's my final exam in philosophy and we have to answer to a question with different ethics. They give us 3 questions before the exam and on the day of the exam, they pick one. I have prepared the first two and I am pretty sure I am ready. However, the third one puzzles me. I know what my answer would be, but I don't know how to answer to it according to the kantian ethics or the utilitarianist ethics. The question is: Without the help of religions, could we always base ethic on solid values? (sorry if this is badly translated, my first language is French)

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I'm done with German II :dance:

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This is hilarious :wacky:

I have to agree about VLV being overrated. But I think AROBTTH gets the credit it deserves. It is totally brilliant, but that's just my opinion.

GO CANUCKS. Please include the Canadians in your prayers too :disappointed:

This is sooo going to seduce you :wacky:

The look on your face is delicate...

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Hmm this could have been discussed there: http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69902

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