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Well...........god......Ahh........that's even more pointless deaths. And we have these guys telling us it was a good idea and that it was for the good of the Iraqi people??? What the hell is the governments definition of liberation = Kill, destroy, steal and conquer? Well done Blair, well done Bush (any all their cronies)...well done. :veryangry:

If you're looking for a reason why Zacarias Moussaoui suddenly testified to a version of the 9/11 plotline that sounds more like the Official story than even the official Whitewash Commission report, this video may have the answer. MSNBC report video NOTE: Before this he was arguing against the original 'official' story.

Yes. AND.....we all know fine well that going into Iraq wasn't about saving the Iraqi people..it was about taking control of their natural resources and to attempt to organise a phony group of leaders - AND - Civilian deaths in Iraq could be as high as 10,000. That's disgraceful. THE MYTH OF LIBERATION However, This is all off topic:)

(CBS) As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate. The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century. Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called the Tomb. When 60 Minutes first reported on Skull & Bones last October, conspiracy experts who see Skull and Bones behind just about everything that goes wrong, and even right, in the world, were relishing the unthinkable - the possibility of two Bonesman fighting it out for the presidency. Over the years, Bones has included presidents, cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, captains of industry, and often their sons and lately their daughters, a social and political network like no other. Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates. “They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.” One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection. “I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum. Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966. Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.” But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural. “It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.” EDIT - http://www.infowars.com/articles/occult/bg_reinfiltration.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

He's a bad, bad man.

Bush is possesed by a demon??? Close. :)

Jesus man....I'm not just saying this stuff. An Expert Physicist is saying it.....you can't just say 'no evidence' to everything. He talks about why he thinks that could be the case and explains his thoughts. You seem like an expert on everything. You always respond in a terrible way. And your the only persopn who does.

It's talking about an incendiary substance called thermite, bolstered by sulfur, was used to generate exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center on 9/11

Physicist says heat substance felled WTC Extremely hot fires caused structures to fail, BYU expert says ^Interesting

Claim: 7/7 LONDON Bombers Planned To Drown Tens Of Thousands Group caught attempting to explode bomb under Thames river disappeared A British political party claims to be in contact with a source, likely to be a police officer, who claims that the night before the 7/7 London Underground bombings, a team of terrorists with a fifth bomb was caught trying to bomb the River Thames and flood the underground, killing tens of thousands of people. Firstly, it is important to address the fact that this story originates with the British National Party, an organization strongly demonized by every sector of British society as a virulently racist mob strongly affiliated with neo-Nazi groups. A balanced observation of the party would be that their supporters comprise a mix between justly outraged anti-immigration sentiment but also violent extremists and white power advocates. Despite what many see as their unsavory agenda, it would be unfair to dismiss a party that has attracted a significant power base in Britain as having no potential to attract sources with highly secretive information. The source claims that by a fortunate accident uniformed officers stopped the terror gang for an unrelated issue before discovering evidence that they were obviously intent on committing an atrocity centered around flooding the London Underground. Within minutes notifying superiors, Special Branch police and MI5 officers descended on the scene to take over the investigation. The uniformed police were ordered to tell no one of the incident. Subsequent attempts on the part of uniformed officers to follow up and discover what happened to the apprehended would-be terrorists were met with silence. The perpetrators apparently vanished without a trace. The story speculates that a high powered explosive, if detonated as close as possible to the tunnel roof beneath the Thames River, would have resulted in torrents of water flooding the entire underground network and drowning tens of thousands of morning commuters as well as crippling London's transport and economic infrastructure as a consequence. The article states, "There are 93 miles of deep level tunnel, a large proportion of them below sea level, and all interconnected. The average depth of the tube lines is eighty feet." "30 million litres of water have to be pumped out of the tunnel system even on a normal day. This is enough to fill a municipal swimming pool every 20 minutes and takes 1,030 pumps." "More than five hundred trains run in the tube system at each morning peak period. 34,000 commuters enter the network at Victoria station alone during the three hour morning peak. During the peak period, the Central Line alone carries 30 trains an hour. The Waterloo and City Line runs 19, and the Northern Line carries 30. The other lines are equally busy." The apparent cover-up in the supposed disappearance of the terror gang and the hush hush treatment of the incident is the most interesting angle to this story. Why would the British government fail to jump on such an event as a glorious success for the law and intelligence services in the fight against terrorism? A foiled attack, dwarfing the simultaneous bomb attacks that in comparison killed only 52 people, which would give them much needed gas mileage in the propaganda war to convince Brits to support Blair's ID card policy and keeping British troops in Iraq. Unfortunately, the BNP's explanation for the incident only betrays their racist zeal to tar all Muslims as terrorists and is completely inconsistent with the facts. Firstly, the BNP says that the foiled attack meant that British law enforcement and MI5 were able to put into action high-level security measures on the morning of 7/7 and that this explains why inconceivably coincidental 'exercises' simulating the exact same locations being attacked at the exact same times were running parallel to the real attacks. The BNP's conspiracy theory goes that the intelligence agencies allowed the far smaller scale 7/7 bombings to take place because they could be pinned on home grown extremists and not as part of a wider Muslim driven hate crusade against the west. The BNP has actually deluded itself into believing that the British government has an interest in protecting the Muslim image and offsetting Islamophobia, in order to be able to continue its rampant immigration policy. How bombing one Muslim nation after the next and being complicit in secret torture rendition programs that largely target innocent Muslims is 'protecting the Muslims' is beyond me. Furthermore, despite the fact that the final leaked version of what happened on 7/7 identifies the perpetrators not as part of an international Al-Qaeda organization but as a modest homegrown operation (again bolstering this website's contention that the bombers were unwitting dupes who thought they were role playing as part of the exercise), all the propaganda echoed by the press and the government in the meantime had the express purpose of bonding the London bombers with the mythical Al-Qaeda and Muslim crusade against the west. A list of that propaganda can be found here. The British people have been bombarded with headline after headline about how Al-Qaeda attacked us on 7/7 for the past 9 months. This is far more likely to stick in comparison to a quietly released one off final report. Therefore the BNP's contention that the final report is somehow a manufactured illusion in order to shield the Muslims from blame in he mind of the public is ridiculous. In addition, they even go as far to state that those who cited the exercise as evidence of the British government's involvement in the 7/7 bombings as the fodder of "neo-Nazi cranks in the USA, who are fortunate enough to have no experience of living next door to people like the arrogant, hate-filled ‘religious’ thugs like Khan and his gang," presumably meaning myself personally in that I was the first in the alternative media to write about the exercises. Firstly, to be called a neo-Nazi by the BNP, an organization with proven neo-Nazi connections, is beyond bizarre. Secondly, I do not live in the USA, I live in England. And for over a year and a half I did indeed live in an economically deprived 50% Muslim community. Though I vehemently advocate controlled immigration, it was my observation that Muslims were the most family-orientated, polite and respectful people I had ever encountered. It was my intention to use this piece as a means of highlighting the very interesting and on first impression credible evidence related by the BNP's source regarding the apparent attack on the River Thames that was foiled by uniformed British police. However, it was necessary to directly rubbish the BNP's demented twisting of this information to suit their crackpot idea that the British government isn't using the imaginary war on terror to demonize Muslims and try and incite race riots, something the BNP would dearly love to see. The real issue at hand is the fact that this apparent foiled attack never became public and that its would-be perpetrators were seemingly protected and given safe passage by the British intelligence services to the amazement of regular uniformed police. Related: London Bombings Archive

:) nice to see we can get along :)

Bush acknowledges declassifying Iraq intelligence, ducks questions on leak Raw Story | April 10 2006 REUTERS BREAKING: # President George W. Bush acknowledged on Monday he ordered the declassification of parts of a prewar intelligence report on Iraq to respond to critics. But Bush said he could not comment on an assertion that he authorized Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, to release the information to reporters. Libby is accused of obstruction of justice and perjury in an investigation designed to discover who leaked the name of a CIA operative. "I will say this, that after we liberated Iraq, there was questions in peoples' minds about, you know, the basis upon which I made statements, in other words, going into Iraq," Bush said in his first words on the subject since it flared up last week. Answering questions after a speech, Bush said he declassified an October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate in July 2003 for a reason. "I wanted people to see what some of those statements were based on. I wanted people to see the truth. I thought it made sense for people to see the truth. That's why I declassified the document," he said. For someone who lies by proxy, he sure want's people to see the truth alot.

This one was interesting... London Telegraph | April 10 2006 For many years now, human-caused climate change has been viewed as a large and urgent problem. In truth, however, the biggest part of the problem is neither environmental nor scientific, but a self-created political fiasco. Consider the simple fact, drawn from the official temperature records of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, that for the years 1998-2005 global average temperature did not increase (there was actually a slight decrease, though not at a rate that differs significantly from zero). Yes, you did read that right. And also, yes, this eight-year period of temperature stasis did coincide with society's continued power station and SUV-inspired pumping of yet more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. In response to these facts, a global warming devotee will chuckle and say "how silly to judge climate change over such a short period". Yet in the next breath, the same person will assure you that the 28-year-long period of warming which occurred between 1970 and 1998 constitutes a dangerous (and man-made) warming. Tosh. Our devotee will also pass by the curious additional facts that a period of similar warming occurred between 1918 and 1940, well prior to the greatest phase of world industrialisation, and that cooling occurred between 1940 and 1965, at precisely the time that human emissions were increasing at their greatest rate. Does something not strike you as odd here? That industrial carbon dioxide is not the primary cause of earth's recent decadal-scale temperature changes doesn't seem at all odd to many thousands of independent scientists. They have long appreciated - ever since the early 1990s, when the global warming bandwagon first started to roll behind the gravy train of the UN Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) - that such short-term climate fluctuations are chiefly of natural origin. Yet the public appears to be largely convinced otherwise. How is this possible? full Article Here

I hear you.

That's because it requires actual independant thoughts. It's sad I know....but a lot of people just sheep.

yup, the 'left' and the 'right' in the U.S is like fighting with your cousins - You say things to hurt them but at the end of the day, you still love each other (and will go golfing with them) haha and actually - it was quite literally cousins fighting in the last election. :rolleyes: So everybody needs to get onto the side of "The People". The faster more people realize this then the better for everyone.

HAHA....It's a wind up. That's a keeper. :laugh1:

Your exactly right. I do hate Bush....and Cheney and Rumsfeld. They all are very bad men.

But getting rid of Bush to end up with Cheney?? I'm starting think Cheney also needs to be impeached. He's also commited impeachable crimes. To quote someone I remeber saying "You want to impeach little red riding hood to end up with the wolf??" Cheney is a clever man and he knows what he is doing. Bush is the puppet. (which too is shameful)

It's a crime. No kidding. But the media has it all wrong. As usual. 'Scooter' Libby finally outed 'Mr. Big,' the perpetrator of the heinous disclosure of the name of secret agent Valerie Plame. It was the President of United States himself -- in conspiracy with his Vice-President. Now the pundits are arguing over whether our war-a-holic President had the legal right to leak this national security information. But, that's a fake debate meant to distract you. OK, let's accept the White House alibi that releasing Plame's identity was no crime. But if that's true, they've committed a bigger crime: Bush and Cheney knowingly withheld vital information from a grand jury investigation, a multimillion dollar inquiry the perps themselves authorized. That's akin to calling in a false fire alarm or calling the cops for a burglary that never happened -- but far, far worse. Let's not forget that in the hunt for the perpetrator of this non-crime, reporter Judith Miller went to jail. Think about that. While Miller sat in a prison cell, Bush and Cheney were laughing their sick heads off, knowing the grand jury testimony, the special prosecutor's subpoenas and the FBI's terrorizing newsrooms were nothing but fake props in Bush's elaborate charade, Cheney's Big Con. http://www.gregpalast.com/printerfriendly.cfm?artid=490

You really are just winding us up now. I don't believe anybody can be as stupid enough to constantly compare the uncovering of what 9/11 really was about to the Yeti and roswell Aliens claims. Yet, you have a number of times.......whatever helps get you through your day.

October 9, 2003 I think

the middle ground is the scary part....it'll be why nothing gets done and we will end up with a dictatorship.

Hey man, I hear you....I know....this is the type of person I'm dealing with. Doesn't read the evidence properly and is completely clueless about what is going on. I mean, again, it's not all his fault. The admin have shaped alot of people in this way. That's why I'm pushing this as much as I can. I'm terrified of what might happen if people don't inform themselves.