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Absolutely. I remember watching the news almost 24/7 for the week after the event, with very little sleep...and I thought it was bad. Imagine having an apartment that overlooks the whole WTC area.... Anyway..back to that video... That part a wanted to see were the minutes & seconds before the collapse of each building....even on the second on they cut it strangely. Because there is another film (9/11 Eyewitness) which show blasts at the bases of the towers - however this video is shot from the pier, across the water. This new home video is alot closer and would show them alot clearer.....but they cut them out everytime.. That's why it annoys me...

New 9/11 Home Footage from New York This video was released yesterday on the fifth anniversary of the attacks. Not much information is known about it at present but it obviously documents the World Trade Center attack from a nearby building. The second plane hitting the tower and the first collapse is edited out but the north tower collapse is included. Rescue efforts, including footage of a rescue helicopter is also shown. The shocked onlookers remark their surprise that fighter jets are not in the air defending the area. The second plane is described as a "military plane" - something the CGI theorists will enjoy haha - but my first reaction upon seeing the second plane video on 9/11 was also that it was a military plane - because the sight of a commercial airliner crashing into a building was unprecedented and the first presumption was that the plane was in the sky to observe the fire in the north tower and/or conduct escue efforts. Holy Moly, this must have been scary for them and you can hear them get really freaked out...they live pretty close to it. When she opens the window it's just sounds mad. Some bits which I wanted to see where cut.....annoying.

Edited...I posted the above twice, by mistake.

VIDEO: Professor Steven Jones On Thermite You Tube | September 11 2006 Professor Steven Jones - a professor of physics at Brigham Young University who conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Currently, Jones is investigating the hypothesis that the World Trade Center Twin Towers and WTC 7 were brought down by pre-positioned cutter charges. Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj6_VrXcrvY Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds29Nzm4xbM Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tlMDan5Tro Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwcwz9uz9lw Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR2reena2WQ

Look.....at the very basic level just watch the twin towers fall. Watch video's of them crumble and just simply notice exactly how they fall. Even if I leave all of the important science out of this - gravity was supposed to be the force which pulled them down but you can see objects flying up into the air for hundreds and hundreds of feet.....it's all just obvious. Just watching them fall and observing what you see you can make sense of it quite easily. A lot of the time talking about all the scientific evaluations (however well they are done) hides the fact anybody can see it by simply watching the towers demolish. There's many, many angles of it and you can see that something else is going on there. Every inch of concrete explodes to dust and the buildings go down at just about freefall speed without no resistance at all.........anyone can see it. And this is something anyone can see and take note of.....just forget it's 9/11 for a second and imagine that you are witnessing something new, without seeing any news about it or hearing ANYTHING about it. It is abosolutely compelling at this basic level.

The airliners were obviously perfectly guided on 9/11 to hit at the perfect level. GPS is to within feet.

Really don't think there's much twisting of words going on.... It's making the point that the initial instinct was that something else happened to bring down the towers. Watch the videos. The very fact that at first sight, the thought of controlled demoliton came into the minds of alot of people actually holds quite strong standing. Something very wrong (apart from fire) obviously happened to bring them down. Then, in time, people have been fed the other story through the joke that is 'the media'.

Everyone's First Reaction Was "Controlled Demolition" Before the official mind control script kicked in and remains 5 years to the day Paul Joseph Watson | September 11 2006 Rarely highlighted footage of an NBC news anchor commenting that the collapse of the twin towers was by no means accidental and that it was a "planned" event, emphasizes the point that before the official mind control script was introduced and parroted forevermore, everybody's first reaction was "controlled demolition." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhDOq305oh0 The NBC anchor featured in this clip is simply reacting to the events he is witnessing with common sense in stating that the collapse of the trade towers was obviously a planned event and by no means an accident or a simple consequence of jets hitting the buildings. "This was clearly -- the way the structure is collapsing -- this was the result of something that was planned." "This is not, it's not accidental that the first tower just happened to collapse and then the second tower just happened to collapse in exactly the same way." "How they accomplished this, we don't know. But clearly this is what happened." This is what I wrote in the late afternoon of September 11, 2001. "The collapse of the World Trade Center towers is also perplexing. They clearly imploded as if being demolished by carefully placed bombs within the building. The explanation that the aircraft fuel from the Boeing caused the implosion doesn't tally with the footage of the event. Surely such a method would produce a more inconsistent and graphic explosion? The building collapsed symmetrically." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BcquyD_DcQ CBS News' Dan Rather also commented that the collapse of building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, resembled a deliberate attempt to demolish the structure using incendiary devices. "For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHluIkUycA NBC's Pat Dawson reported the working hypothesis of the FDNY in the immediate aftermath of the towers' collapse. "The chief of safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me he received word of a possibility of a secondary device -- that is another bomb going off. He tries to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place and according to his theory, he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdrUMfax8I MSNBC news anchor Rick Sanchez reported that police had found suspicious devices in and around the WTC area and that the secondary explosions, which were reported by numerous survivors, were thought by police to be bombs. "Police have found what they believe to be a suspicious device and they fear that it may lead to another explosion." "I spoke with some police officials moments ago, Chris, and they told me they have reason to believe that one of the explosions at the World Trade Center aside the ones caused by the planes, may have been caused by a van that was parked on the building that may have had an explosive device in it." During an exchange between ABC's Peter Jennings and reporter Don Dahler following the collapse of the north tower, the first assumption is again that controlled demolition must have been used to take down the building. "Yes Peter its Don Dahler down here. I'm four blocks north of the World Trade Center. The second building that was hit by the plane has just completely collapsed." "The entire building has just collapsed as if a demolition team set off....when you see the old demolition of these old buildings. It just folded in on itself and it is not there anymore." Peter Jennings: "If you wish to bring, if anyone has ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows, that you're going to do this you have to get at the, at the under infrastructure of a building and bring it down." http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5061514770009171572 Police chiefs, fire department heads, veteran news anchors, eyewitnesses on the ground - everyone's first reaction was "controlled demolition" because the events suggested nothing else. In the first few hours of 9/11 - bombs in the buildings was almost as equally understood and accepted as the fact that planes had hit the towers. Just as with the Oklahoma City Bombing - reports of multiple explosions and bombs were commonplace - but the scriptwriters had to concoct a fable that matched the explanation of Timothy McVeigh and a single fertilizer truck bomb. Similarly, anything that contradicted the already decided upon explanation of 9/11, no matter that almost every eyewitness interviewed as the attack unfolded reported bombs, was cut from the final edit of the propaganda. History is written by the winners - if the government had announced that gargoyles from the planet Jupiter had destroyed the towers with mind rays - the mainstream media would have lined up, saluted, licked boots, and supported that explanation. The sheer magnitude of trying to overturn such a gargantuan lie as the official story of 9/11 rested on demolishing the power of the initial mind control - the first explanation of what happened is always provided by the government and it always remains as the seal of authenticity, no matter how preposterous. Not enough people dared question the official version of 9/11 in the hours and days after the attack and that's why it stuck. If the 9/11 truth movement has achieved anything it is the diluting of the influence and credibility the government has in brainwashing the public with its "official version" in the immediate aftermath of major events. Which thankfully makes the much vaunted "next 9/11" less likely in the short-term to happen.

9/11 and onwards in numbers 422,000 - New Yorkers had post-traumatic stress disorder 20 - per cent of Americans knew someone hurt or killed in the attacks 600,000,000 dollars estimated cost of clean-up 313,577,342,026 - dollars spent by America for the war in iraq 62,006 - confirmed deaths arising from terror attacks and the war on terror but real toll probably 180,000+ 115 - nations who lost citizens 22,000 - US bombs fell on Afghanistan in the following 6 months 2,973 - people killed in 9/11 attacks 2,974 - US servicemen 'officially' killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, real number almost certainly higher 274 - FDNY retirements Jan-July 2001 661 - FDNY retirements Jan-July 2002 3,051 - children lost a parent 24 - people listed as still missing 1,506,124 - tons of debris removed from site 67 - British victims 403 - firefighters, paramedics and police killed 140,000 - jobs lost in New York as a direct result of the attacks We must never forget the events of that day

What, so your saying, let people make descisions for themsleves?? What a novel idea. ;) Your right, of course. We need to spend less time on matters like this when the real solution is there from the start. I think smoking cigarettes & drinking alcohol while knowingly being pregnant is a very stupid idea but what was talked about at the beginning of this thread was pure horse shit.

Hmmmmm. Yeah, right.

Of course a lot of people thought they were connected....because they created "false evidence". It went from absolute "overwhelming evidence" to "nothing".

Hmmmm, look.....Bush Announces Sept. 11th Primetime Address, Asks ABC To Interrupt "Path Of 9/11" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/09/08/bush-announces-sept-11th_e_29034.html Feed the lies George....your a good little tool for the elite.

Oh your dreaming if you believe what you've just wrote...sorry.....but you are.

Your wrong......and we weren't even talking about that...look at the title of this thread for gods sake!!! You always start with your BS in the middle of a topic.....like when you started talking about 'my theories' in this one after a joke about a skynews newspaper.... you are one leaf short of a cabbage at times.

Of course the prices are high, there's the threat that the US are going to blast open another conflict in the region...one way or another. Most of the oil is coming to europe anyway...

Your into some sort of drugs right??

On man... Here's a nice quote for you then... "There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming.... .....It involves a whole series of contacts, high-level contacts with Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials." Vice President Dick Cheney

Lets get this straight.... I said "we were told that there were connections. That's the problem" - which we were told by the government - one of the reasons to bomb Iraq You said this "I was never told there were connection to al queada...." - which is just a plain bizarre comment I said "You are a halfwit!!! The American people were led to believe that there were connections!" - which is true, they did tell us that and you then said "i never said they were linked, thus this has nothing to do about me, you moron" - which again is random Ok, conversations with you are mind numbing...I don't see how you come up with such horribly put together arguments....it's like you read one thing and then just write something loosely based on my comments.

You are an idiot - complete buffoon. You know very well what I was on about.

Oh yeah, that's what I said. You should just fuck right off into a hole. I can't believe I ever bothered trying to be anything other than civil around people such as you, the things you actually think of are beyond belief. Look, everyone....I give up with this rotten shit.

You are a halfwit!!! The American people were led to believe that there were connections!

Ahhh... You had to go and be an dickhead didn't you?

The 'skynews newspaper'....haha. Good one :laugh2: ;)

But we were told that there were connections. That's the problem. They count on most of the population being pretty stupid.