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Well, as I say....this is old news....it was admitted a while ago that Saddam had nothing to do with the group and that he had no 'weapons of mass destruction'. I don't quite understand why it's a breaking news article actually...

There is no evidence of links between former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda leaders in Iraq prior to the 2003 war, a US Senate report has said. The revelation comes from a 2005 CIA report released by the Senate's Intelligence Committee on Friday. US President George W Bush has said that the presence of late al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq before the war was evidence of a link. Opposition Democrats say the report has harmed Mr Bush's case for going to war. bb.co.uk/news Senate report: No Saddam, al-Qaida link Long-awaited analysis also finds that anti-Saddam group misled U.S. The Senate Intelligence Committee, which released the Iraq report, is chaired by Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., left. The ranking minority member is Sen. Jay Rockefeller, right. Updated: 1:06 p.m. ET Sept. 8, 2006 WASHINGTON - There’s no evidence Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his al-Qaida associates, according to a Senate report on prewar intelligence on Iraq released Friday. Democrats said the report undercuts President Bush’s justification for going to war. The declassified document, written by the Senate Intelligence Committee, also explores the role that inaccurate information supplied by the Iraqi National Congress, an anti-Saddam exile group, had in the march to war. It discloses for the first time an October 2005 CIA assessment that prior to the war Saddam’s government “did not have a relationship, harbor or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates.” MSNBC/AP We already knew this though. It's actually old news isn't it.

I think anyone would be depressed after realising you have agreed to spend the rest of your life with Tom Cruise. Poor Katie.

^ hey, that's not far from the truth.....he's had attempts at that. He's also been beaten up in a carpark before actually. And he's always saying that he's probably going to get killed in something that's made out to be a car-jacking or similar. And death threats are pretty common to him. But if he was killed now I guess it would make him a martyr. If he ever dipped out of the 9/11 truth spotlight for a while then I guess he would be killed for sure.

Yeah, the local council elections is where the difference can be made - If you vote for people who you think will fight for the peoples rights and not just someone who is a lover of whoever is PM. But general elections...hmmm, it's almost as if we are screwed either way. If you look at it realistically, no Lib will ever get in power, no green, no BNP (which is a good thing!) - no other party except Labour or the Conservatives can win the general election for the foreseeable future. It's just the way the county is set up at the moment......unfortunately

Well, the the fact is - that these articles go unheard of and are not noticed by anyone because they are normally a small snippet in the backs of newspapers.... Of course there are good reporters working in news who try and uncover the truth but there's far more news articles and reports that cover it up. IF there were no mainstream news articles like this AT ALL then I think that there would be far more questions raised by people and the reporters who would be complaining about their reports being blocked from getting pressed or put on air. It's like if all the people talking about government involvement in terror or their suspect polices and lying were taken off air and the freedom was lost to do so then it really would harm the government as they would be seen as having taken away outlets that could expose what they are doing....you know, they need to allow the impression of a free press. More often it's just decent reporters/presenters who break the stories....but there isn't many of those left in the mainstream, that's for sure. And the fact that nothing is done about it dispite these reports in the alternative AND the mainstream press shows how a lot people are willing to ignore what's really happening. And no, I havent read the Metro today....I'm sure my housemate will bring it back with him later and I can have a look......or I can just check their website.

Haha, shut it. Democrats/Republicans.......it's all the same. Just like here in the UK with Labour & Conservatives. I expect the hardcore Dems over there to just as bad as the hardcore Republicans

Bin Laden Tape Betrays 'Phony Hijacker' Contradiction Target is "U.S. home audience," as with fake Al-Zarqawi propaganda campaign, to reinforce 9/11 myth as 5th anniversary nears Paul Joseph Watson | September 8 2006 A new tape showing Osama Bin Laden meeting with September 11 hijackers days before the attack has served to boost the Bush administration's war on terror agenda as the fifth anniversary of 9/11 nears, yet one of the hijackers who appears in the tape is reported elsewhere as still alive and completely unconnected to the terror plot. The tape purports to show Bin Laden meeting with alleged 9/11 hijackers Wail Alshehri and Hamza Alghamdi days before the attack in Afghanistan. After reports emerged that some of the named hijackers were still alive the FBI quickly changed its story to claim that some of the hijackers had stolen the identities of other individuals. Innocent people who saw their photograph amongst the 19 terrorists complained to their embassies yet the same mug shots are still used to this day and the FBI has made no effort to revise the list. Telling therefore it is that Wail Alshehri was one of the accused hijackers reported by the L.A. Times to still be alive and protesting his innocence in Saudi Arabia after 9/11. So how can Alshehri appear in a tape meeting with Bin Laden when he had no involvement with the plot whatsoever and is presumably still alive today? Does the Alshehri in the videotape look similar to the innocent Alshehri who was framed for the attacks? Why does the mainstream media refuse to even ask these questions, instead just blithely relaying the propaganda? Furthermore, the other alleged hijacker in the tape, Hamza Alghamdi's original mug shot as it appeared on the splash of 19 hijackers bore, "no resemblance" to the real Hamza Alghamdi - according to his own father after being informed of his son's involvement in the attack. The Hamza Alghamdi in the new video does appear to be the same individual in the FBI's mug shot parade. As with at least seven of the hijackers, it seems that there are two of each one, and the ones that appear in the tapes are patsies or dupes. This is by no means a stretch when we recall that many of the hijackers were trained at secure U.S. government air bases and that the FBI had its own informants living with them. (MSNBC & Newsweek) The credibility of the tape is not helped by the fact that a companion tape allegedly showing Abu Hamza al-Muhajir - who is being sold as the new Al-Qaeda frontman in Iraq - urging Iraqis to join with insurgents - contradicts reports that were picked up by Al-Jazeera itself, that al-Muhajir has been incarcerated in an Egyptian jail cell for the past seven years. As was the case with Musab Al-Zarqawi - the patsies and the fall guys are interchangeable and they can be killed, captured and recycled numerous times over without stirring the attention of a sleeping public, nearly half of which still believes Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11. Recall that the Pentagon's stated intention to artificially magnify Musab Al-Zarqawi's role in Iraq was followed by the release of a video tape of Al-Zarqawi threatening the infidels. The target of this leaked propaganda campaign to boost Al-Qaeda's profile was said to be the "U.S. home audience," and included planting fake stories in newspapers - one of which was later splashed on the front page of the New York Times. The formula is simple. The U.S. government needs to dangle the boogeyman in front of the public at regular intervals to prop up its flailing agenda. A course of propaganda is agreed upon, the target is identified as the "U.S. home audience," and Al-Jazeera releases a new tape. The hijackers were patsies, Osama bin Laden was a patsy - it doesn't really matter if they met or not. The other patsy in the video, Hamza Alghamdi, was trained at the behest of the U.S. government at the Pensacola Naval Air Station. But the video - as with most war propaganda - is aimed at the lowest common denominator and for most Joe Six Pack and Sally Soccer Moms it's enough to reinforce the official version of 9/11 and the legitimacy of the war on terror. The target is again the "U.S. home audience," and allied with the White House's recent announcement that it would target conspiracy theorists as terrorist recruiters, this is another lurid effort to beat back the rampaging wildfire of enlightenment created by the burgeoning 9/11 truth movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3SzXjL7XQ 9/11 Truth: Mohammad Atta & The Patsies Bin Laden's on screen appearances routinely intersect with politically opportune moments for the Bush administration. September 11 and its fifth anniversary is still the broken record of justification for everything the Neo-Fascists are getting away with - it's the only remaining PR ploy that Americans in large enough numbers are willing to swallow. The fact that confidence in the government version of 9/11 is hanging by a thread has provoked an unprecedented backlash from the establishment and this re-hashed tape is part of that riposte. Regular readers won't need to be reminded of the 2001 'Osama confession tape' - rated R for ridiculous, a fat bin Laden conveniently owns up to 9/11, completely contradicting his earlier statements, on a video tape magically 'discovered' during a random house search in Jalalabad. The April 2006 Al-Zarqawi tape followed hot on the heels of a previous Bin Laden tape that again astoundingly gave the pretext for the Bush administration to pursue its goals in Sudan, Iraq and Iran with increased worldwide support at a time when Bush's poll numbers sank to a record low of 32 per cent. Osama just seems to employ perfect timing on every occasion to pop up right when it is most rewarding for the Neo-Cons. The October surprise in 2004, a Bush bashing Bin Laden bonanza tape, enabled George W. to secure the extra couple of points he needed to ensure re-election. Even role-playing Skull and Bones puppet John Kerry went off-script and blamed the Bin Laden video for his defeat. Veteran newsman Walter Cronkite told Larry King that the whole thing was a Karl Rove orchestrated set-up. Expect more coincidental image boosts - gracefully supplied by Al-Qaeda - over the next few days as Karl Rove and the architects of apocalypse milk the teat of 9/11 until the cows come home.

"your plots" See, I can't believe you guys don't trip and fall down more. AND Yes, I try to be civil but it's tough when you read some of the comments....it's not the type of arguing which is worth it at the end of the day. It's like a bunch of kids having a bit of a joke around and it's just not good.

You guys are so stupid that's not even worth the effort. It's actually depressing to see.

28-Year Career CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job Highlights missing Pentagon trillions as potential motive Paul Joseph Watson | September 7 2006 A 28-year CIA career man and a former skeptic of alternative 9/11 explanations has gone further than ever before in voicing his convictions that the attacks bore the hallmarks of an inside job and the three buildings in the WTC complex were brought down by controlled demolition. Bill Christison is a former senior official of the CIA. He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. Since then he has written numerous articles on U.S. foreign policies. In Christison's recent article, Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11, he afforded credibility to the notion that "significant parts" of the official 9/11 story were false and after careful research he concluded that the twin towers and building 7, "were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings." Christison went further in a radio interview, agreeing that the attacks being an inside job was the "most likely possibility." "David Griffin believes this all was totally an inside job - I've got to say I think that it was too," said Christison. Christison initially approached the subject unwilling to even consider that elements of the government could be engaged in such heights of criminality but his research quickly began to change his mind. "Just about half a year ago it dawned on me that not only was I trying to avoid an issue that might be extraordinarily important - more important than any other issue," said Christison. "I have since decided that....at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen." Christison (pictured) stated that the suspicious collapse of the three buildings, including building 7 which wasn't hit by a plane, were likely the result of controlled demolitions. "The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes." "All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions." Referencing the 2.3 trillion dollars that was discovered to be missing from the Pentagon's coffers, Christison emphasized the fact that with an unlimited budget, the scope of operations that could be undertaken by the military-industrial complex are almost without recourse. "There is so much money now sloshing around throughout not only the CIA but the intelligence components of the Defense Department - which are actually bigger than the CIA - that these guys can do almost anything they want these days." Christison said that one of the subsidiary motives behind 9/11 was to take attention away from an impending exposure of the missing trillions and criminal proceedings against high officials - just as LBJ had Kennedy assassinated partly to delay imminent corruption probes that would have sent him to prison. Christison is just the latest in a deluge of former government and intelligence agency insiders to boldly go public with their doubts about the official story behind 9/11 and he has an urgent message for future whistleblowers who might be considering the same course of action. "We have got to be willing to be discredited, we have got to stick our necks out - this is just plain too important."

It's completely different to Michael Barrymore for gods sake....why oh why would you make such a stupid comparison? He gets no publicity out of it what so ever.

"Yeah and one of his many, many predications come true then it becomes a major predication".....AGAIN, your wrong with that....that's not how it's happened.....SEE you don't know anything about this....and it's really obvious to me....haha....he's only ever twice made big predictions.....your such a loser in this pal. Your words "he's out to make money" are just so wrong. I know 50+ people from all parts of the political spectrum who know and meet him on a regular basis and it's never anything that's been mentioned AT ALL....only people who don't agree with him start to spread those lies because they can't argue with him on the facts. If having death threats against him and his family, breaking down in tears on air and on tv is him 'making money' then I guess he's never going to be able to stop people making lies up about him.

Haha, whatever. I KNOW for a fact that you are 100% incorrect. The quotes are right I bet but it's madness the way that snippets are used. AND - These things you posted that are "predictions" are things he just says in passing during a rant on the radio and alot of them are way out of context....plus he does like to use sarcasm alot. He has publically stated that he has only ever made two major predictions and this is something you would know if you were a listener to his show on a regular basis. Anyway, you don't even listen to the guy so I don't know how you can have such a detailed opinion.....well you don't do you. I only post his websites articles because they cite alot of references and cover alot of info, however....more often then not I read the info in other places first. You should stop making this out to be about me and the fact that I post Alex Jones' articles and you should listen for yourself.......he's a very passionate character and doesn't more good than you could ever imagine.

See, my efforts will be wasted on you and are pointless. Because you'll just say "I don't believe it".....and not like Victor Meldrew. I might do it tomorrow....it's late now (or early), as you know.

no, no, no.... You don't get it.....and to be frankly honest, me writing out how compartmentalisation works in the cover up probably won't change I thing.

That is true, I believe that. And you don't. I already know that. But people just hear "secret group" and dismiss it.....and they really shouldn't - the REALLY should look into it. But they won't. It's always been the few the create the revolutionary change and I'm going to be a part of that because I've done alot of studying. And I'm not just learning about this stuff so I can pretend to be super-intelligent....I mean, I think I'm more switched on than alot of people......but I am doing this becuase I kind of feel it's my duty to imform myself on such matters, you know. Like who has the power in our world and how they use it to their own gain but to the demise of the true citizens around the globe. "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"

What??!?? Jesus, you make some stupid comments. No wonder we are going to win on exposing the governments crimes when we have people such as you making really pointless comments like this. Keep them coming.

What? I'm sick of you........your so foolish. Seriously. I thought fellow British folk would have more of an sound, objective view. Obviously I'm wrong in this case.

^ easy. I know how to do it, I've studied how....;)....and you only need a handful of people who know what's really happening.

"don't think the administration would be able to pull it off" Forget what you think about the "administration" as the puppet known as Bush has nothing to do with any sort of planning. It's the clever guys behind him. I think the set-up to have Bush in control at this time is a master stroke by the crime syndicate that ultimately control the whitehouse That's the thing.....people say, "ohh Bush, nah, he's too stupid".....trust me, he's not the guy with the brains in all this. There are extremely clever people working for the government with multiple PhD's and Degree's.....you surely don't thing that Bush is at the top??? ha.

It's already out on a DVD release from here.....it did (is) having a few screenings in Dallas and in Austin but other than that you can see it for free at google video here

Oh, you really know how to prove me wrong don't you....

Debunking 9/11 Myths has been discussed and has been shown to be terrible.

Yeah, I think it is a bit of the nose which you see pop out....but it's aluminium and doesn't survive the flames.