I was just looking at Spin's top 100 albums of the last 20 years...

 

http://www.nynewsday.com/entertainment/nyc-spin0620,0,403573.story?coll=nyc-enthome-headlines

 

100. Strokes - Is This It

99. Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen

98. Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time

97. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea

96. The Pogues - Rum Sodomy & The Lash

95. Elastica - s/t

94. Slint - Spiderland

93. Pearl Jam - Ten

92. Big Black - Atomizer

91. XTC - Skylarking

90. Sonic Youth - Sister

89. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell

88. Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup

87. Blur - Parklife

86. Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun

85. REM - Automatic For The People

84. Soundgarden - Superunknown

83. At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command

82. Jeff Buckley - Grace

81. Beck - Mellow Gold

80. D'Angelo - Voodoo

79. Moby - Everything Is Wrong

78. The Stone Roses - s/t

77. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

76. Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister

75. Le Tigre - s/t

74. Portishead - Dummy

73. Pulp - Different Class

72. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx

71. The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy

70. Jay-Z - The Blueprint

69. DJ Shadow - Entroducing...

68. Tricky - Maxinquaye

67. Slayer - Reign In Blood

66. Outkast - Aquemini

65. Basement Jaxx - Remedy

64. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP

63. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain

62. Missy Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly

61. Weezer - Pinkerton

60. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead

59. Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West

58. Metallica - Master Of Puppets

57. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells

56. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love

55. The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole

54. The Breeders - Last Splash

53. Rage Against The Machine - The Battle Of Los Angeles

52. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill

51. Nirvana - In Utero

50. New Order - Low Life

49. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of...

48. Radiohead - Kid A

47. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full

46. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace

45. Kanye West - College Dropout

44. Green Day - Dookie

43. B.D.P. - Criminal Minded

42. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking

41. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream

40. Run D.M.C. - Raising Hell

39. Lucinda Williams - s/t

38. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory

37. Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand

36. Pixies - Doolittle

35. Dr. Dre - The Chronic

34. Elliott Smith - Either/Or

33. Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted

32. The Replacements - Tim

31. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me

30. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die

29. Fugazi - 13 Songs

28. Oasis - Definitely Maybe

27. The Cure - The Head On The Door

26. Bjork - Post

25. Nine Ince Nails - The Downward Spiral

24. Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out

23. Outkast - Stankonia

22. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

21. Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet

20. Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang (36 Chambers)

19. Hole - Live Through This

18. Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction

17. Nas - Illmatic

16. Beck - Odelay

15. Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville

14. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation

13. Husker Du - New Day Rising

12. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique

11. U2 - Achtung Baby

10. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton

9. PJ Harvey - Rid Of Me

8. Prince - Sign O The Times

7. De La Soul - 3 Ft. High And Rising

6. Pixies - Surfer Rosa

5. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead

4. Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted

3. Nirvana - Nevermind

2. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation...

1. Radiohead - OK Computer

 

...and it made me think. Will Coldplay ever make a classic album along the lines of Radiohead's Ok Computer or The Beatles Revolver?

 

So far they have yet to make a classic album. Don't get me wrong, I think X&Y,Parachutes and A Rush of Blood To The Head are good records. But none of them will ever be considered classics. Mostly because they haven't broken any barriers musically and because they aren't ''amazing''.

 

Of course Coldplay is a very young band, and they may very well release a classic album in the future. But do they really have it in them?

I think that both AROBTTH and X&Y are pretty damn "classic!" :D ;)

sure, why not. Alright....maybe not like The Beatles because comparing Coldplay to them is a little off. But they are still developing musically and didn't Chris say there would be changes? Maybe they will bring out some true gem and it will make one of those lists. However, I think they are great even if they don't make it onto those charts.

yeh .. i don't really understand how coldplay's Rush Of Blood aint in that list

definatly better than the strokes, the white stripes and outkast to just name a few, Rush Of Blood should definatly be in there :( i mean how many albums did it sell!!!?

Guess the Spin editors who put together the list must not be Coldplay fans. :huh: :/

might be. everything lays in the eye of the beholder,r ight? I am sure if others had made the list, the outcome would have been significantly different. as long as their fans dig their albums everything is great tho, isnt it?

might be. everything lays in the eye of the beholder' date='r ight? I am sure if others had made the list, the outcome would have been significantly different. as long as their fans dig their albums everything is great tho, isnt it?[/quote']

 

Exactly! :D these "lists," "countdowns," etc. are always gonna be heavily biased. :P

If Chris Martin pops his clogs you will find 3 classic Coldplay albums added to that list ;)

might be. everything lays in the eye of the beholder' date='r ight? I am sure if others had made the list, the outcome would have been significantly different. as long as their fans dig their albums everything is great tho, isnt it?[/quote']

 

Exactly! :D these "lists," "countdowns," etc. are always gonna be heavily biased. :P

That list isn't heavily biased though. Notice they have all sorts of music and different genres. Most of those albums in that list are actually albums that have been deemed "classics" (don't ask me by whom) and people usually agree that they are.

 

I think AROBTTH should be included.

might be. everything lays in the eye of the beholder' date='r ight? I am sure if others had made the list, the outcome would have been significantly different. as long as their fans dig their albums everything is great tho, isnt it?[/quote']

 

Exactly! :D these "lists," "countdowns," etc. are always gonna be heavily biased. :P

That list isn't heavily biased though. Notice they have all sorts of music and different genres. Most of those albums in that list are actually albums that have been deemed "classics" (don't ask me by whom) and people usually agree that they are.

 

I think AROBTTH should be included.

 

I just meant that these listmakers will always leave off the artists they aren't "into" ;)

ARoBttH is already a classic ;)

It's Spin, a lot of those artists do not belong there (such as Eminem). I think Parachutes is a classic already.

It's Spin' date=' a lot of those artists do not belong there (such as Eminem). I think Parachutes is a classic already.[/quote']

 

Good point, I very much agree!

Listen, I am a HUGE Beatles fan, look at their career. they revolutionized music and evolved, I'm sure Coldplay will also evolve. X&Y is also a big change for them, it is different then Parachutes & AROBTTH. I will not stop listening to them, and in my opinion the band itself is classic.

oh my, i didnt even see Eminem was on that list. Nothing against Eminem, I used to listen to his stuff...but...uh...okay that pretty much beats my definiton of a classic album

How are the Strokes on that list but not Coldplay?? I love the Strokes and all...but that makes NO sense... AROBTTH should have been on that list for sure. Oh well, those lists are never that great anyway...

It's Spin' date=' a lot of those artists do not belong there (such as Eminem). I think Parachutes is a classic already.[/quote']

A lot of rap fans will tell you, Marshall Mathers LP is indeed a classic. I agree with that list. Just because Coldplay isn't in it doesn't mean it's not "legit" or bad. :rolleyes:

I do think they'll be seen as a certain kind of classic, just for their quality. And they'll be albums people will play for their kids, and future generations. People will look to Coldplay as examples of good songwriting and they'll be influential in that way. I just dont think they'll be classics on the level of OK Computer, Nevermind, The Joshua Tree or those albums from the 60s and 70s, which is fair, because they don't reflect the times. They are sort of just timeless albums which keeps them from being revolutionary.

 

People whose personal favorite albums are all the "classics" are boring though.

How are the Strokes on that list but not Coldplay?? I love the Strokes and all...but that makes NO sense... AROBTTH should have been on that list for sure. Oh well' date=' those lists are never that great anyway...[/quote']

 

Simple answer: because it's a rock magazine and Coldplay don't rock as hard as the Strokes.

 

Also, because of X&Y. Coldplay were never "cool" or rock n' roll to like, but lots of people ordinarily obsessed with being seen as cool (magazines like Spin, for instance) still liked them because their music was so good. But X&Y is so mainstream sounding that it's putting some of the old fans off Coldplay. It's probably the same reason Rolling Stone refused to list REM in their "Best 100 Bands Ever" issue, when throughout the '80s and '90s REM was the band they loved more than anyone. That was absolutely crazy and unfair, when Nine Inch Nails got in! But the reason is, REM's last album wasn't up to their old stuff, and people think it's the wrong time to honor REM even for their old stuff. If Coldplay had made a raw or risk taking rock album that fit with the Spin sensibility for #3, you can bet Parachutes or Rush of Blood would have been in that list.

How are the Strokes on that list but not Coldplay?? I love the Strokes and all...but that makes NO sense... AROBTTH should have been on that list for sure. Oh well' date=' those lists are never that great anyway...[/quote']

 

Simple answer: because it's a rock magazine and Coldplay don't rock as hard as the Strokes.

I disagree. There's all sorts of genres on that list, you don't have to "rock hard" to be on it, obviously. Coldplay is just not there yet. They haven't changed music or turned it into a different direction, just yet. In time, I'm pretty sure they will.

I would have thought that AROBTTH was their classic album... but that list is a bit jaded.. how can you have D'Angelo's Vodoo over Jeff Buckley's Grace???? Thats perposterous... :rolleyes: albiet, they are both great albums... but over Grace????!!!! :shocked:

Where the f**k is "Joshua Tree" on that list?? :angry: :cry:

Where the f**k is "Joshua Tree" on that list?? :angry: :cry:

 

I second that notion... :angry:

That's why I said.. it's Spin (a shitty music magazine) I wouldn't take it too seriously.

parachutes is a modern classic