thats good to hear these comments.i agree with you two.i can understand your feelings sniggirb, the only thing is that i dont want Muhammed's name or pictures to be random and everywhere,it isnt so important if he is pictured in a good way.and

I think the western world should accept that they are not allowed to draw the picture of Muhammed.

this solution is the best and easiest one for me.

I'm really unsure how real christians would react to a God picture drawn by muslims!You are not allowed to draw a god picture in our christian believe!

a real muslim cannot do it.but if someone,say in Turkey, draws it i think before the christians, muslims will react to him/her. :)

I don't get this now! :confused:

I think the western world should accept that they are not allowed to draw the picture of Muhammed

The western world shouldn't accept NOTHING which was written down in some stupid, overaged books (despite of the geneva convention and other int. legal stuff, maybe). I don't want to comply with heavily restricting rules of religions I give a shit about.

And by the way: Religions/societies respecting other religions/societies is still utopia. Past showed us, present shows us and future will show us that!

I think the western world should accept that they are not allowed to draw the picture of Muhammed

The western world shouldn't accept NOTHING which was written down in some stupid, overaged books (despite of the geneva convention and other int. legal stuff, maybe). I don't want to comply with heavily restricting rules of religions I give a shit about.

And by the way: Religions/societies respecting other religions/societies is still utopia. Past showed us, present shows us and future will show us that!

 

No......I think if their believe is like that (and they have a strong believe....a really important thing in their life) then I think we should accept it!Point!

You think so?

And what if their religion demands to sacrifice a virgin every month and they'd be allowed to do that in their country... would you say, we should accept that too and allow them to do it here as well?

It's the same scenario - maybe a bit exaggerated, but still people's base rights are restricted by foreign RELIGION!

Well..........I'm not talking about examples like that.........I think if the muslims theirselves are not allowed or shouldn't draw a picture of Muhammed.....then the western world or the other religions should definitely not do it aswell!I know....in many religions there are really stupid and strict rules.....but this one is NOT hard to follow!

The western world shouldn't accept NOTHING which was written down in some stupid, overaged books (despite of the geneva convention and other int. legal stuff, maybe). I don't want to comply with heavily restricting rules of religions I give a shit about.

And by the way: Religions/societies respecting other religions/societies is still utopia. Past showed us, present shows us and future will show us that!

You think so?

And what if their religion demands to sacrifice a virgin every month and they'd be allowed to do that in their country... would you say, we should accept that too and allow them to do it here as well?

It's the same scenario - maybe a bit exaggerated, but still people's base rights are restricted by foreign RELIGION!

:)

Ah.......and I think:The western world should have known how they react..........it was just provoking....and I think they should be a bit scared about provoking them!

I believe that the principal problem is the auto-isolation of the Muslims.

Let me explain myself

They are very careful with his religion (something that is well),just taht sometimes,some people they take it to the extreme.

 

Religion should respect eachothers,but sometimes they do not!

Countries should respect eachother,but sometimes they do not!

 

For me the magic word for solve problems and make problems is: Tolerance

 

The excess or absence in tolerance is the one that causes the problems

no Julia! Religions/societies respecting other religions/societies is still utopia. Past showed us, present shows us and future will show us that! dont you know?? noone should have known anything. everyone should act as if s/he is not a human rather s/he is a robot that can do whatever he likes.thats free speech. it is very important.even more important than humanity and human properties like respecting each other. :)

Maybe I'm not talking about reality....maybe I talk about how it should be....I mean that they SHOULD respect each other!I know that in the past,now and in the future they WON'T! :)

You're talking about examples like that - in my example the virgin's dying, in your demand to the western world the freedom of speech is dying.

 

I think if the muslims theirselves are not allowed or shouldn't draw a picture of Muhammed.....then the western world or the other religions should definitely not do it aswell!

 

If the muslims are allowed to stone adulterer to death, the western people should be, too?

The christians say "Don't kill" and stuff - but why are they still allowed to kill people who did minor crimes? Shouldn't they accept "our" rules in return?

 

If every "religion" or hemisphere should resepect everything else's rules everywhere would be chaos!

 

but this one is NOT hard to follow!

 

that's no argument - the law during the third reich saying to hush political enemies wasn't hard to follow, as well - but it was still stupid and unlawful (speaking of human base rights) - just like this religious rule we're speaking of. sidenote: I don't wanna compare hitler-laws to the islam and stuff, I just wanted to make this point as clear as possible.

And I don't know where I said that the religions/societies DO respect each other! :huh:

Maybe we are misunderstanding each other now!

Religions should respect the law,no matter what .

That's why a government without official religion is one of the best governments

 

And by the way,Bible said that their followers should respect the law!

--virgin's dying.

--the muslims are allowed to stone adulterer to death.

--why are they still allowed to kill people who did minor crimes

 

sorry i cant take myself laughing.

Another thing that does not help is the bad information that is had of other religions and countries

and im sick and tired of discussing "utopias" and "imaginary religions". i have already said what im thinking of...

If the muslims are allowed to stone adulterer to death, the western people should be, too?

The christians say "Don't kill" and stuff - but why are they still allowed to kill people who did minor crimes? Shouldn't they accept "our" rules in return?

 

If every "religion" or hemisphere should resepect everything else's rules everywhere would be chaos!

 

 

Ok....felix I have to say that this is a very clear and convincing argument!

and I got now what you wanted to tell me the whole time............and I think it is convincing.............but we all know know how important religion for the muslims is and maybe the people who draw the pictures would have known before how the muslims react!That's my opinion..........

the whole riots thing in the middle east is all because muslim extremist wanna stir up some trouble.

--virgin's dying.

--the muslims are allowed to stone adulterer to death.

--why are they still allowed to kill people who did minor crimes

 

sorry i cant take myself laughing.

 

and I'm sorry if I said now it is convincing.....but I don#t know much about muslim rules and laws......

Some of the persons who are fighting are not necessarily followers of this faith,there are a lot of people that just want to fight and they do not care about his or her religion.

--virgin's dying.

--the muslims are allowed to stone adulterer to death.

--why are they still allowed to kill people who did minor crimes

 

sorry i cant take myself laughing.

 

and I'm sorry if I said now it is convincing.....but I don#t know much about muslim rules and laws......

 

Well, I'm kind of sure, that he doesn't know as well what's going on beyond the surface and the borders.

No offense in purpose, by the way.

can any of the religions allow those acts???