The Twisted Logic Tour Sucked

[razors_girl23]

Fucking brilliance this tour was. I have no freaking idea why any fan would complain. Sure they dont play some songs like Shiver and AROBTTH but they cant play all night and they have 3 albums to cover. As for changing the setlist, their shows are such a massive massive production, how could they possibly keep changing the setlists for all the gigs and still put on the absolutely amazing show (lights etc) that they have done?? It would be impossible. In short, some people would die to go to the concerts and couldnt get there, dont take it for granted. I counted down the show for 10 months and was not disappointed in the slightest. And I sung for all those fans who couldnt make it cause I felt for them.

[chill22]

i wouldnt say the shows on this tour sucked because they were great and a lot of work goes into the shows so its hard to change up but if they ever want to become one of the best bands in the world they are going to have to find a way to play more variety of songs. They have three albums to work with and playing basically the same setlist for the past year is certainly not world class to me. As a fan you would at least think that they could figure something out with all the money they have and still be able to play different songs every night while still putting on the whole big production. They need to go away from trying to put on a "show" beacuse thats not what live music is about and certainly being a huge band you think they wouldve figured that out by now. using light shows and big productions as an excuse for why they cant change up the set list is a poor excuse because radiohead happens to put on a fantastic production and plays different setlists every night. i think its bullshit that coldplay puts on this whole big staged act, and as much as i love them i think its ridiculous and it is probably the only thing i can find to not like about them.

[razors_girl23]

I'm speechless. Why are people never happy? They put on a fucking brilliant show (one I'm willing to travel thousands of km's to see for the third time in 2 weeks). I dont know why you people complain. Be happy that you get to see them live at all cause some people arent so bloody lucky!!!!

[TraceOddity]

I'm speechless. Why are people never happy? They put on a fucking brilliant show (one I'm willing to travel thousands of km's to see for the third time in 2 weeks). I dont know why you people complain. Be happy that you get to see them live at all cause some people arent so bloody lucky!!!!

EXACTLY!!! And as I've said before on this thread, they do change 1 or 2 song on their setlist. They did Shiver when I saw them last year. Haven't heard them do AROBTTH, but others have.

 

Each tour is unique and special for its own reasons, and those of us who have the opportunity to see them should be grateful!!!

 

Ir's already been said here, but i'll repeat it. The kind of work and choreography that goes into these huge arena show doesn't leave alot of room for changes. They change alot more from one night to the next than most bands doing tours of this magnetude, all the while, fighting to keep ticket prices more affordale than say Madonna, U2 or the Rolling Stones.

[Adam BK]

EXACTLY!!! And as I've said before on this thread, they do change 1 or 2 song on their setlist. They did Shiver when I saw them last year. Haven't heard them do AROBTTH, but others have.

 

Each tour is unique and special for its own reasons, and those of us who have the opportunity to see them should be grateful!!!

 

Ir's already been said here, but i'll repeat it. The kind of work and choreography that goes into these huge arena show doesn't leave alot of room for changes. They change alot more from one night to the next than most bands doing tours of this magnetude, all the while, fighting to keep ticket prices more affordale than say Madonna, U2 or the Rolling Stones.

 

Yeh, I dont know how it is in the US. But General Admission for U2 cost me $99 (australian dollars) and 120 for Coldplay. So not exactly more affordable.

[razors_girl23]

Sure but it's only $20 difference and I've heard of tickets for people like Barbara Streisand (sp?) etc go for like $200 or $300. Considering Coldplay's set up would cost a hell of a lot more than those types of singers, I'd consider the money affordable (this coming from someone in considerable debt), justified and well worth it!

[chill22]

it doesnt make sense to pay 90 dollars a night to see the same 'show' twice like i did when they came to chicago or in the area. I think thats bogus and i feel that the band is ripping off its fans and could do way better considering money really isnt an issue for them. Live music isn't about putting on a 'show' its about the music, thats why its called a concert. It shouldnt be some planned out act that never changes, if i wanted that i would go see a play on broadway. Im not saying dont spend money to see them, i just think there is a whole lot more that could be done on their part instead of putting on the same show every signle night. To me there really is no justification to seeing them more than once because once you have seen one show, then you've seen them all. It's music not a play and i dont care what the stones, u2 or anyone else does because a certain band called radiohead, who acctually went on a stadium/ampitheatre tour in 2003 following the release of hail to the theif, didnt play the same setlist every single night.. Radiohead could just as easily sell out these types of venues yet they choose to play theatres every night. In my opinion coldplay has some work to do and paying 90 dollars in America to see the same thing more than once and then sitting back and saying that you are happy with it to me is a bit crazy.

[TraceOddity]

Big bands on big labels have very little control over ticket prices...and I said they TRIED to keep them affordable...i.e. keeping them out of the hands of scalpers, etc. And yes, I know that backfired on them...

 

The average gross for a night is around $700,000 and of that, the band end up with a good deal less than half. If I can find the exact break-down, I'll post it.

 

The band pays for: busses, tractor-trailers, roadies, staff, venue, promotor fees, merchandise, aircraft in Coldplay's case, mostly they use their own eqippment, taxes on revenue, union guys to do rigging etc, lighting, lighting techs, sound techs, instrument techs,...the list goes on and on and on...am I making my point that Coldplay are not getting rich off the backs of their fans?

[alyssa]

Big bands on big labels have very little control over ticket prices...and I said they TRIED to keep them affordable...i.e. keeping them out of the hands of scalpers, etc. And yes, I know that backfired on them...

 

The average gross for a night is around $700,000 and of that, the band end up with a good deal less than half. If I can find the exact break-down, I'll post it.

 

The band pays for: busses, tractor-trailers, roadies, staff, venue, promotor fees, merchandise, aircraft in Coldplay's case, mostly they use their own eqippment, taxes on revenue, union guys to do rigging etc, lighting, lighting techs, sound techs, instrument techs,...the list goes on and on and on...am I making my point that Coldplay are not getting rich off the backs of their fans?

 

PWN3D.

[TraceOddity]

PWN3D.

Sorry, I feel like an idiot, but I don't know what that means...

[coldplay_steph]

It means 'Owned'. :wink:

 

 

What you said is so true. :cool:

[TraceOddity]

THanks. I didn't know what 'lol' meant until a couple of years ago...lol

[razors_girl23]

it doesnt make sense to pay 90 dollars a night to see the same 'show' twice like i did when they came to chicago or in the area. I think thats bogus and i feel that the band is ripping off its fans and could do way better considering money really isnt an issue for them. Live music isn't about putting on a 'show' its about the music' date=' thats why its called a concert. It shouldnt be some planned out act that never changes, if i wanted that i would go see a play on broadway. Im not saying dont spend money to see them, i just think there is a whole lot more that could be done on their part instead of putting on the same show every signle night. To me there really is no justification to seeing them more than once because once you have seen one show, then you've seen them all. It's music not a play and i dont care what the stones, u2 or anyone else does because a certain band called radiohead, who acctually went on a stadium/ampitheatre tour in 2003 following the release of hail to the theif, didnt play the same setlist every single night.. Radiohead could just as easily sell out these types of venues yet they choose to play theatres every night. In my opinion coldplay has some work to do and paying 90 dollars in America to see the same thing more than once and then sitting back and saying that you are happy with it to me is a bit crazy.[/quote']

 

I'll never get this (twisted?) logic :stunned:

[aaaaaa]

I am sure that all of you whose first coldplay show was during this tour will disagree but compared to the AROBTTH tour it was crap.

The shows during Twisted Logic tour were too planned, there was nothign spontaneous about them. If you look at the setlists for the shows they are all basically the same, they might have included how you see the world in there towards the end but it is always the same songs, the yellow ballons are always there, and the encore is always the same. Besides the fact that chris changes the lyrics slightly depending on the city, there is no way to tell the difference between the shows

Also, does anyone remember gravity? what about ladder to the sun? or even moses? What unreleased song have we gotten from this tour? None, maybe How you see the world but that was released in japan and that charity album.

 

plus they didnt go to south america, I live in the states so i got to see them twice but i am from ecuador and i know plenty of people who were dissapointed with their decision not to tour latin america at all

 

Shove your negative opinions up your arse and have a banana, wanker.

[busybeeburns]

yeah very pleasant. It's an opinion and if you want to continue to post here i suggest you respect it ;)

[razors_girl23]

Lol um, short and succinct I spose :laugh3::shocked2:

[Adam BK]

Sure but it's only $20 difference and I've heard of tickets for people like Barbara Streisand (sp?) etc go for like $200 or $300. Considering Coldplay's set up would cost a hell of a lot more than those types of singers' date=' I'd consider the money affordable (this coming from someone in considerable debt), justified and well worth it![/b']

 

I didnt say it was a problem, just defending U2. I love U2 as well and was happy for such a big band with a huge set to have a very good price. I just gotta pray that they do end up coming. In the end of the day they are two of my favourite bands and it didnt worry me the price difference as there was no way I would miss such an opportunity to see them live. If I wasnt such a big fan though it may have detered me.

[razors_girl23]

Fair enough :)

[chill22]

if i wasnt such a big coldplay fan i probably wouldnt have a problem. every chance i have to see them, im going to go or at least try my best to go, but i just wish they wouldnt play the same thing every time i see them as hippocritical as that is, i just feel a bit slighted thats all.

[razors_girl23]

I spose that makes sense. I suppose it would be better if they played different songs for those of us who see more than one show. They do have to please the masses however, which means mostly the same set. If only they could cater to us die hard fans hehe.

[Little Miss Clumsy]

chill22, I understand that it would be nice for you to have a variety of songs played at the concerts (and for all other fans who go to a lot of Coldplay's concerts) but they do change it a little and in the end, I don't care if they play the same songs at other concerts. I care about the time that i had. I had an amazing time the night that I went and I can honestly say that I would go to a concert of their's every night for a year and wouldn't get sick of it (even though I would get a HUGE dent in my bank account).

 

However, I don't like that you seem to be blaming the band (even if that's just my interpretation) because they really can only play a certain amount of songs live and they've got to choose the ones that they can stand playing every night and that have been reasonable favourites to fans. Most people only go to one or two shows and that is what Coldplay is probably counting on so they aren't going to worry about playing the same songs because not everyone in the audience will be there every night.

 

Plus... Coldplay aren't Radiohead. I know that you're just giving a comparison but whatever the reason may be, Coldplay don't have the opportunity or ability to play different songs each night. In any case, I've heard mostly good things about the concert and I hate that there are so many people picking at the bad things when really they should be rejoicing that they got to see Coldplay live!

 

I think that it was an excellent concert and the band truly tried their best to keep it personal for the audience. For example, I went to the 27th June concert here in Australia and we had lost to Italy in the football that morning (should have won - very questionable penalty in the last 10seconds of the game). Chris mentioned throughout the night many things regarding the game. He said "We f***ing hate spaghetti anyway", he changed the lyrics in GPASUYF to "It shouldn't have been a penalty in the first place", he introduced Don't Panic as a song about a "British rock band who have to play to a depressed country", he told us to sing our sadness away and for the encore the band came out wearing Socceroos jerseys. I think that those little jokes, quotes and other personal touches are excellent and although concerts are about music, they would be very boring if all the band did was stand there and play.

 

So I don't think anyone should be complaining about the concert, about Coldplay, or accusing the band of ripping everyone off. (I mean, come on, they believe in Fair Trade, why would they condone ripping off fans?)

 

Please, chill22, don't take this as a direct target to you... I was just using what you said because it was the freshest example in my head. I'm writing this as a general thing...

[Lifelike]

The shows during Twisted Logic tour were too planned' date=' there was nothign spontaneous about them.[/quote']

 

I disagree. You can't predict them. Chris Martin's dance moves ALONE make for enough spontaneity for the entire show. I've always found something new to like about both shows. And the set list did vary, if only a little, and it was enough to make me happy.

 

And remember, since X&Y, a lot of new fans have jumped on the Coldplay bandwagon (lol pun), therefore, a lot of people were looking forward to hearing live versions of songs off the album. I agree, an unreleased song may have added some spice, but How You See The World is still quite a rare song for the average listener's ears (I hadn't heard it before until I went to the show). I think they were warming up the newer fans, so that they'd be more into hearing new/unreleased songs.

 

Just my opinion. =shot=

[razors_girl23]

^ Very true. They played How You See The World in Adelaide and people were all standing there with stunned looks on their faces. I was the only one singing it lol.

[huntjd]

hmm yeah... about the ticket prices... i would not be suprised at all if coldplay donates a fair percentage to make trade fair and other charities so its not so bad. and how many times in ones life will someone get to see coldplay? make the most of it i say! if only i had more money to go to another concert... beatles only toured australia once, same with zeppelin and pink floyd. plus alot of the time great bands break up really early in the piece after only 5-10 years. i dont wanna curse the band saying that... lol but it has happened.

DON'T EVER BREAK UP COLDPLAY!!