Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 PATRIOT PERSPECTIVE Why such a categorical rejection? Not because of McGovern's "cut and run" opposition on Vietnam (though his association with traitors such as Kerry and his hippie/yippie groupies did not play well with Middle America), but because he was a "retreat and hide" isolationist. Despite America's woes in Vietnam, it was clear to most Americans in 1972, Republican and Democrat, that our nation faced a formidable global threat—the Soviet Union—and that the USSR's global objective was to defeat United States militarily, economically and philosophically. Some three decades hence, a new breed of uber-Leftist isolationists has emerged, cultivated by a vociferous cadre of traitorous Demo-gogues. So strident are these turncoats that not only are they targeting Republicans, who understand that Operation Iraqi Freedom is the front line with today's global menace, Jihadistan, but they are targeting their own, as McGovern did in 1972. To wit, this week's Demo Senate primary in Connecticut, where Senator Joe Lieberman, who supports OIF, was defeated by isolationist Ned Lamont. Lieberman's defeat sent a loud shot over the bow of all Democrats who would dare cross the new breed of McGovernites. Hillary Clinton, who also has supported U.S. policy in Iraq as a purely political calculation, has recalculated and now insists Iraq was a mistake. It is no small irony that, just one day after Lieberman's defeat and Clinton's flip-flop, British authorities arrested 24 Jihadis of Pakistani origin, members of a terrorist cell who, in a matter of days, were prepared to execute a plan to bomb ten international flights inbound to the U.S. The attack mirrored a similar plan outlined by 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and his nephew, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, foiled back in 1995. (Al-Qa'ida member Ramzi, you recall, organized the first attack on the World Trade Center back in 1993, and evaded capture until his arrest in Pakistan in 1995.) The intervention and arrests reflect an extensive international intelligence dragnet operation against Jihadi terrorists, including significant cooperation with Pakistan, where additional conspirators were arrested. Such threats notwithstanding, the latest strain of isolationists are too intellectually challenged, or disingenuous, to grasp the fact that the U.S. and our Western allies are confronting a global enemy today that, in some significant respects, is more dangerous than the Soviet Union. The nuclear threat posed by the USSR was symmetric, emanating from a distinct nation-state with unambiguous political, economic and geographical interests. When a symmetric adversary like the USSR possessed large quantities of WMD and a proven delivery capability, the principal method for preventing their use was deterrence. Throughout the Cold War, the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction stayed offensive strikes, and limited conflicts between communist and democratic nations to conventional warfare. Unfortunately, there is no neat Cold War doctrine like MAD to stave off a nuclear attack from an asymmetric threat like Jihadistan, the objective of which is to kill all infidels and for which martyrdom is a prize. Al-Qa'ida's protagonist, Osama bin Laden, has called for an "American Hiroshima" in which al-Qa'ida cells detonate multiple nukes in U.S. urban centers. Al-Qa'ida has made it clear that they will use any means at hand to disrupt continuity of government and commerce in the U.S. in an effort to impede our influence in the Middle East. As Osama put it, "Why do you use an ax when you can use a bulldozer?... We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us." Osama's lieutenant Sulaiman Abu Ghaith says al-Qa'ida aspires "to kill four million Americans, including one million children." The only counter-proliferation doctrine capable of thwarting this enemy's nuclear aspirations is pre-emption—initiating first strikes on their turf to keep them off our own. This global Jihad threat will not subside until the West has succeeded in eliminating this menace in all its manifestations—al-Qa'ida, Hizballah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Jamaat-Islamiyah, Muslim Brotherhood, et al. Of course, these terrorist organizations will not be subdued unless their state sponsorship is cut off. Hizballah, for example, is little more than an Iranian surrogate, and it is worth noting that Iran's theocratic dictator, Mahmud Ahmadi-Nejad, intimated last week that 22 August is the beginning of the end—doomsday for Israel. Middle Eastern scholar Bernard Lewis, professor emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton, notes that this date is associated with Muhammad's flight to "the farthest mosque" —Jerusalem—before ascending into heaven. The Koran describes this flight as "lighting up the skies of Jerusalem." "This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary the world," writes Lewis, who adds that Ahmadi-Nejad subscribes to an "apocalyptic worldview" based on the Shiite tradition of a 12th "Hidden" Imam Mahdi, kept alive by Allah since last seen in 874 A.D. Shiites expect Imam Mahdi to reappear in a time of global conflagration. "Ahmadi-Nejad," says Lewis, "sees himself as Allah's instrument to pave the way for Imam Mahdi, and they clearly believe that this time is now." As for Operation Iraqi Freedom, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld noted in congressional testimony this week, "The enemy has called Iraq the central front in the war on terrorism." Rumsfeld continued: "If we left Iraq prematurely—as the terrorists demand—the enemy would tell us to leave Afghanistan and then withdraw from the Middle East. And if we left the Middle East, they'd order us—and all those who don't share their militant ideology—to leave what they call occupied Muslim lands, from Spain to the Philippines, and then we would face not only the evil ideology of these violent extremists, but an enemy that will have grown accustomed to succeeding in telling free people everywhere what to do. We can persevere in Iraq or we can withdraw prematurely, until they force us to make a stand nearer home. But make no mistake: They are not going to give up, whether we acquiesce in their immediate demands or not." In 1940, British PM Neville Chamberlain attempted to opt out of WWII by ignoring the Third Reich. The day after Germany invaded the France, Belgium and the Netherlands, Chamberlain resigned and was replaced by Winston Churchill, who confronted Hitler head on, and preserved Great Britain's charter. The new incarnation of McGovernites want to opt out of the global war with Islamofascists by ignoring the catastrophic threat posed by Jihadistan. They do so at great peril to our Constitution. Quote of the week "The recent arrests that our fellow citizens are now learning about are a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation." —President George Bush (The Council on American-Islamic Relations issued an immediate objection to the President's reference to "Islamic fascists". Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR protested, "We have to isolate these individuals because there is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic faith that encourages people to be cruel or to be vicious or to be criminal. Muslims world wide know that for sure." We are left to ponder, then, why every Islamic leader in the U.S., and the world, does not publicly condemn this and every terror action being undertaken in the name of the god of Islam.) On cross-examination "It is disturbing, an unfortunate and significant development, that Democrats would purge a man like Joe Lieberman. It would seem to say a lot about the state of the [Democrat] party [that they believe] that somehow we can retreat behind our oceans." —Vice President Dick Cheney on the reemergence of Leftists, who are beating a retreat from the deadly conflict with Islamofascists around the world Open query "We are fighting a global war against international terrorists because the terrorists are engaged in a global jihad against infidels. The scariest thing about it is that a good many people in this country believe we actually have the luxury of opting out. Why else would the Left be so quick to declare moral equivalence between the actions of the Hizballah terrorist aggressors and those of Israeli defenders? Why else would 'more than a third of the American public suspect that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East' (according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll)?" —David Limbaugh The BIG lie "The Iraq war has diverted our focus and more than $300 billion in resources from the war on terrorism and has created a rallying cry for international terrorists. This latest plot demonstrates the need for the Bush administration and the Congress to change course in Iraq and ensure that we are taking all the steps necessary to protect Americans at home and across the world." —Harry Reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 "In 1940, British PM Neville Chamberlain attempted to opt out of WWII by ignoring the Third Reich. The day after Germany invaded the France, Belgium and the Netherlands, Chamberlain resigned and was replaced by Winston Churchill, who confronted Hitler head on, and preserved Great Britain's charter." a lesson we should have all learned from ww2, sadly most did not and it will repeat itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosaiqa Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 "The new incarnation of McGovernites want to opt out of the global war with Islamofascists by ignoring the catastrophic threat posed by Jihadistan. They do so at great peril to our Constitution." hot damn, they've created their own GD language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 No they havent...lol. they just use alot of big words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosaiqa Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 mcgovernites islamofacists jihadistan lol these made me laugh my ass off. they're probably never ever going to be used in context again unless they're talking about terrorists and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 mcgovernites islamofacists jihadistan lol these made me laugh my ass off. they're probably never ever going to be used in context again unless they're talking about terrorists and what not. like i said big words...nothing wrong with being articulate. very smart people right that article. both sides do it though, neocons and other made up words to support what they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 so when did making up words mean 'articulate'??? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 This article make me sick At first,this article intend to mix the facts together Second,the article intend to make new expressions to effect on who read it like [ Jihad,Jamaat-Islamyiah ] [ this words written as they spelling in Arabic longuge] and who written it know that there are English translation for it,not just it [ who written this words use this words but in English ] Jihad [ in Arabic ] = Holy War [ in English ] and this word MR.Bush use it when he talk about the war on terorr Jamaat-Islamyiah [ in Arabic ] = Islamic Groups [ in English ] This article try to make a nasty compare between the the USSR or the Nazi and who resist and defend his land This article make who read it like there is no threat who make a big threaten on the Western except the Islam,and everyone no it's a big lie and who didn't know read [ The Turner Diaries ] and remember Timothy Mcvigh This article depend on the fear of USA people and always make them feel the fear [ of course to do what they want to do ] and always tell that the terrorists have a nuks [ foolish ] This article talked about the fear of Western from the Islamic threaten and didn't talk about Israel and here threat on the peace of the world and trying by all ways to defend Israel without who read this lines feel This article didn't talk about the Israeli attempet to control the world [ I think they made it] and who didn't belive that,go and read [ The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ] If the Iraqi war coasted $300 Billion,I'm sure that the Iraqi petrol gained more than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 so when did making up words mean 'articulate'??? :lol: never did, and i never said that. they are very articulate using non made up words. you really cant spin well, you need to work on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 This article make me sick At first,this article intend to mix the facts together Second,the article intend to make new expressions to effect on who read it like [ Jihad,Jamaat-Islamyiah ] [ this words written as they spelling in Arabic longuge] and who written it know that there are English translation for it,not just it [ who written this words use this words but in English ] Jihad [ in Arabic ] = Holy War [ in English ] and this word MR.Bush use it when he talk about the war on terorr Jamaat-Islamyiah [ in Arabic ] = Islamic Groups [ in English ] This article try to make a nasty compare between the the USSR or the Nazi and who resist and defend his land This article make who read it like there is no threat who make a big threaten on the Western except the Islam,and everyone no it's a big lie and who didn't know read [ The Turner Diaries ] and remember Timothy Mcvigh This article depend on the fear of USA people and always make them feel the fear [ of course to do what they want to do ] and always tell that the terrorists have a nuks [ foolish ] This article talked about the fear of Western from the Islamic threaten and didn't talk about Israel and here threat on the peace of the world and trying by all ways to defend Israel without who read this lines feel This article didn't talk about the Israeli attempet to control the world [ I think they made it] and who didn't belive that,go and read [ The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ] If the Iraqi war coasted $300 Billion,I'm sure that the Iraqi petrol gained more than this yeah sorry, the jews arent out to rule the world. thats a fairy tale told to you by your religous extremist to make you hate them. you've been taught your whole life jews are evil. you have been brainwashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 i do believe she said Israeli, and not Jewish, attemp to rule the world.... There are plenty of Jewish people all over the world who have no quarrel with anybody! Same with Muslim people, she was simply pointing out her view on ISRAEL, not the entire Jewish faith. or not, maybe im wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 i do believe she said Israeli, and not Jewish, attemp to rule the world.... There are plenty of Jewish people all over the world who have no quarrel with anybody! Same with Muslim people, she was simply pointing out her view on ISRAEL, not the entire Jewish faith. or not, maybe im wrong either way, israel isnt out to rule the world. but im not dumb, maladi has been taught israel is a jewish nation and jews are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 im not sure thats everything, maybe shes just been taught that Israel is an enemy of their nation, and that they are to be hated. They both hate each other though, its not just one sided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 But really, neither of us can speak for her, she feels how she feels and thats just how it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 But really' date=' neither of us can speak for her, she feels how she feels and thats just how it is...[/quote'] we can when i've seen 500 post on hers. when she thinks its ok for her nation to invade and conquer but not for a jewish nation to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 im not sure thats everything' date=' maybe shes just been taught that Israel is an enemy of their nation, and that they are to be hated. They both hate each other though, its not just one sided[/quote'] no, but one side has a good reason to. while the other does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 its not for us to decide whether it is a good reason or not. people all over the world (non muslims) just for various reasons, who is to judge whether it is a good reason or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Oh mrcool You old member here and I think you know I'm a Male not Female;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 haha i see that pic and i think u are a girl!! my bad, i thought that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Oh mrcool You old member here and I think you know I'm a Male not Female;) i heard him call you a girl so i thought so. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 its not for us to decide whether it is a good reason or not. people all over the world (non muslims) just for various reasons' date=' who is to judge whether it is a good reason or not.[/quote'] my point is its a anti semetic issue, its ok for arabs to do it but not for jews. what if i were to tell you its ok for whites to live but not for blacks? you'd think i was a racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 damn right i would!! haha ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 lol thats good to hear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon313 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 quick question, whos that guy for your avatar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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