Hey guys, here is my take on this one:

http://soundcloud.com/oliviersavoy/cb-5/s-x0Ju1

 

The beginning is a liitle missed!

Hope you'll like it!

Constructive criticism please!

I'll give a better version soon!

 

 

EDIT: NEW TAKE HERE

1 - it's too slow

2 - never again try to imitate an instrument with your voice!! :D seriously

3 - you have a strong accent, so i don't really like your voice (e.g. "smiiithereeens", i dislike it)

4 - you miss a lot of notes

5 - the drums are wrong (and i hardly hear a bass, i'll have another listen later)

6 - mixing & mastering is bad, the lead guitar is nearly inaudible at times while the rhythm guitar is too present - is that an electric guitar?? it doesn't sound acoustic at all...

 

sounds worse now than it is, there is a lot of potential, keep on working (especially issue 6 will contribute a lot of quality if it's improved)

1- Yes I know a bit too slow but whatever! ^^

2- I don't follow you with this one! Which part?

3-You found "smithereens" too strong?

4- tell me which notes!

5-I don't want want to copy the original it's a cover not a copy! And there is no bass for the moment! :D

6-As I said it's not finished! ^^

it's a bit off time as you already know (generally a bad idea to distribute something that has something wrong with it!) but I think it's a very great effort nonetheless! :)

 

Next time, record with the click track for added win! :D

1 - Too slow - yes

2 - Yes

3 - Voice. Well, yes your accent is quite bad you have to work on it. While I found smithereens not that bad, the other words were quite hmm...shallow.

4 - Yes. And well you wanted to sing it the way Chris did, but you altered the length of words and that wasn't good. What I liked was definitely "oooh"

5 - Drums. I'm not saying anything because I'm critic to everyone who isn't Will Champion xD

6 - Instruments sound like crap.

 

Of course you're able to do it and you've got what it takes, but you went into whole other direction than you should. Work on it again

it's a bit off time as you already know (generally a bad idea to distribute something that has something wrong with it!) but I think it's a very great effort nonetheless! :)

 

Next time, record with the click track for added win! :D

 

Sure will!

Just wanted to share it to know what you all think! :D

 

I'm not a drummer that's why! :D

For my accent can't do really better as I'm french not english! ^^

And it's not an acoustic guitar but an electric one! I'll try to make the best I can with what I have! :D

 

Edit: and the part you said I imitate an instrument with my voice is in fact one voice in the original one just remixed! It's the continuation of chris's voice speeded up!

Okay no problem, I know that being on drums if you work in musical section is quite hard.

Of course you can you just have to practice and talk in English more often.

Working on that because I'm recording a CD in studio with my band, original songs in english!

You can listen to previews in our website: starlightsunshine.com

Eh, you're a good band but still your accent is quite bad. Although Don't Panic cover wasn't perfect (lack of percussion and piano, wrong guitar and good bass though) I see that the level of your instrumental music is quite high. So it's a shame that vocals don't match that level. That's what your band should aim at as soon as possible. And I wish you of course good luck with all that.

Thx very much! Will work on that! :D

1 - it's too slow

2 - never again try to imitate an instrument with your voice!! :D seriously

3 - you have a strong accent, so i don't really like your voice (e.g. "smiiithereeens", i dislike it)

4 - you miss a lot of notes

5 - the drums are wrong (and i hardly hear a bass, i'll have another listen later)

6 - mixing & mastering is bad, the lead guitar is nearly inaudible at times while the rhythm guitar is too present - is that an electric guitar?? it doesn't sound acoustic at all...

 

sounds worse now than it is, there is a lot of potential, keep on working (especially issue 6 will contribute a lot of quality if it's improved)

 

Stop being an arschloch. the guy clearly asked for constructive criticism, and all I see here are put downs. Now let's see your cover of charlie brown or else don't say anything next time.

 

Ols54, if you're recording in pro tools (practically the industry standard for mixing here in NA, not so much recording. But it is perfectly fine to record in), a great way to get some electric guitar sounds is to download a program called "amplitube" and run it as a plug-in in pro tools. It's a program that allows you to choose which kind of amp you're recording with, without having an actual amp. What you do is run your guitar straight into your audio interface (Mbox for pro tools). But if you are already in the studio, just let the engineer handle all of that.

 

As for the drums, I have a feeling you didn't go with MIDI on this one. If you do drums through a midi controller, along to a click track, you should be able to clean it up using beat detective in pro tools and find a good sections and just loop certain parts of the song. If you are using a real drummer, they will most certainly need a click track and multiple takes. This is normal.

 

Bass - depending on what style you are playing, you'll probably wanna boost these frequencies to really hear it in the mix: Finger picking (Boost 1K), using a pick (boost 2K) and for slap bass (although i doubt there's any in charlie brown, boost 5K)

 

Mixing - leave that to the engineers. Although they should be open to suggestions about the sound you want.

 

And one of the most important things when doing studio recordings in pro tools is to add the "Dither" plug in after you are done mixing, especially if you plan on putting your songs on CDs.

^you'd better mind your language ...and don't be impertinent -.-*

 

i pointed out what needs improvement or should not be done, i also mentioned that it's not as bad as you might think when reading this.

 

1 - saying that it's too slow isn't wrong - implies: speed it up

2 - in the original record from coldplay you have an... "ahuu" whatever part in the background, and he tried to do that with his voice which did not work out.

3 - the accent clearly is a problem, i'm not the only one who thinks that. on professional recordings, the voice should be appropriate, too, so he'd have to work on that as good as possible in order to be ready for a good recording.

4 - again, plain fact.

5 - said the drums are wrong --> listen to the song again and give it another try. he replied it's a cover, so he likes the drums and that's okay. you definitely can do it that way, it only sounds different.

6 - clearly pointed out what's wrong. The Champion found another way of telling what he thinks, i chose to do it in a more helpful way.

 

if you are able to read and see what's implied by what i'm saying, you'd understand i never meant to put down anyone - and i didn't have the feeling Ols54 regarded it as offensive

Well forgive me for perceiving it as rude when you flat out say things like "i dont really like your voice" and "never try to imitate and instrument with your voice, seriously" and "mixing an mastering is bad". All 3 of those things can easily be an artistic expression. So yes, I did find your comments really rude wether you think so or not.

 

Let me help you:

 

"i don't really like your voice" - The vocal tone you are using doesn't really match my taste

"never try to imitate an instrument with your voice" - Your use of vocals in the place of an instrument was interesting

"the mixing and mastering is bad" - The mix could use a little work, but it will get there

thx for defense TyM218! But I didn't take that as offensive!

Btw I haven't got pro tools! Just have "Live Lite" with my M audio fast track pro for only two weeks so I'm a beginner at this point!!!

It's not done to be a professionnal recording with all instruments and voices mixed and mastered with engineers and all that stuff! So don't expect something perfect! For my voice, it clearly depends on your tastes too, I've got many friends in England who said that I have a good accent!

I'll post another try maybe tomorrow which will be at 140 bpm! (Almost done)

the guitar sound will be more acoustic even if it is an electric one! (Can't take my acoustic one because of the tuning: My strings are very "easy to brake" ones!)

 

The "ahuu" part is speeded up in the original version to make it sound higher and I don't want that! It's clearly a choice so I don't mind if anybody doesn't like it! ^^

 

The recording part I was talking was about my band doing original stuff and it is already recorded and will be soon on itunes! ^^

thx for defense TyM218! But I didn't take that as offensive!

Btw I haven't got pro tools! Just have "Live Lite" with my M audio fast track pro for only two weeks so I'm a beginner at this point!!!

It's not done to be a professionnal recording with all instruments and voices mixed and mastered with engineers and all that stuff! So don't expect something perfect! For my voice, it clearly depends on your tastes too, I've got many friends in England who said that I have a good accent!

I'll post another try maybe tomorrow which will be at 140 bpm! (Almost done)

the guitar sound will be more acoustic even if it is an electric one! (Can't take my acoustic one because of the tuning: My strings are very "easy to brake" ones!)

 

The "ahuu" part is speeded up in the original version to make it sound higher and I don't want that! It's clearly a choice so I don't mind if anybody doesn't like it! ^^

 

The recording part I was talking was about my band doing original stuff and it is already recorded and will be soon on itunes! ^^

 

That's great! I just get a little worked up when these guys have harsher comments but we have yet to see any material from them.

TyM218 as it seems it depends on taste so I can have a different opinion.

I agreed at some points with princesanji cause some of them were really plain.

I'm convinced that those comments were positive:

 

I found smithereens not that bad

What I liked was definitely "oooh"

Of course you're able to do it and you've got what it takes, but you went into whole other direction than you should.

 

I think that Ols54 explained anything and left no doubts so all I questioned was his accent.

Did you still think that I came here to be rude after reading my further comments?

 

That's great! I just get a little worked up when these guys have harsher comments but we have yet to see any material from them.

 

 

We did. Princesanji posted his cover (but it was more like guitar cover) and I posted my tutorials all over the place. But still even if I didn't why should I not judge. Noting out what's wrong or telling what should one improve is quite useful knowledge to that person.

Here is my new take:

here

Tell me what you think of it!

:) good cover, I liked it except it was a little slow at the start

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

Not bad at all i actually enjoyed it! Let me know when you guys have a more updated version thats faster!

 

Edit: Not bad, a lot better then the first version, also I feel as if you are are "rushing" the song; your not letting it flow rather your forcing it to go fast. Also there were times when the guitar was faster then the vocals so just tweak that but other then that: Great bass when the vocals come in, nice lead guitar, and the drums are great!

 

And one more thing: To help with your accent, it's better to think about the meaning of the lyrics rather then how to say them cause when you put emotion into your singing everything starts to take place.

Much better than the first take

Hmm I'll start with the instruments.

Guitars are very good. Really. I love the bass.

But still drums are probably correct but they still sound a little cheap to me.

And there's the singing. Your voice is good as I said but I will point out now what I didn't like/ like about the vocal line/accent:

 

- As Billy mentioned

- Sometimes you seem to slow down the vocal line a little

- Try to pronounce more softly

- Still like the "woooh" part

 

Words/pronouncations that I would change:

- Rather than [ai] pronounce [a] (the begining)

- Pronounce "car" [ka®]

- Pronounce "saw" [sכ] not "so"

- "I saw the lights go down ... standing in front of me" what did you sing here? Cause I was unable to judge if it was "and" or something different

- Second verse was better

- Instead of [mai] sing here [ma]

- "Scare" is pronounced [skeә®] but "scarecrow is pronounced [`skeәkrәu] so get rid of the 'r'

- I would also recommend you to pronounce "bright" like a word bra

- Your "red" sounds to me like "ret"

- Didn't like that you extended the wrong letter of "fire" but the vocal line was good and loud

- Light a fire and then what? I know the lyrics are not certain but it sounded weird to me

- Your "glowing" sound like "glow in"

- Don't pronounce "in" so substantially

- Be more firm pronouncing "spinning"

- All the boys etc. part beside those things I mentioned was very good

- The worst thing in my opinion was how you sang "innocent riot", sorry but it sounded very cheap. Innocent = [`inәsnt] Riot = [`raiәt]

 

Well I know that's much and people will again start saying that I'm rude but that's just my opinion/advice. Follow it or not.

I really like it! I think it's a fabulous cover, especially the second take.

I feel a bit odd, but I really really want to do a breakdown of what I noticed, so here goes I guess....

 

I love your voice, the "accent" is very nice, you do hit notes absolutely fine.

The guitar tone is great, although it could have a bit less reverb and a bit more distortion (personal preference)

The drums are a little off especially in the intro and choruses, but apart from that, they're great, loving the kick in the verse!

The rhythm is great, but in the second take it's not very prominent at all (it took me a while to notice it was actually there!)

Did you use an electric guitar for the bassline? (not a bass) it sounds exactly what I do for a bass. I'm not saying it's bad because I do the same and it does work, although it could be a bit higher in volume (here's a thing I do. I put the treble up, mids down and convert the bass track to mono, sounds great, but it adds prominence, trust me).

It drags a little bit, but apart from that, I do like it!

 

FOLLOWED!

yes this is definitely better!

i fully agree with the Champion. the most important thing now is to work on your accent and timing, because you're off many times ( i think this is what champion means with >you slow down the vocals< ), but then you're good to go...

the sound of the instruments, well, that's personal taste.

I like your cover and I don't really think that your accent is a problem, although it's there. But this can make your own songs to something special, of course only if the listener likes it.

About the timing thing: I also had this problem when I started recording more than only my guitar and I realized that it's mostly bad monitoring. You should try adjusting the monitor volumes and then listen properly to what you recorded previously while recording something new. If you're recording a cover, I recommend you to only use the original song as monitoring sound. However, keep on doing what you do, it's good and could get even better.