General Smut

"Today, through my visit to you, I ask why don't we stretch out our hands with faith and sincerity so that together we might destroy this barrier? Why shouldn't our and your will meet with faith and sincerity so that together we might remove all suspicion of fear, betrayal and bad intentions?" Are these your words or someone elses? And why is it i get the feeling that you wont do that until Israel no longers exists.

Well thousands of people everyday get beat up- odds are that you or someone you know has been beaten up for no reason-its a sign of the times :-( "And he's always saying that he's probably going to get killed in something that's made out to be a car-jacking or similar." Mmm so any accidents that do happen are of you know whos doing.

Well point it out then!

No there wasnt.

But this isnt really going to solve the problem thou is it? They will still believe what they do, but even more so.

Sorry i dont like the bloke, but i dont think a 'public lynching' is the answer. As i said in the other thread To be honest the blokes an idiot, but i do think the time when people stop asking questions about the holocaust is a time when we have stepped back as society. i think 60 years on, we do need to remind ourselves what happened. i myself have learned several new things whilst reading this thread that i did not know before. __________________

To be honest the blokes an idiot, but i do think the time when people stop asking questions about the holocaust is a time when we have stepped back as society. i think 60 years on, we do need to remind ourselves what happened. i myself have learned several new things whilst reading this thread that i did not know before.

They couldnt deport them thou - they didnt have control of the sea. What were they supposed to do? March them thousands of miles from Germany to the East coast of Africa? which wouldve involved kicking the brits out of the mid east and egypt.

Then everythings been said- Give several key points from the speech and we can debate them. Otherwise the thread will go off topic again.

Wikipedia is not a zionist site. Geez Do you even know what a zionist is?

Sorry but the discussion has moved on, its evolved like the 9/11 thread. Threads do that. Well if you want to get back to topic - give us some points

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/final+solution The Madagascar plan Main article: Madagascar Plan At first, vague plans were made in Nazi Germany to ship all European Jews to Madagascar. Adolf Eichmann, in particular, supported this option before the 1942 Wannsee Conference where he was told what the "Final Solution" was to be. SS chief Heinrich Himmler stated, "However cruel and tragic each individual case may be, this method is still the mildest and best, if one rejects the Bolshevik method of physical extermination of a people out of inner conviction as un-German and impossible." ("Madagascar Plan" in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 1990) The plan was to use the British navy after Britain's defeat. However, when the British were not defeated as expected, the Madagascar Plan had to be abandoned. The so-called "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" (German "Endlösung der Judenfrage") refers to the German Nazis' plan to engage in systematic genocide against the European Jewish population during World War II. The term was coined by Adolf Eichmann, a top Nazi official who supervised the genocidal campaign and was tried and executed by Israeli authorities in 1961-62. The implementation of the Final Solution resulted in the most deadly phase of the Holocaust. The expression itself is a typical occurrence of the Nazi newspeak, which made of the Jewish European population a "question" and a "problem" although in reality the only "problem" was the Nazis' will to annihilate them. Mass killings of over one million Jews occurred before the plans of the Final Solution were fully implemented in 1942, but it was only with the decision to eradicate the entire Jewish population that the extermination camps were built and industrialized mass slaughter of Jews began in earnest. This decision to systematically kill the Jews of Europe was made by the time of, or at the Wannsee conference, which took place in Berlin, in the Wannsee Villa on January 20, 1942. During the conference there was a discussion held by a group of Nazi officials to decide on the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question". The records and minutes of this meeting were found intact by the Allies at the end of the war and served as valuable evidence during the Nuremberg Trials. By spring of 1942, Operation Reinhard began the systematic extermination of the Jews, although hundreds of thousands had already been killed by death squads and in mass programs.

When the cease fire came into effect, Israel had lost territory on the east side of the Suez Canal to Egypt (shown in red) but gained territory west of the canal and in the Golan Heights (shown in green). Some Victory

Because the Americans made them! http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Yom+Kippur+War The Security Council of the United Nations passed (14-0) Resolution 338 calling for a cease-fire, largely negotiated between the U.S. and Soviet Union, on October 22. It called for an end to the fighting between Israel and Egypt (but technically not between Syria and Israel). It came into effect 12 hours later at 6:52 p.m. Israeli time. (Rabinovich, 452). Because it went into effect after darkness, it was impossible for satellite surveillance to determine where the front lines were when the fighting was supposed to stop (Rabinovich, 458). When the cease-fire began, the Israeli forces were just a few hundred meters short of their goal—the last road linking Cairo and Suez. During the night, the Egyptians broke the cease-fire in a number of locations, destroying nine Israeli tanks. In response, David Elazar requested permission to resume the drive south, and Moshe Dayan approved (Rabinovich, 463). The Israeli troops finished the drive south, captured the road, and trapped the Egyptian Third Army east of the Suez Canal. The next morning, October 23, a flurry of diplomatic activity occurred. Soviet reconnaissance flights had confirmed that Israeli forces were moving south, and the Soviets accused the Israelis of treachery. In a phone call with Golda Meir, Henry Kissinger asked, "how can anyone ever know where a line is or was in the desert?" Meir responded, "they'll know, all right." Kissinger found out about the trapped Egyptian army shortly thereafter. (Rabinovich, 465). Kissinger realized the situation presented the United States with a tremendous opportunity—Egypt was totally dependent on the United States to prevent Israel from destroying its trapped army, which now had no access to food or water. The position could be parlayed later into allowing the United States to mediate the dispute, and push Egypt out of Soviet influences. As a result, the United States exerted tremendous pressure on the Israelis to refrain from destroying the trapped army, even threatening to support a UN resolution to force the Israelis to pull back to their October 22 positions if they did not allow non-military supplies to reach the army. In a phone call with Israeli ambassador Simcha Dinitz, Kissinger told the ambassador that the destruction of the Egyptian Third Army "is an option that does not exist" (Rabinovich, 487).

It's like if all the people talking about government involvement in terror or their suspect polices and lying were taken off air and the freedom was lost to do so then it really would harm the government as they would be seen as having taken away outlets that could expose what they are doing....you know, they need to allow the impression of a free press. But surely if the government is capable of doing 9/11 then surely it could arrange for someone to have an accident with Mr Jones for example. ( I may not like him but i dont want anything bad to happen to him)Or fit him up on some bogus charges?? Thats gotta be way easier then plotting to kill your citizens on mass.

Well the camps were quite a secretive thing, many Germans who lived nearby had no idea what was going on there! There is no Nazi documents about the holocaust - but you will masses and masses of documents on the final solution This eyewitness of yours - wouldnt happen to be Arab would he? and your family who deny the holocaust as well theyre Arab as well? mmm and who are the Arabs enemys - the Jews. What on earth are they teaching you in Egypt???

Sweetdreams, dont let the bed bugs bite

Yes i have, i brought food for a homeless person. 8/10

San Marino Which team scored the fastest goal ever in international football?

Sad but true. Do you think its actually worth voting? I dont. Maybe local councillars but not the general election.

I wish she'd hurry up and call

I still love how you dismiss mainstream media as being under government control when it debunks your theories yet when it supports your views you right proudly claim it be fact. MMm Still unlike other people in other threads, (i'm giving you credit here Gareth) youve given me a cause to do some research! and this latest piece in particler will need some answers! There was an article about this in todays Metro - have you read it? I only saw the pictures and the headlines looking over someones shoulder and when i asked if i could read it they told me to fook off.

Sorry, i dunno. i could be! Are you normal?

Ive got an IQ of 127 according to the recent BBC test the nation. I should only point out that i watched it because the Leader was on it.