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hahaha. wow. a little extreme now. there are tons of things happening at once in this song, besides the rock quartet thing they've had going on for the last two discs. -processed drums -that skittering synth in the background -handclaps on the & of 3 -the opening messy-as-hell drum fill -the bell tone effects in the "sexy boots" bit -sounds like they gave bono an acoustic and mic'd it during the chorus, and it's actually an important part -the vocal harmonies in this song are, hands down, the most interesting and exciting uses of harmony they've had. there may be more complicated harmonies (I can't think of many, but ok), but none of them have been used in the integral way this song does. -there are three vocal hooks. The "Sexy Boots / Get on your boots," "You don't know how beautiful you are," "Let me in the sound" - so those who say this is typical U2, I'm trying to think of the last time I heard a U2 song and couldn't immediately say, "oh, this is verse-middle 8-chorus repeat". wait, Zooropa. -swagger -a sense of humor -a sense of something exciting being made there's a million things going on. it feels like listening to U2 update itself on everything it's missed over the past 9 years or so. it feels like going to school with them. it may sound reminiscent of U2, but there is nothing calculated about this single, unlike "vertigo" or "beautiful day" - which are both good, but just feel like they are made for iPod commercials, for commercial appeal. this is a big, excitable, honest song. really hard not to like it.

this is not plagarism. every single youtube clip brought up here pitch adjusts the song, so throw those out. in the instrumental hook, joe plays a guitar line that for a couple of notes is exactly what Chris sings in the verse, but then the two lines diverge. We've got three verses and a bunch of choruses on the coldplay song (not to mention, the chorus and the satch song don't share anything in common), so if were really looking at this, if the court is going to let youtube guy's "diatonic theory" excuse hold up, there's maybe 10% that is copied. Instrumentation is completely different, and not one person has brought up the issue that Coldplay and Satch's musical phrasing and treatment of these 4-5 notes are completely different. If you don't pitch adjust the song and you play the two on top of each other, you'll see what I'm saying. but all this is to say: the diatonic theory thing that was being thrown around in here cannot hold up in court. That side holds up that since the progression in the two songs are related and similar - further damning evidence. Coldplay will not get convicted of plagarism if the two progressions USE DIFFERENT CHORDS. Jesus. the chordal backdrop of the songs sound similar, but are not the same. Some people, i.e. me, would say that the chordal movement in the coldplay song is much more satisfying than satch's song. I respect Mr. Satriani, but this is all about money guys. He saw that same youtube clip and decided to make some money. Satch is not a victim. he has been a massive recording artist and has a massive following. everyone who buys or used to buy guitar technique magazines was in love with him at some point, until you realize the man is brutally short on original improvisation or compositional ideas. (although every christmas I do put on his "Silent Night / Holy Night" because its tons 'o' fun). ALL CHORDS ARE RELATED THROUGH DIATONIC THEORY, so let's just go ahead and throw that out.

Umm, what was bad about Eno's influence on the new album? Because I'm trying to think of something that's not "fresh," and for the life of me I can't point to anything that bad. What is it about "Eno's influence" that you didn't like?

is duffy scheduled to be the opener? because *warning* - I just saw her play a festival slot (essentially an opening gig) - she was due to be on 430-515, didn't come on until 510 (because apparently she has so much equipment to soundcheck - she had a 45 minute slot for her soundcheck, went over by another forty-five minutes), and then proceeded to be incredibly boring, annoying, and rude with her banter. Came out to an audience who had waited an extra 40 minutes in the blazing hot sun and preceded to play two extremely slow, low energy songs, and tell us that we weren't clapping enough. of course we weren't, we had nothing to clap for. so in short she was late, rude, boring, and really way over hyped, not to mention the fact that she fucked up the schedule for everyone else on the stage. Be careful. Show up for an opener that's interesting and passionate, at least (santogold).

good show, definitely, but a couple of things bothered me - that boston crowd was tearing it's throat out for coldplay, absolutely going bizonkers, and they still didn't give it anything extra. I'm of the opinion that when a band's got 30.000 people giving them a standing ovation and shaking a concrete building with their yelling, they really should come back out and do one more. also, i just moved to boston, and i found it incredibly disconcerting the extreme vitrol and anger people had towards Santogold. People around me were shouting at her to "shut the f&^* up" and talking about how she sucked on every song. I understand people having different tastes and such, but Santagold's just pop hooks over interesting beats, and I cannot see a reason to scream obscenities at her for putting on a decent opening in an arena. it worries me sometimes that my fellow coldplay fans are closeminded, one-sided, very judgmental people. I really hope that's not the case. The show was good, though. To be honest, I think I might like the Twisted Logic tour better - it seemed paced better, and on this tour I just got the distinct impression that the band was trying to hustle through the set list. That said, Lost! was outstanding, the clocks lightshow from where I was sitting was incredible (for the rest of the night, my apartment mate kept saying "lasers.... lasers..." over and over again while he fell asleep on the T. Good show, just weird that a top selling band with 50 or so official tracks and god knows how many b-sides can't play for longer than ninety minutes. I remember on the offical msgboard someone was ranting about how they only played 90 minute shows, etc, and debs said it was because they only had two or three albums. No longer a good excuse, I think.

what i still don't get, and is the one thing I completely despise about coldplay and their organization, is how ready they are to lie down in the face of some seriously evil corporate shit. for a dude who justly advocates fair trade, he (and the band) seem remarkably placid about a.) this, b.) the massive layoff and firing of EMI employees, c.) the totally backwards non-simultaneous release of their album about 3 weeks later than they should have. Like, this is the kind of nightmare story that old hippies tell their kids when they want them to live on communes. And here's the thing. Coldplay's offering an opening spot on their tour. If that's how they got their start, there'd be no Coldplay. And I can't think of another band that would let this kind of shit go by when they have so much at stake (their newly found cred, and the slight diminishment of the critical hate they usually get). Radiohead? No fucking way this would happen. U2? Paul McGuiness would fuck a band over and then the band would stick up for the openers and turn it around. Really shit to see. Love the music, and I geniunely think Will Champion and the boys are some of the nicest folk I've ever met (got to meet them back on the X&Y tour thanks to a lucky stroke), but I haven't a clue how they can let this stuff slide.

that's horrifying. i wonder whether the band will speak up about how crap that is.

i don't much care about their sales, but good for them. i'm way more happy that they got their cred back. it helps a lot when the world can see how damn hard they worked on this one. also, when they're finally independent from emi, that'll be boss

death and all his friends lost! yes 42 cemetaries of london chinese sleep chant life in technicolor lovers in japan strawberry swing violet hill the escapist viva la vida reign of love

now they're sold out, or ticketmaster isn't working correctly. this is so ridiculous. my choice yesterday was nosebleed BEHIND THE BAND. now nothing. if anyone has 3 tickets to the show, i would be more than willing to buy them off of your hands. I don't want to pay the auction price ticketmaster has up ($250 for a ticket to a coldplay show? gives me that awful, "coldplay's-a-corporation-now" kind of feeling) Please get ahold of me if you've got something. I don't care where it is, just preferably not behind the band.

a.) what we care about is that coldplay put out a good album, which they did, and showed the world, themselves, and the fans, that they are willing to expand themselves. THis is the beginning of the kind of discography that people will look back on. b.) who gives a shit how much they sell. really. they don't need it, and EMI has dicked over thousands of employees, and in staggering the release date needlessly like they have, they asked for bootleggers. You can't have a ramp up like they have for VLV anymore. It's a fantastic album, and that's all that matters. Not a rotten apple in it. i can't believe how worked up people are getting about whether they will or won't hit no. 1. Since when does that matter at all. you buy your album, you enjoy it. VLV will sell a shitload, and keep selling. you all want to support a band that needs your help? when you buy the coldplay album buy every copy of "rising down" by the roots off the shelf, because if they don't move some units, they've got no deal and you can kiss complex hip hop music goodbye, and watch one of the most efficient, creative, and respectful rappers in the world disappear. Go buy a couple dozen copies of "the seldom seen kid" by elbow ( if you live in the US) or "boxer" by the national. Get irate that Lil' Wayne will sell more albums in two days than the roots have in the past 8 years combined. And some of you are sounding incredibly prejudiced with your anger towards Wayne. Like, disturbingly so. So chill. You don't like hip-hop, fine. But that does not mean your opinion is valid.

does anyone else think that CSC's guitars sound wayy too compressed and thin? singer and drums sound fine. just guitars, sound hollow and compressed.

definitely getting a couple copies of the CD and gonna go vinyl hunting at the local wrecka stows the day it comes out. and there's a reason I downloaded the leak, in my twisted little head: I see no reason why the international release dates are all staggered. So the UK gets it on a thursday, which is typically the day new US releases come out. But they don't make it concurrent? there's no reason for the delay. I was just going to download it anyways at that point. Maybe EMI could put a little more work into the consumer side of things. That said, way to put out a corker boys! a disclaimer: having rolled through this board for years without posting, i think way too many people here are really dramatic, fanatical, and stalker-creepy-emotional about coldplay. That said, woke up this morning and played DAAHF, and got really emotional and had a tear or two. not because of some life connection, though there is that, but because the music was incredibly beautiful.

loving it so far. things i don't like, leak-wise: bad compression/bitrate/mix for LiT, Lost, Chinese sleep chant (which sounds great, but sounds underwater except for the drum part), and strawberry swing has a lot of noise artefacts in it. Music wise, though, it's a complete love fest over here. exceptional. weird. catchy. in short, BINGO!

here we go