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That's great. Of course, that ignores the fact that if they really felt that way they would have had adopted language in the governing document that said as much.

i've heard many people say this. could you enlighten me on this issue, for i don't know of any single example that can illustrate such a 'christian values' founding. as of now, i am more of the opinion that if at all, this country was founded by people who were deeply religious...i will accept that. but what's so special about a judeo-christian ethic that's not the same in some other religions? i can learn something here :) Our money, our national anthem, our pledge of allegiance all evoke God. The oath you take in the stand in court evokes God. These are all constructs accepted at the birth of our nation. It's important to note that these not only illustrate the importance of God in the lives of the founder but that they are also not in the Constitution as law.

The U.S. was founded on Christian values. This is true. The U.S. is even based on a Judeo-Christian ethic. This is also true. The founders, though, seemed pretty concern about government endorsement of religion after the Church of England was forced up their ancestors. The language of the constitution seems to be a pretty clear indication that they felt that church should be separate from religion. I'm not sure, however, that this even matters now.

That didn't answer my question. If the country is so Christian, how do you explain the Constitution restricting the influence of any religion on government?

Nikki: There is explicit language in the Constituion regarding religion. How do you reconcile that with your view of the U.S. being "christain"?

yeah, i knew you were refering to musiclover, but i wanted to make sure you knew that your views are respected.

i hope nobody thinks what you're saying is rubbish. i don't. i just don't agree.

I see what you're saying. Two things: 1) You view isn't really a good argument as to why homosexuality is a choice or doesn't exist. All you're saying is that homosexuality is inconsistent with reproduction. I think we can all agree to that. 2) The argument that "if we were all gay" is another huge, inappropriate, red herring. From an evolutionary prespective, that would explaing why homosexuals make up such a small portion of the population. If you think of homosexuality as being akin to the expression of an allele, those number make complete sense. Just a certain small percentage of the world is prone to sickle cell anemia or albnoism, a certain small percentage could be prone to a sexual preference. All three of the conditions mentioned in that sentence are consistent with a "made that way" approach.

hahahahahahahahhaahahahha good comparison

What do you mean by "made that way"? Your bias here is that you feel procedation is a necessary condition for marriage. It seems like marriage and reproducing are not necessarily intertwined. There is a lot of scientific evidence to support the "born that way" point. There is more scientific evidence for that then there is the existence of God. You don't need faith to see that there is a physiological set of conditions which are consistent with those who identify themselves as homosexuals. It doesn't require faith. Quite frankly, if people are willing to believe you in your claims there is a God, you should believe them in there claims that they're gay. Both conclusions require a certain level of trust in the way the other person sees the world.

But Jessy ... the smell is SOO good :P Can't you just imagine it now?

Because they're gay.

The highlights I saw of the saw seems to show whatshername getting somewhat involved in the show to the point of trying to fall in love with at least one of the guys. Then again, I didn't watch the show so that opinion would should probably be disregarded.

No seafood? That seems somewhat un-Nova Scotian. :)

Hey ... don't get profane with me, Ms. Varg. Geez! Such language I've never heard from you!

Ha ha ha

Survey says: BUZZER! Ooooooh ... sorry Gaby.

He name was Dustin Long, a spoonerism of which is Lustin Dong.

My love of my new friend/friends more likely.

Cheater! BTW, nice use of the "Hmm ..." I wonder where you picked that up :D

Dustin's a high-school friend. I'm not exactly sure how he ended up being turtle. I'm sure that predates our friendship.

He looks like my friend Dustin. We used to call him turtle.

PM me about it then. I'm curious.

I don't want to be on any of the lists. I just want to post and talk to people.