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:laugh3: It's also about telling others they are child brainwashers and they hate gays. Even when they blatantly explain why they don't - watch out - that's just a trap! They still do hate gays so make sure you keep attacking them and NEVER admit you may have been wrong!

People are free to believe what they want to believe. Just because someone may believe something religiously based doesn't mean they have had that view point forced on them. I don't support pushing morals onto children. I never said I did support that. In my religion that is a very bad thing to do and children are encouraged to reach their own decisions. If there is any suspicion of a child being force fed some of our values, our temple staff look into it and have a very stern chat to the parents about why it is not a good thing. I cannot speak for other religions. I don't know what they do and unless you've had sufficient experience in the day to day workings of them you have no idea either. Calm down. What do you mean look what they support? Christianity is enormously huge and has all different belief structures. Unitarians don't even believe in hell and they are a huge Christian sect. I'm not going to engage in you with discussion if you keep generalising everybody. Most of my Christian friends do not believe homosexuality is a sin at all, and we've had Christians in this very thread explaining that they do not see anything wrong with homosexuality. If you want to discuss an issue, talk specifics. If you don't know enough to talk specifics, don't discuss the issue. No. Like I said earlier (which I see you haven't read) people from my temple are the only group of people campaigning for gay rights in my home town. I've seen my sister be arrested for her sexuality. I'm frequently involved in outreach problems that provide shelter to homosexuals and I do a lot of work and risk a lot to help because I've seen first hand of what oppressive religious groups can do and I can assure you I've seen and done a hell of a lot on the matter. I have two gay siblings and I have fought tooth and nail to make sure they are respected as human beings. I've been arrested for doing so. You don't know anything about me and you don't know anything about what I believe. Stop implying that I'm attacking homosexual activists - because I'm one of them. Stop implying that I hate gay people. Stop implying that I'm doing anything harmful whatsoever. Stop implying like I'm rallying behind hate. I have no desire to talk to you any further on the matter.

You seem more eager to take a place on a stage somewhere and to have a rant than actually engage in discussion. No where did I say that being disowned isn't destructive. I was expressing the importance of freedom of belief and explaining how it's impossible to be concerned with what others think. You can't stop someone from thinking anything and trying to do so is a breach in their rights as an individual. Jumping around telling people what they can and can't believe only entrenches their mind in the belief they have to begin with. So it's pointless. Flinging abusive tirades at a Christian who has never done one speck of evil in his life towards a gay man is not okay and it's actually counter productive to everyone's goal of equality. He is allowed to view homosexuality however he wishes to view it - and unless he has disenfranchised, attacked or discriminated against someone you can't say anything against him without sounding like the thought police. That's the point I was making. I think you need to calm down. I'm on your side here.

It's because your butt is gross. Anyway we've hijacked this thread with our antics. Do you feel good for this? You shouldn't. Sorry Rainplay, you look beautiful in the dress and you certainly should wear it.

Only from the front my dear, only from the front. And sexual predators don't care about how you look from the front. So pick up your game.

No tight dresses for you then grosso.

Haha I doubt it's true. Pokémon started in like '96 didn't it? I doubt Jonny was active in Japan's video game composition industry back then. That's hilarious though.

Looks great Rainplay, and I don't think it's too tight at all, it looks like it's tight enough to compliment you hips really nicely. Unless you have a gross butt, you'll look great in it. I'd say go ahead you'll look beautiful :) Don't worry so much!

my scariest face. This is what happens when I'm bored at a party. My brother and I. I was trying to teach him how to ride a bike and he was depressed because he couldn't do it very well. My aunt and I.

HAIRCUT TIME YEAH POWER GO GO

You're clearly drop dead gorgeous so why all the "I don't wanna show my face" nonsense? Show it!

No one against religion has started a debate in this thread. I don't see where you've come to that conclusion. But I agree with the rest of your post :).

Ron Paul is the only chance America has of getting rid of Obama. But watch, the Republicans will shoot themselves in the foot once again and nominate someone like Romney.

And Rudy yes you got that right :) Haha it's okay. I asked you if you liked Canada.

That's all I was concerned about :). I have tiny problem with this part as well. You're probably right in guessing that most Christians believe gay people go to hell when they die. But I don't think you're right about saying that belief is "destructive". Unless they are actively going out of there way to deny rights to homosexuals (which I don't believe even a quarter of Christians in the USA are) it's meaningless and there is nothing you can do about it. All you can say is you disagree. I know a lot of Christians who believe homosexuals go to hell and most of them are, strangely enough, incredibly nice and caring when they meet a homosexual. When I ask them about this, they say that they simply see homosexuals the same way they see people who have sex outside of marriage. They think they are sinners, but they don't hate them and they don't wish any harm on them. Is it strange to think that way? Probably. But I don't have a problem with it because I'm not interested in trying to outlaw thoughts or opinions. I'm not going to lock a man up for wanting to kill someone. I'm only going to lock him up if he tries to act on it. Otherwise you are promoting thought police. So I only care about homophobic Christian believes when they are picketing homosexuals funerals or trying to deny them basic civil rights. And I'm very confident in saying most Christians don't do anything like that and nor do they have any interest in doing so. And yes, as much as I disagree with them, I believe they have the right to believe whatever they want about whoever they want. Why am I bringing this up? Because I believe that gay rights advocates are attacking religion in the wrong way. They are bringing up things like what you just said - and all that does is hurt their case because they seem like condescending smug douche bags who are trying to regulate people's thoughts. They ironically stereotype religious people, they spread myths and they act like any religious opinion on their sexuality is WRONG WRONG WRONG! And that's, in my opinion, a huge part of the reason why the gay rights movements across the Western world in the last few years haven't changed much. They're going about it in the wrong way and I know gay people who dislike it as much as I do. Oh hi buddy.

The only force for positive social progression in my country and so many other places comes from religion. People in my religion have been executed for campaigning for feminism and other social issues. My temple back home is one of the only accepting places of homosexuals and domestic abuse victims in the area. Our faith in God allows so many of us to continue to campaign for equality without fear of consequence from the controlling, evil government because we know we are doing God's work and we know we are encouraging peace. Objective peace that is. We work in favour of everyone deserves the right to live openly and happily. To say so confidently that religion is destructive to social issues is horrible because its not true at all. Things are far deeper than they may seem. It doesn't matter if religion is present or not - a bad environment will produce evil rhetoric. Look at the Soviets. Complete atheists and arguably more evil than the Nazis. Homosexuality has been persecuted for thousands of years in the majority of cultures. Why? Because it's different. Human beings fear difference. Being a red head in Scotland is a hell of a lot better than being a red head in Zimbabwe. Females have been persecuted for thousands of years in the majority of cultures. Why? Because they were under the thumb and powerless. Human beings in positions of authority like to keep the powerless powerless and the powerful powerful, and they will justify it with whatever is closest to them. Usually that is religious rhetoric. Sometimes it's political. Sometimes it's just bat shit insane and is a non sequitur. The route of all these problems lie in basic human emotion and basic human faults. Religion may be used to justify it sometimes - but the real reason is far more complicated than "Oh he is religious so he hates fags". Good people will do good things with our without religion and bad people will do bad things. Christianity and Islam contain more than a billion people each. That is over a billion individuals - each with their own thoughts and opinions. The overwhelming majority of them are good people. They do not run around trying to push discrimination onto others. They do not run around spreading hatred. A small few do and pseudo-intellectuals in the USA who believe they are trendy little scientists start saying stupid things like "Religion is totally evil man" and "I'm way too logical to believe in religion" and act like they are better people than those "stupid" Muslims or Christians. If you want to discuss this issue - discuss the specific sect of Christianity that your little friend prescribes to. Don't use blanket terms. One religion can hold literally entirely opposite views to another. Even the same religion can have entirely different view points. "Religion" is probably one of the most vague words in the English language because it can hold literally opposite meanings depending on who you ask and what religion you're talking about. To take such a vague concept and imply that it's "destructive" is illogical. If you want to talk about destructiveness, you need to be far more specific. There are a lot of good religious people in the world fighting for this cause and many of them are doing a hell of a lot more than you or anyone else on this forum is. Some of them are even dying for it. Every time you act like religion is solely to blame, whether you meant to imply it or not, you do them all a disservice.

مرحبا مريم. هل مثل كندا

مرحبا بالجميع So happy I found this thread! I'm an Algerian and I thought I was one of the only arabic speakers on here. Guess I was wrong!

I just bought a robot named Steve he makes spaghetti whenever I want. But he doesn't understand that I only like thin spaghetti. He insists on making me thick spaghetti. I wonder how far he will continue to test me. Everytime he serves me the spaghetti here says "Here is your THIN spaghetti" in the most condescending voice imaginable. And every single time it is actually thick spaghetti. I think I'll wait until he falls asleep tonight. Then I'll enter his den and club him to death with a wooden mallet. I will be his undoing. Dammit, Steve.

I personally think the story is more depressing than uplifting, but I'm glad you were motivated and inspired by him - that's all that counts. You're the bestest :)

Be thankful you have a mother to begin with - let alone one who loves you enough to "control" you in the first place. She's only trying to do what she feels is best for you and I have no doubt she loves you.

Well that's what happens when you call different albums "eras". It's so pretentious Chris feels a lot of pressure so he resorts to dark things.

I really, really, really don't want to work today. I mean I really, really, really don't want to. I want to study, work on my university work and contribute to society. I want to create goals and move forward. I don't want to work in retail for nine hours. Bleh.

I didn't like Mylo Xyloto's cover. It looked like it was done by a high school studnet and it seemed contrived. Now I'm going to swirl some wine around and review other things that don't matter.

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. The amount of spam in this thread is scary. I will contribute: Duck.Hippo.Swan.