Egghead Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php Sunday, September 11th, 2005 A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore To All My Fellow Americans Who Voted for George W. Bush: On this, the fourth anniversary of 9/11, I'm just curious, how does it feel? How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows? That's right. Horse shows. I really want to know -- and I ask you this in all sincerity and with all due respect -- how do you feel about the utter contempt Mr. Bush has shown for your safety? C'mon, give me just a moment of honesty. Don't start ranting on about how this disaster in New Orleans was the fault of one of the poorest cities in America. Put aside your hatred of Democrats and liberals and anyone with the last name of Clinton. Just look me in the eye and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or catastrophe. I want you to put aside your self-affixed label of Republican/conservative/born-again/capitalist/ditto-head/right-winger and just talk to me as an American, on the common ground we both call America. Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer? When you look at Michael Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, a man with little experience in national security, do you feel secure? When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a threat that was never there? Do you really believe that turning over important government services to private corporations has resulted in better services for the people? Why do you hate our federal government so much? You have voted for politicians for the past 25 years whose main goal has been to de-fund the federal government. Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD? With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home? Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake. That's not a joke. The day the hurricane hit and the levees broke, Mr. Bush, John McCain and their rich pals were stuffing themselves with cake. A full day after the levees broke (the same levees whose repair funding he had cut), Mr. Bush was playing a guitar some country singer gave him. All this while New Orleans sank under water. It would take ANOTHER day before the President would do a flyover in his jumbo jet, peeking out the window at the misery 2500 feet below him as he flew back to his second home in DC. It would then be TWO MORE DAYS before a trickle of federal aid and troops would arrive. This was no seven minutes in a sitting trance while children read "My Pet Goat" to him. This was FOUR DAYS of doing nothing other than saying "Brownie (FEMA director Michael Brown), you're doing a heck of a job!" My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of the world? And on this sacred day of remembrance, do you think we honor or shame those who died on 9/11/01? If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning, then did the 3,000 die in vain? Our vulnerability is not just about dealing with terrorists or natural disasters. We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever. Are we safe? Do you really feel safe? You can only move so far out and build so many gated communities before the fruit of what you've sown will be crashing through your walls and demanding retribution. Do you really want to wait until that happens? Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away? I know you know better. You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it. Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has to be fixed. What do you propose? I have an idea, and it isn't a horse show. Yours, Michael Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilchick629 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kekita Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 thanks for that haven't checked his site in a while. ha horse shows :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Justine* Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Michael Moore is my hero. :dozey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritRock Lover Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I LOVE MICHAEL MOORE! Ok, not like it sounds, but you know. . . I hate bush, let's put it that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 What a wonderful read. Thanks Mike Moore for being a true American and standing up to the powers that be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! sadly thats wrong wheres bin laden? who knows..probably in iran or syria...were never going to catch him..not matter how many troops we use, how many spies and how much money...some things in life you cant fix or solve...or find...no matter what...no matter if the next president is a democrat or a republican or a socialist...its the way things are. I love moore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilchick629 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 d I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! sadly thats wrong wheres bin laden? who knows..probably in iran or syria...were never going to catch him..not matter how many troops we use, how many spies and how much money...some things in life you cant fix or solve...or find...no matter what...no matter if the next president is a democrat or a republican or a socialist...its the way things are. I love moore! wait a min----i'm confused---wasnt the first goal to go to war bin ladden???? then if there is no way to find him as you say----why arent we bringing back the troops???----ofcourse, because bush made the war about something else...........and then something else..........and then he changed the war goal again.......and again........and lies continue to come from his mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! sadly thats wrong wheres bin laden? who knows..probably in iran or syria...were never going to catch him..not matter how many troops we use, how many spies and how much money...some things in life you cant fix or solve...or find...no matter what...no matter if the next president is a democrat or a republican or a socialist...its the way things are. I love moore! uh.. it was a Republican Senator who said it... I will look for the article.. as for it being 'sadly wrong' please elaborate for the class as to 'why and how' this is wrong... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 here's an interesting little read.. http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/front.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Re: d I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! sadly thats wrong wheres bin laden? who knows..probably in iran or syria...were never going to catch him..not matter how many troops we use, how many spies and how much money...some things in life you cant fix or solve...or find...no matter what...no matter if the next president is a democrat or a republican or a socialist...its the way things are. I love moore! wait a min----i'm confused---wasnt the first goal to go to war bin ladden???? then if there is no way to find him as you say----why arent we bringing back the troops???----ofcourse, because bush made the war about something else...........and then something else..........and then he changed the war goal again.......and again........and lies continue to come from his mouth because were not just there laden....for the taliban and alqueada...bin laden is just one person...there were and are many terrorist there and we had to go in a destroy them and disrupt their terrorist camps....you see... and now we cant leave til the country is more stable...were still looking..im ean it would be stupid and political suicide for us to pull out. Do you get what im saying? the war goal in afganistan HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE DAY ONE! we have NOT changed it AT ALL! its always been about alqeada, bin laden, the taliban and fighting terrorism. FROM DAY ONE TO NOW!. bush hasnt changed it at all. please understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I ask again---- Where is Bin Ladden---- the whole idea of us going to war was to find this man and to protect US from evil iraq----yet, so far, no WMD from iraq, no bin ladden captured, and ironically, we were not completely safe (hurricane katrina) Was this war a failure or is it a success in progress----i'd like to think that all this is going somewhere good :P this war was never about fuckin Bin Laden... it was about protecting their oil resources so that the 'Taliban' didn't take control of 'it'.... I am convinced that this is all about greed and oil. thanks for posting Kyle.. ;) I Normally don't always agree with Moore on things... he can be a bit outrgeous.. lol but I think he hit it on the head here.. kudos Mr. Moore.. kudos!!! sadly thats wrong wheres bin laden? who knows..probably in iran or syria...were never going to catch him..not matter how many troops we use, how many spies and how much money...some things in life you cant fix or solve...or find...no matter what...no matter if the next president is a democrat or a republican or a socialist...its the way things are. I love moore! uh.. it was a Republican Senator who said it... I will look for the article.. as for it being 'sadly wrong' please elaborate for the class as to 'why and how' this is wrong... :) afganistan has NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL...you can make a arguement about iraq..and to some extent iraq does have to do with oil....BUT afganistan(sp?) has nothing to do with oil...it has to do with terrorism and alqeada and bin laden...... intel in some cases suggest laden is in iran, syria, pakistan or afganistan....many people have made this suggestion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 explain this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 and this.. http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/irqindx.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 ive heard this so many times.... plaeaseee.....its a bunch of bullshit democrat margin jarbin...it carry's NO wait.... until i see actual evidence proving this or even coming close...its bs....conpiracey theories get annoying after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I am not speaking as dem/liberal/ whatever... I want you to explain to me... not just dismiss it as 'comspiracy theories'... you can't deny why we went into Afghanistan in the first place... and why did Bush Sr. pull out... why didn't h persue it like his son did???? answer me that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 why did Bush Sr pull out of iraq? is that what your asking? because Sr Bush...knew or thought atleast that we would do more damage going into a full invasion..he thought it would end up in a bloody long war that would be very bad....bush Jr though otherwise... the whole afganistan bs is a conspiracey theory like NASA making earth quakes to kill world leaders...i cant disprove that buts its pretty easy to say its BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 the whole afganistan bs is a conspiracey theory like NASA making earth quakes to kill world leaders...i cant disprove that buts its pretty easy to say its BS. haha!! I never heard that one before.. but at least you got the Sr. one right.. he knew better. DubbleYa on the other hand.. knew he had to go back in and try to be all greedy with is need for energy and look for oil. The US gov't (or the rest of the world for that matter) ...can't afford for these oil pipelines to fall under the control of the Taliban... its definitely an underlying factor. terrorism is just a front.. grant it.. its a threat.. but the real major factor is the oil. Don't forget what we're going thru now.. oil prices and stuff.. we are in the midst of a major energy crisis.. and what we should be doing is finding alternatives to solve this energy crisis. But this thread isnt about the war in Iraq.... its about our 'President' and how he never seems to take responisbility for his actions.. and how he isn't a great leader. He sucks!!! :laugh3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 hmmm nearly an hour went by and no response.. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilchick629 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 i think someone got scared :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 hmmm nearly an hour went by and no response.. :rolleyes: Don't you see Camille, Nick has to make sure he stays in his sheltered ignorant world. You try showing him the light and he gets too nervous. He couldn't possibly hold his own in a debate with you so he runs off. I'm sure he'll be back soon with some kind of bullshit propaganda piece that he hacked off the internet because he can't support his own views otherwise :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrywoman Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 he very well may be right... it "could" be conspiracy theories.. but these theories always stem from some sort of truth. If in fact it is a 'therory' indeed. But I want some hard facts to disprove these 'so called theories' he claims 'democrats' have made up. (which is a crock) because its not all about Dems and Reps.. we are a ONE Nation.. we should try to act like and realize that the future of our children and our childrens children are at stake here. so yeah.. proof. please.. thanks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 General Interests: golfing, fishing, stalking, killing, singing, eating, killing, some books, politics, current events, history, military history. real guns, basketball, Favourite books: "DELIVER US FROM EVIL: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism" by Sean Hannity "Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror" by Thomas McInerney, Paul Vallely Heroes: Sean Hannity, Jesus Christ, Ollie North, George Bush guess who's myspace page that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkahard Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php Sunday, September 11th, 2005 A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore To All My Fellow Americans Who Voted for George W. Bush: On this, the fourth anniversary of 9/11, I'm just curious, how does it feel? How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows? That's right. Horse shows. I really want to know -- and I ask you this in all sincerity and with all due respect -- how do you feel about the utter contempt Mr. Bush has shown for your safety? C'mon, give me just a moment of honesty. Don't start ranting on about how this disaster in New Orleans was the fault of one of the poorest cities in America. Put aside your hatred of Democrats and liberals and anyone with the last name of Clinton. Just look me in the eye and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or catastrophe. I want you to put aside your self-affixed label of Republican/conservative/born-again/capitalist/ditto-head/right-winger and just talk to me as an American, on the common ground we both call America. Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer? When you look at Michael Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, a man with little experience in national security, do you feel secure? When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a threat that was never there? Do you really believe that turning over important government services to private corporations has resulted in better services for the people? Why do you hate our federal government so much? You have voted for politicians for the past 25 years whose main goal has been to de-fund the federal government. Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD? With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home? Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake. That's not a joke. The day the hurricane hit and the levees broke, Mr. Bush, John McCain and their rich pals were stuffing themselves with cake. A full day after the levees broke (the same levees whose repair funding he had cut), Mr. Bush was playing a guitar some country singer gave him. All this while New Orleans sank under water. It would take ANOTHER day before the President would do a flyover in his jumbo jet, peeking out the window at the misery 2500 feet below him as he flew back to his second home in DC. It would then be TWO MORE DAYS before a trickle of federal aid and troops would arrive. This was no seven minutes in a sitting trance while children read "My Pet Goat" to him. This was FOUR DAYS of doing nothing other than saying "Brownie (FEMA director Michael Brown), you're doing a heck of a job!" My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of the world? And on this sacred day of remembrance, do you think we honor or shame those who died on 9/11/01? If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning, then did the 3,000 die in vain? Our vulnerability is not just about dealing with terrorists or natural disasters. We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever. Are we safe? Do you really feel safe? You can only move so far out and build so many gated communities before the fruit of what you've sown will be crashing through your walls and demanding retribution. Do you really want to wait until that happens? Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away? I know you know better. You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it. Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has to be fixed. What do you propose? I have an idea, and it isn't a horse show. Yours, Michael Moore I really can't stand this guy...and I'll probably be unpopular for it. I support George W., and I always have. Michael Moore just spreads propaganda! This letter, like his film Fahrenheit 9/11 (which I saw with an open mind on opening day last summer), makes many absurd charges, but provides ZERO facts to back them up. And if he thinks the federal government did such a bad job with Hurricane Katrina, instead of complaining about it, he should get his fat butt off his couch and get down there to volunteer. If he did that, then maybe, just maybe, I could earn a shred of respect for him. The last paragraph really gets on my nerves, too. Especially, "You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it." I can certainly say that if he ever comes out with another movie, I certainly will never pay a cent to go see it. He has no right to condemn Americans for choosing a certain person for president...it happened, he has to deal. And if it bothers him so much, why doesn't he just move to Canada for three years? Wouldn't bother me much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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