It would be unwise to do that' date=' but they can if they wish to do so. thats what i am saying, if the goverment wanted to it could, and do so legally.[/quote']

 

 

No they couldn't. The people of this nation wouldn't stand for it.. and it would be anarchy... the government can't do whatever the hell it wants to do.... because that would mean its not a democracy.... right?

No they couldn't. The people of this nation wouldn't stand for it.. and it would be anarchy... the government can't do whatever the hell it wants to do.... because that would mean its not a democracy.... right?

 

Anarchy yes, but the people of this nation would like it to happen....But the goverment can do what it wants if its legal, therefore it would be able to do it. And doing so wouldnt mean our country isnt a democrazy....

 

It couldnt do it with its own citizens, but legaly with illegal immagrants, it could do so and still be a democracy.

Anarchy yes' date=' but the people of this nation would like it to happen....But the goverment can do what it wants if its legal, therefore it would be able to do it. And doing so wouldnt mean our country isnt a democrazy....[/quote']

 

 

how so? and how is it legal?? where does it say in our laws of the land, that its legal?? You're talking shit again, little man..

Because its within our goverments right to decide who can come and be a citizen. the only shit talking is done by you.....

 

Our goverment has the job to control who becomes a citizen and who does not.

Because its within our goverments right to decide who can come and be a citizen. the only shit talking is done by you.....

 

Our goverment has the job to control who becomes a citizen and who does not.

 

 

useless..... its like talking in circles to you..

You deny the goverment has a legal ability to grant who it wants citizenship? you deny that it picks and chooses who becomes a US citizen and doesnt??? wow....just amazing.

guys, if you want a citizenship thread...make one, this thread is about Bush's plan to send troops to the border. I dont agree with it and neither do you Berrywoman, but neither of you are going to budge on your views so why keep pushing each other??? discuss the topics, dont fight wi th each other!

So if you're not for troops on the border. how do you think we should stop people from getting in illegally?

i have already stated, you cut off their reason for being here, they dont come anymore. 6,000 troops cant stop them, they will keep coming and coming, and a fence? please. Cut off their reason for being here....employment...

 

You throw an owner of a business who hires and illegal in jail for a month per illegal, and illegal alien hirings will stop INSTANTLY. Or fine them 50,000$ or even 100,000$ per illegal, it will also stop the hirings. And with no work for illegals, what will they do? they wont come here anymore illegally! They will either go through the naturlization process like all other legal aliens, or they will not come at all!!

 

PROBLEM SOLVED

 

no walls

no fences

no troops

 

NO HASSLE

PERIOD

acutally sounds like a damn good plan.

there you go nick :dozey::D

Our goverment wont do that though, atleast not for awhile or unless the people pressure it enough.

yea thats the sad thing too, i really think that both sides would like that plan. The far right gets the whole "deport em" kind of mentality a little bit in that plan, and the left is happy too.

 

I see now, in politics, it is all made up of compromises, and i REALLY think this is a good compromise.

 

as for the aliens already here, i say, if you have lived and worked here for at least 5 years, might as well give em citizenship. Anyone less than that, must either go through the naturalization process or be forced to leave, because if a business owner hires them, he is going to get in trouble, and HE doesnt want that! haha

yea thats the sad thing too, i really think that both sides would like that plan. The far right gets the whole "deport em" kind of mentality a little bit in that plan, and the left is happy too.

 

I see now, in politics, it is all made up of compromises, and i REALLY think this is a good compromise.

 

as for the aliens already here, i say, if you have lived and worked here for at least 5 years, might as well give em citizenship. Anyone less than that, must either go through the naturalization process or be forced to leave, because if a business owner hires them, he is going to get in trouble, and HE doesnt want that! haha

 

I like that idea. that would be a good plan. but camilles gonna have alot to say about it.

really? i would think that she would like it, we arent 'picking and choosing'. and we arent just sending EVERYONE back. but we arent just handing them citizenship. i think its BS that they think they can break all the rules, come in here, and DEMAND rights. (all the protests)

 

But i mean, i think it is fair. It gives them a chance to go through the proper process and if they dont want to, then they dont have a choice to stay. Thats how it is for EVERY other country, why should it be different for mexico??

really? i would think that she would like it, we arent 'picking and choosing'. and we arent just sending EVERYONE back. but we arent just handing them citizenship. i think its BS that they think they can break all the rules, come in here, and DEMAND rights. (all the protests)

 

But i mean, i think it is fair. It gives them a chance to go through the proper process and if they dont want to, then they dont have a choice to stay. Thats how it is for EVERY other country, why should it be different for mexico??

 

Exactly. well said.

 

I think carlos says it the best though. lol

 

http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=63199

I like that idea. that would be a good plan. but camilles gonna have alot to say about it.

 

 

bah, I'm done trying to 'discuss' things with you lil'bro.. lol Its like talking to an iron wall!! lol but we'll agree to disagree...

 

 

now, about the border- I'm not for a wall, or troops... I just think we need to get the border agents the border states were promised 4 years ago.... and thats that. Is immigration really this much a problem in our country when we have starving children in our country, drug epidemics, and other issues to deal with? Sometimes I think its just discrimination because suddenly Latinos aren't the minority anymore... seriously.

and thats not very cool in my opinion! you would think that in your own country....at least you can have people who were born and raised here.

 

 

but i do believe there are more important matters