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The Facts Finally Revealed [ Part 1 ]

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"Today, through my visit to you, I ask why don't we stretch out our hands with faith and sincerity so that together we might destroy this barrier? Why shouldn't our and your will meet with faith and sincerity so that together we might remove all suspicion of fear, betrayal and bad intentions?"

 

Are these your words or someone elses?

 

And why is it i get the feeling that you wont do that until Israel no longers exists.

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"As we really and truly seek peace we really and truly welcome you to live among us in peace and security."

 

Is that saying they are trying to live in peace with Israel?

"Today, through my visit to you, I ask why don't we stretch out our hands with faith and sincerity so that together we might destroy this barrier? Why shouldn't our and your will meet with faith and sincerity so that together we might remove all suspicion of fear, betrayal and bad intentions?"

 

Are these your words or someone elses?

 

And why is it i get the feeling that you wont do that until Israel no longers exists.

 

 

Yes we want the peace but after this done

 

Read it [ It's all we want ]

 

 

[ I have come to Jerusalem, the city of peace, which will always remain as a living embodiment of coexistence among believers of the three religions. It is inadmissible that anyone should conceive the special status of the city of Jerusalem within the framework of annexation or expansionism. It should be a free and open city for all believers.

Above all, this city should not be severed from those who have made it their abode for centuries. Instead of reviving the precedent of the Crusades, we should revive the spirit of Omar Ibn al-Khattab and Saladin, namely the spirit of tolerance and respect for right.

 

The holy shrines of Islam and Christianity are not only places of worship but a living testimony of our interrupted presence here. Politically, spiritually and intellectually, here let us make no mistake about the importance and reverence we Christians and Moslems attach to Jerusalem.

 

Let me tell you without the slightest hesitation that I have not come to you under this roof to make a request that your troops evacuate the occupied territories. Complete withdrawal from the Arab territories occupied after 1967 is a logical and undisputed fact. Nobody should plead for that. Any talk about permanent peace based on justice and any move to ensure our coexistence in peace and security in this part of the world would become meaningless while you occupy Arab territories by force of arms. ]

"As we really and truly seek peace we really and truly welcome you to live among us in peace and security."

 

Is that saying they are trying to live in peace with Israel?

 

 

Yes Nick,but after these things done

 

 

[ I have come to Jerusalem, the city of peace, which will always remain as a living embodiment of coexistence among believers of the three religions. It is inadmissible that anyone should conceive the special status of the city of Jerusalem within the framework of annexation or expansionism. It should be a free and open city for all believers.

Above all, this city should not be severed from those who have made it their abode for centuries. Instead of reviving the precedent of the Crusades, we should revive the spirit of Omar Ibn al-Khattab and Saladin, namely the spirit of tolerance and respect for right.

 

The holy shrines of Islam and Christianity are not only places of worship but a living testimony of our interrupted presence here. Politically, spiritually and intellectually, here let us make no mistake about the importance and reverence we Christians and Moslems attach to Jerusalem.

 

Let me tell you without the slightest hesitation that I have not come to you under this roof to make a request that your troops evacuate the occupied territories. Complete withdrawal from the Arab territories occupied after 1967 is a logical and undisputed fact. Nobody should plead for that. Any talk about permanent peace based on justice and any move to ensure our coexistence in peace and security in this part of the world would become meaningless while you occupy Arab territories by force of arms. ]

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Yes it's all what we want

Then wouldnt a good step on your half be an apology and acceptance that the holocaust happened and was wrong?

Yes Nick,but after these things done

 

 

[ I have come to Jerusalem, the city of peace, which will always remain as a living embodiment of coexistence among believers of the three religions. It is inadmissible that anyone should conceive the special status of the city of Jerusalem within the framework of annexation or expansionism. It should be a free and open city for all believers.

Above all, this city should not be severed from those who have made it their abode for centuries. Instead of reviving the precedent of the Crusades, we should revive the spirit of Omar Ibn al-Khattab and Saladin, namely the spirit of tolerance and respect for right.

 

The holy shrines of Islam and Christianity are not only places of worship but a living testimony of our interrupted presence here. Politically, spiritually and intellectually, here let us make no mistake about the importance and reverence we Christians and Moslems attach to Jerusalem.

 

Let me tell you without the slightest hesitation that I have not come to you under this roof to make a request that your troops evacuate the occupied territories. Complete withdrawal from the Arab territories occupied after 1967 is a logical and undisputed fact. Nobody should plead for that. Any talk about permanent peace based on justice and any move to ensure our coexistence in peace and security in this part of the world would become meaningless while you occupy Arab territories by force of arms. ]

 

I happen to think Israel should make Jerusalem free and for no one to controll it and give back all of the Gaza Strip and all of the West Bank.

 

BUT that will NOt solve anything...why? Because the terrorist dont want a palestine or the land back, they want Israel completely gone and destroyed,

 

So why would Israel do any of this if it wont help?

 

That may be what YOU want but sadly most muslim extremist in that region want Israel destroyed and the jews gone. Thus peace will not happen.

tell me how can we making apeace?

Well a first step is for you to stop spreading lies about Jews and acknowledge the holocaust did happen. When youve done that then we can talk further.

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I happen to think Israel should make Jerusalem free and for no one to controll it and give back all of the Gaza Strip and all of the West Bank.

 

BUT that will NOt solve anything...why? Because the terrorist dont want a palestine or the land back, they want Israel completely gone and destroyed,

 

So why would Israel do any of this if it wont help?

 

That may be what YOU want but sadly most muslim extremist in that region want Israel destroyed and the jews gone. Thus peace will not happen.

 

 

Just let Israel try,and we ready for the peace

You Maldini are not ready for peace thou. Your posts have been hostile to Jews. If you truly want peace then stop denying the holocaust happened and apologise.

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You Maldini are not ready for peace thou. Your posts have been hostile to Jews. If you truly want peace then stop denying the holocaust happened and apologise.

 

Look,I don't hate the Jews because they are a Jews,I just hate their acts.I hate Bin Laden is that mean I hate the Muslims

 

I know many facts about the Holocaust and I still can't belive how anyone can make this [ killing 6 millions ].The numbers theory denying that

well if you doubtt 6 million people died because it sounds a high number and difficult to grasp, it should be pointed out the 40-50 Millon people died in the second world war, over 20 million Russian. Do you deny this as well?

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well if you doubtt 6 million people died because it sounds a high number and difficult to grasp' date=' it should be pointed out the 40-50 Millon people died in the second world war, over 20 million Russian. Do you deny this as well?[/quote']

 

It's hard to grasp because it's high number for the Jews

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What about this

 

 

 

I have announced on more than one occasion that Israel has become a fait accompli, recognized by the world, and that the two superpowers have undertaken the responsibility for its security and the defense of its existence. As we really and truly seek peace we really and truly welcome you to live among us in peace and security.

There was a huge wall between us that you tried to build up over a quarter of a century but it was destroyed in 1973. It was the wall of an implacable and escalating psychological warfare.

It was a wall of the fear of the force that could sweep the entire Arab nation. It was a wall of propaganda that we were a nation reduced to immobility. Some of you have gone as far as to say that even for 50 years to come, the Arabs will not regain their strength. It was a wall that always threatened with a long arm that could reach and strike anywhere. It was a wall that warned us of extermination and annihilation if we tried to use our legitimate rights to liberate the occupied territories.

Together we have to admit that that wall fell and collapsed in 1973. Yet, there remains another wall. This wall constitutes a psychological barrier between us, a barrier of suspicion, a barrier of rejection; a barrier of fear, or deception, a barrier of hallucination without any action, deed or decision.

A barrier of distorted and eroded interpretation of every event and statement. It is this psychological barrier that I described in official statements as constituting 70 percent of the whole problem.

Thats just fancy words for saying we nealry won, we did our best, we proved a point and had we been better we would have won.

 

If Egypt had beaten Israel - Israel wouldnt exist today. The fact that it still does is because it beat you instead.

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Thats just fancy words for saying we nealry won, we did our best, we proved a point and had we been better we would have won.

 

If Egypt had beaten Israel - Israel wouldnt exist today. The fact that it still does is because it beat you instead.

 

No,saying this is too danger.Ie he wrong,they will stand up and shouting saying Lier

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Thats just fancy words for saying we nealry won, we did our best, we proved a point and had we been better we would have won.

 

If Egypt had beaten Israel - Israel wouldnt exist today. The fact that it still does is because it beat you instead.

 

 

It's mean also if Israel beaten Egypt,Egypt wouldn't exist today

It's mean also if Israel beaten Egypt' date='Egypt wouldn't exist today[/quote']

 

 

A country can be beat in war and still exist. Isreal defeated Egypt in war.

 

America defeated the British empire twice in war and yet britian is around today..we defeated Germany and yet Germany is around today..

 

Defeating a nation in war usualy doesnt mean the nation ceases to exist.

A country can be beat in war and still exist. Isreal defeated Egypt in war.

 

America defeated the British empire twice in war and yet britian is around today..we defeated Germany and yet Germany is around today..

 

Defeating a nation in war usualy doesnt mean the nation ceases to exist.

i will tell you something to end this depats

why was the war done?

and who's win land in the end ?

You didnt win the land thou, it was given back.

 

You started the war to detsroy Israel and got thrashed.

 

Why is it ok for Egypt to start wars but not Israel?

Egypt attacked Israel and got thier asses kicked and Israel won land and then gave it back! Your country got its ass kicked by Israel!

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Let's keep away war 1973 now.

 

I want your opinion about that:

 

[ I have come to Jerusalem, the city of peace, which will always remain as a living embodiment of coexistence among believers of the three religions. It is inadmissible that anyone should conceive the special status of the city of Jerusalem within the framework of annexation or expansionism. It should be a free and open city for all believers.

Above all, this city should not be severed from those who have made it their abode for centuries. Instead of reviving the precedent of the Crusades, we should revive the spirit of Omar Ibn al-Khattab and Saladin, namely the spirit of tolerance and respect for right.

 

The holy shrines of Islam and Christianity are not only places of worship but a living testimony of our interrupted presence here. Politically, spiritually and intellectually, here let us make no mistake about the importance and reverence we Christians and Moslems attach to Jerusalem.

 

Let me tell you without the slightest hesitation that I have not come to you under this roof to make a request that your troops evacuate the occupied territories. Complete withdrawal from the Arab territories occupied after 1967 is a logical and undisputed fact. Nobody should plead for that. Any talk about permanent peace based on justice and any move to ensure our coexistence in peace and security in this part of the world would become meaningless while you occupy Arab territories by force of arms. ]

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