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Hi, I don't think we've met before. I'm Mo.

 

You seem a little lost and confused...

 

Maybe if you chilled out a bit and avoided making new threads it would help a bit. Sorry about the name calling brigade, they seem to have been at that a lot lately. Don't encourage them and they'll go away.

 

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Hi, I don't think we've met before. I'm Mo.

 

You seem a little lost and confused...

 

Maybe if you chilled out a bit and avoided making new threads it would help a bit. Sorry about the name calling brigade, they seem to have been at that a lot lately. Don't encourage them and they'll go away.

 

:hat:

 

He actually called us a lot of names.

 

He even told me to "take one in the ass".

^ Lovely. Maybe if you all took a deep breath and started over again things would be better. Because you certainly seem to have started off on the wrong foot.

 

Personally, I have a policy about trying to be nice to newbs until they give me a good reason not to be. It usually works quite well. I still think of this place as the nice board, and I'd very much like it to stay that way if that's even possible in this internet age. I've found people tend to treat you the way you treat them, and that even goes for kindness if you keep your wits about you. Remember that the next time you have to deal with some blathering idiot that you're dreading in real life- it does work, it just takes a lot of patience.

Well, they pretty much gave him a good reason not to be in that post a while back Cadet, IMO :\

^ Lovely. Maybe if you all took a deep breath and started over again things would be better. Because you certainly seem to have started off on the wrong foot.

 

Personally, I have a policy about trying to be nice to newbs until they give me a good reason not to be. It usually works quite well. I still think of this place as the nice board, and I'd very much like it to stay that way if that's even possible in this internet age. I've found people tend to treat you the way you treat them, and that even goes for kindness if you keep your wits about you. Remember that the next time you have to deal with some blathering idiot that you're dreading in real life- it does work, it just takes a lot of patience.

 

I agree

Well, they pretty much gave him a good reason not to be in that post a while back Cadet, IMO :\

 

that was my post and my thread for a friend

then they kept coming to my posts.

He actually called us a lot of names.

 

He even told me to "take one in the ass".

 

I didn't say that

^You seem rather rude saying things like that.......:dozey:

So I was thinking about what random really is. Chaos is all about tipping points, like a bowling ball balancing on a nail, able to easily fall in any direction with the slightest change in position. But what really is at work that makes random things truly random?

Take shaking dice for example. Generally, shake enough dice, the odds being what they are, and you will have an equal chance of getting a 1 or a 6, but rarely in sequence, or the outcome may be many more 1's than 6's. and there is no clear pattern to the outcome - no simple equation can describe it, except equations telling you the odds or probability of winding up with each number.

But what really is going on in the process? In a physical, moment-by-moment sense?

The dice are placed into a cup - the initial face showing on each varies depending on how you pick them up, the angle and force of the drop into the cup, the bouncing and tipping when they first hit bottom, then the bounce, colliding with each other, then resting. All those motions, described by equations, and with each point of impact, another chaos point, and then then another motion, and finally resting. All before the shaking and roll begins.

I guess what I'm getting at is perhaps randomness is actually a series of movements of objects, their interactions within the universe, and the variable complex equations describing those motions, and after each tipping point is passed a new set of possible motions and interactions.

The more tipping points, the more variable the motions and their correlating equations, the greater the random, unpredictable outcomes one sees.

Similar to entropy, driving the universe perhaps? At least at the quantum level..

Just trying to get a handle on the basic driving forces out there..