January 24, 200422 yr :angry: :angry: Rockers Coldplay have been accused of approaching their music careers like "f***ing middle-class businessmen" who are only motivated by money. The Yellow hitmakers have fallen victim to the scathing tongue of cult The Fall singer Mark E. Smith who recounts the time an American taxi driver overheard the band discussing business in the back of his cab - leading him to believe they were stockbrokers. And charismatic Smith insists if singer Chris Martin and his bandmates were his children, he'd dress them in suits and send them off to get a "proper job", instead of releasing music to earn their millions. He tells Britain's Jack magazine, "I got this taxi in America, and I always say I'm a building engineer if anybody asks, though I told this particular driver I was a sound engineer. "And he said, 'How's business?' and I said, 'It's alright apart from musicians.' And he goes, 'It's funny you should say that because I picked up three guys the other day, three British guys like you, and they were going on about 25 per cent this and 25 per cent that and five per cent this and they looked pretty scruffy.' "So he got them to where they were going and said, 'Have a good day, hope you have a good stockbroker meeting,' and they go, 'What's that? We're Coldplay!' And he goes to me, 'Have you heard of Coldplay?' I said, 'Yeah, they're big in Britain.' And he said, 'I thought they were f***ing three f***ing stockbrokers.' And I said, 'You're damn right.' "'Cos that's what they are, f***ing middle-class businessmen. 'Cos their moms and dads are all bank managers, money is all they're bothered about. If they were my children I'd say, 'Get a f***ing proper job. Do something useful. Be a scientist.'"
January 24, 200422 yr I'm a scientist :cool: Well, not really. Wow, that article was harsh. I would think that all people who get up there in the music business think about money, though. I wouldn't blame them. :confused:
January 24, 200422 yr I don't believe it for a sec... and if it is, as long as they're not robbing the money what's wrong with that? just because they're musicians they shouldn't be bother with the finantial side of they're bussiness?? at least they're not realeasing action figurees gor God's sake!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: people are so jealous :rolleyes:
January 24, 200422 yr Author It says three of them though, Chris was usually the missing one because he was always with Gwyneth. The thing is Chris is middle class one, Will, Guy and Jonny aren't (well, in comparison) - so it's all bullsh*t :angry: :angry: So what if they were talking money, doesn't mean they don't care about the music!
January 24, 200422 yr That was a bit harsh. :/ That blok has obviously forgotten that coldplay are musicians because they are talented and deserve to be where they are today. Then again who doesn't think about money? :confused:
January 24, 200422 yr Can we really trust this taxi driver anyways? :smug: Anyways, if they're talented, then I guess they deserve the money anyways. If you're a stockbroker, you're talented. If you're a good musician, you're still talented.
January 24, 200422 yr But what if it is true? I don't think any of us have any way of knowing one way or another ... ... and in the end it doesn't really matter. I honestly could care less how much Coldplay want money. Doesn't matter to me. If they have used it as motivation for their music, targeting a certain audience, I'm sure people will get tired of them as their crowd will eventually move away from their music. But we don't know if or when that will happen.
January 24, 200422 yr Well said! :) But thats what the music industry is, a buisness. I think that bloke should have critised the record companies no coldplay as they are the people who get the most money. :idea2:
January 24, 200422 yr Author Yeah, and they do work damned hard too. 18 months of touring must be draining :stunned: Talent is often rewarded with large sums of money, it's just the way it is. I mean look how much footballers get. David Beckham gets paid a disgusting amount of money, something like £10,000 a week :stunned:
January 24, 200422 yr Exactly, footballers get lods of money. Well I think coldplay deserve therewards they recieve.
January 24, 200422 yr I think the underlying point here might be that we probably shouldn't devote much time to thinking about Benham's or Martin's or any celebrity's finanaces because, for the most part: 1) That's not the reason they are celebrities. 2) Most celebrities don't promote or publicize their wealth. 3) It doesn't affect out intereaction with that celebrity. This fixation with other people's monies really fascinated me. Why should I care as long as I have enough money on which to survive? I guess people generally want to hear about these types of things or else the media would spend less time covering them, but I don't get it.
January 24, 200422 yr That is disgusting. :stunned: (I must find a way to take over the world and make that much money :sneaky: )
January 24, 200422 yr Author I think the underlying point here might be that we probably shouldn't devote much time to thinking about Benham's or Martin's or any celebrity's finanaces because, for the most part: 1) That's not the reason they are celebrities. 2) Most celebrities don't promote or publicize their wealth. 3) It doesn't affect out intereaction with that celebrity. This fixation with other people's monies really fascinated me. Why should I care as long as I have enough money on which to survive? I guess people generally want to hear about these types of things or else the media would spend less time covering them, but I don't get it. I agree. The reason we are talking about it is because of the article though. I personally don't care what Coldplay get finacially, I don't believe they got in to this buisness for money, but for love of music. I do understand them discussing money though, everyone has to make a living.
January 24, 200422 yr Author That is disgusting. :stunned: (I must find a way to take over the world and make that much money :sneaky: ) :sneaky: Can I help?
January 24, 200422 yr I think the underlying point here might be that we probably shouldn't devote much time to thinking about Benham's or Martin's or any celebrity's finanaces because, for the most part: 1) That's not the reason they are celebrities. 2) Most celebrities don't promote or publicize their wealth. 3) It doesn't affect out intereaction with that celebrity. This fixation with other people's monies really fascinated me. Why should I care as long as I have enough money on which to survive? I guess people generally want to hear about these types of things or else the media would spend less time covering them, but I don't get it. I agree. The reason we are talking about it is because of the article though. I personally don't care what Coldplay get finacially, I don't believe they got in to this buisness for money, but for love of music. I do understand them discussing money though, everyone has to make a living. But if they did get in it just for money, would that affect your love for them? Imagine ... Chris goes an interview where he says "We wanted to be the Pixies, but the Pixies very sold, so we decided to mix in more contemporary U2 and we got Yellow and Trouble and we're better for it." Not arrogant about it, just matter of fact. How would that affect you?
January 24, 200422 yr does it really matter how much they care about money? jeez what a stupid article even if it is true. wow they were discussing money, big whoop. Rockers Coldplay have been accused of approaching their music careers like "f***ing middle-class businessmen" who are only motivated by money. only motivated by money? what the hell? they were discussing what they earned, is that a crime? they work they earn money like everyone does. what a stupid article i will say yet again. :rolleyes:
January 24, 200422 yr Author But if they did get in it just for money, would that affect your love for them? Imagine ... Chris goes an interview where he says "We wanted to be the Pixies, but the Pixies very sold, so we decided to mix in more contemporary U2 and we got Yellow and Trouble and we're better for it." Not arrogant about it, just matter of fact. How would that affect you? Not at all, if I like the music and they've put passion into it then I would still buy it, go to their concerts, after all it is their job. All I meant was (in my opinion) this Mark E. Smith guy has got it wrong because when I see Chris talk about making music I see passion and adoration for what he does. He has a 1st class university degree, if he wanted a job just to makes tonnes of money, he could get one.
January 24, 200422 yr That's cool. I wouldn't invest too much on what a celebrity says in interviews, though. Well, I actually could see why somebody would, but ... ... his first class university degree might tell him that humility in interviews sells more records.
January 24, 200422 yr Author Maybe, do you agree with the article? Do you think they're just in it for the money and feign humility?
January 24, 200422 yr That is disgusting. :stunned: (I must find a way to take over the world and make that much money :sneaky: ) :sneaky: Can I help? Of course. :D
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