i want to hear all of your opinions of the inevitable war with iraq? is it really inevitable? also the pros and cons of over throwing saddam.

i think that george bush is an american twat hu wants oil and 'if he gets his way we will all die'!! c.m at the brits but i fink saddam can not walk away.

ur views please

btw i kind of had a thread like this that wasnt really showing my opinion. i wanted to see other ppls opinions

 

 

how can you say that :? it could be inevitable, but then it could make everything better...or worse.

 

i dont see how you all can say stuff like that about bush. when i read what others say it makes me think you dont know much about him and all you know is what you hear people around you say. how would you know he's really thinking about war.

bring it on i love this :D

I think the problem is that we, the public, are given only so much information- information which the media gives to us. We don't know the entire situation, so i think that we're all creating an opinion based on incomplete facts. The media controls what we see and what we become aware of, so I think that there's definitely some shit that we don't know...and until we know that info, we'll never be able to fully comprehend the situation...

 

I don't know if that made any sense....sorry..if it didn't.. :D

that's exactly what i was going to say next....all what everyone knows about bush and how he thinks is what the media says.

plus saddam has had 12 years...and he does pose a threat...and they're not going to bomb random civilians...how is that humane?

was the holocaust humane? no but it still happened. just shows you people are capable of being inhumane non humame....sorry i'm not too possitive on my words :D

A recent survey in London showed that 45% of the public believe that Sadam is a threat to world peace. Another 45% also believed that Bush is a threat to world peace. He's a war monger.

 

I think that just about sums up my whole feeling about this issue. :D

A recent survey in London showed that 45% of the public believe that Sadam is a threat to world peace. Another 45% also believed that Bush is a threat to world peace. He's a war monger.

 

I think that just about sums up my whole feeling about this issue. :D

 

That's 90% though, what's the other 10%? Unsure? :-o

haha that's funny how your statistic is kind of wrong and unfinished.

 

and you know that's only london your talking about. there's a whole world out there.

i think claiming that a war in iraq is about oil is a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

 

that said, i do believe it's inevitable, because no matter what happens, bush seems to be pushing for war. so as far as world peace is concerned i think bush is more of a threat than saddam, because he's the one that's going to start the war, but obviously saddam is more of a threat to his own people and shouldn't have been left in power so long.

 

to sum things up i don't really know where i stand. i just think going to war is not a decision to be taken lightly. unfortunately that decision seems to have been made months ago whether the american public agrees or not.

shoe lad u are my rock!! we all have an opinion of this situation and my opinion is that if george bush wants to keep world peace he is going the wrong way about it. i believe that he has not produced a moral case for war and another question is what the hell hapened to finding bin laden.

every one in england that i have spoken to is with me on this one WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER i am a pasofist or however u spell it

neway long live coldplay

pacifist :D

my opinion mr saddam is a bastard i know but im not realy looking forward to a war! i think bush is obsessed with this war :x but oh well nothing we can do to stop him :x ughhh nevermind this realy makes me pissed of

that's why i love it...haha

haha that's funny how your statistic is kind of wrong and unfinished.

 

and you know that's only london your talking about. there's a whole world out there.

It ain't my statistic love. Blame Sky News. :D

 

There's a whole world out there? No.... no... NOOOOOOOOOO! :o :o

lol well the news was wrong....you should call them up and tell them about it. :D

lol well the news was wrong....you should call them up and tell them about it. :D

A letter of complaint on its way.... :P

 

Nah, I think I worded it wrongly. 45% of the public, and then 45% of the public, so some of those 45% might believe that both are a threat... then... oh god. :-o :-o :-o

that's why i love it...haha

 

lol seeing me pissed off? :shock:

:shrug: Personal opinion - don't want war, don't want to be blown up, don't want Saddam/Al Quaeda (sp?) to keep on doing what they are doing, don't want Bush/Blair to get what they want either - but after saying all of that I think it is inevitable and that there will be a war that no-one really wants! :sad:

well yeah there will be one anyways maybe not tomorrow but it will be soon the news is shocking me more and more :( but hey lets see it like this if we get blown up we all go together :shrug:

but hey lets see it like this if we get blown up we all go together :shrug:

 

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yeah sorry i cant believe ive said that either :(

The following Statement says alot... Try looking at the FACTS instead of the EMOTIONAL VIEWS!

 

Protestors Don’t Get It

By Al Ruechel | 02-21-03

Let’s get it straight. I fully support the right of protestors to take their cause to the streets of America. More than 30 years ago, I was a longhaired freak who marched the streets on Moratorium Day with thousands of other Iowa State University students. We were protesting the Vietnam War.

But in all honesty, I wasn’t marching because I understood the travesty of what was happening in Southeast Asia. I was marching because it was the cool thing to do. I was marching because a friend of mine dared me to take to the streets. I was marching because I was rebelling against something, maybe my parents, maybe the government. I had no idea why I was there because I didn’t bother digging for the facts. I was being swept along by emotion. If it feels good, do it! Plus there was this freaky looking chick who… well anyway, you get my meaning.

Times have changed, but looking at all the video of protestors around the world I saw carbon copies of me. Yes, there are those who truly are dedicated to the process of peace and are willing to lay down their lives for it. These are the moms and dads who’ve lost their sons in the prime of their lives to war.

Still, I’d venture that most of those carrying signs haven’t read any of the 17 United Nations resolutions concerning Iraq. They haven’t read any of the briefing papers prepared by the United Nations detailing the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein. These aren’t fairy tales created by rightwing conservative hawks. These atrocities have been documented by the United Nations. Protestors have forgotten the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi soldiers killed during Saddam’s failed war with Iran in 1980, trying to gain access to another seaport. They’ve forgotten the thousands of Kurds Saddam gassed in the North. They ignore the dissidents who were beheaded and the prisoners who were gassed when Saddam tested his latest chemical arsenal. They ignore the money Saddam has used to build over 30 palaces while over one million Iraqi children have died of starvation and disease. The list goes on and on and on.

Actually, what bothers me most about these protestors is how ill informed they are. I swear you’d think they had been brained washed by Saddam himself. They seem to be able to block out his errors and his mistakes and magnify every blemish in the Bush administration. That’s right. This isn’t about war. Many of these people are stinking poor losers who can’t find closure for the 2000 election.

There was a guy I saw in a T-shirt with a picture of George Bush and the words “International Terrorist” underneath the photo. Is this supposed to be a joke? Is this supposed to be political harpooning? Can you document one single event in the life of our President where he had ordered someone to death? You really believe he lies awake at night licking his chops hoping we go to war? Do you really believe that living under a dictator is superior to living in a society that allows you choice? Take a tape recorder with you to the next protest and play it back when you get home. If you can support with documentation and logic the slogans you toss around like confetti at a drunken brawl then fine… chant away.

But I challenge you to answer these questions. Who is more moral? The man who carries the olive branch when he sees his brother or sister being tortured or raped or murdered; or the man who carries a sword and rights the wrong to defend the helpless even if he must spill his own blood in the process? What should our response be when terrorists control the means to destroy your children? Do you want to wait for something to happen to your wife, your husband, and your child?

Singing songs and carrying signs and praying for peace is wonderful. But history has shown us over and over again it only works as long as everyone is committed to that same peace. It only works when all of us believe in and respect the rights of each other to live in peace. It only works when people choose to be honest and consider the well being of others equal to or superior to their own right to be happy.

The mistake protestors always make over and over again is ascribing goodness and mercy to all mankind. They believe all religions are based on the notion of live and let live. They can’t understand that in life there are truly evil people who only care about themselves. If you are willing to trust your future and the future of all mankind to evil people, dictators who live alone for themselves and their pleasure, than keep on marching, all the way to Baghdad, all the way to North Korea, all the way to the utopia you think exists somewhere over the rainbow.

 

Al Ruechel, Copyright 2003, All Rights Reserved

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