Knotty

WHATTTTTTTTTTT? This guy is a RANDOM guy with 6 posts. I - I - could just as easily have said "ZOMG IVE HEARD THE NEW TRACKS AND THEYRE AWESOMEEEEEE I GOT THEM OFF <OTHER RANDOM GUY>". What on Earth makes you say what you just said?!?!

It's quite funny that the consensus at the moment seems to be that the latter half of the album is worse than the former.

AGAIN. HELLO, NEW MEMBER, TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEIR POSTS ARE RIDICULOUS. "There is nothing we can do about it.": perhaps not, but definitely not if you take that attitude. "Anyway, the all seating policy obviously hasn't deterred people.": *fails to see the significance of this point*

If I had known before the ticket page came up that they would be all-seating, I would have complained then, but I hardly had time to debate the issue when the knowledge the tickets would be sold out within the next 15 minutes was pressing on me. The fact that I bought my ticket for seating only resulted from the time pressure. Surely people have the right to complain at some point about it: here, it was impossible to complain at the time because it was so important to get the tickets quickly.

The 'policy' can vanish. The seats can't.

Hello May 2008. Welcome to the boards. Paying customers have a right to complain if they don't think something's being done right. It's like saying you're fed up of people complaining about the cutlery being dirty in a restaurant that people are queuing to enter. If you don't understand why people are aggrieved then you don't really, imho, understand the concept of a gig. Seats restrict the ability to jump about and move freely even if you ARE stood up. So be quiet :) (Directed at Burgandy...)

I'm grateful. That doesn't mean you have to be all-loving and happy about the negatives. http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/standing-space-on-coldplay-2008-uk-tour.html

Stay at the top please like!

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19667.html

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19667.html

Firstly, I'm aware this should and could be elsewhere (i.e. the live section) but it will get much more airplay here and that's the effect I'd like to achieve. Please, mods, if you deem it totally irrelevant feel free to move it, but otherwise can it please stay here? Anyway, this is a gopetition I've created to try to get as many signatures as possible in favour of introducing some standing space on Coldplay's UK tour in December. Please, if you are in support of the idea, sign the petition at: http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19667.html

With all due respect, including the phrase "utter bullshit" in a 'petition' that starts "We, the undersigned" is a little bit daft! I'll start an e-petition up, I think.

:D I can just picture standing there and somebody saying something like, "Oh they're just playing some of their less good songs for the hardcore fans," and me taking a swing at them :(

Yep. I've got no problem in people's beliefs. I've never been touched with the faith some people claim to know. I hate two things, though: people quoting the Bible at me as though it saying something makes it true, and people hoping that I one day get 'saved' or 'know the truth'. Adieu aussi.

Don't... ever... quote the Bible at me, unless you want me to upset you by calling it fiction.

All I'll say is, the iTunes promo has been playing in my uni's JCRs recently, and every time it comes on, somebody says: - "Is that COLDPLAY?!" - "That's AWESOME!"

I actually never realised that. As a songwriter myself though I can tell anyone who's not tried it for prolonged periods that there are some things you try to slip into every verse and chorus. With me, those things are 'sparks', 'retina burns', beaches and the word 'solace'. I find them so often when I look back at things I've written that it worries me :D

The majority of those articles are purely and simply putting completely abstract twists on lyrics that allow that approach. Martin's wordplay has always been vague enough to permit a large degree of flexibility of interpretation, and that's how he can relate to so many people. To suggest that Coldplay are religious is nonsensical. As the article states, and as I remember reading elsewhere, Martin has expressed his confusion that people can still believe and his disillusionment with the faith that he was brought up around. I myself, if you haven't guessed yet, am an agnostic with an almost decisive swing towards atheism: it will never be possible to know, but the laws of logic practically prohibit god's existence and there is no reasonable basis on which to believe in a higher power. I get a little bit offended when people suggest that Viva La Vida, for example, is a message to the general population not to sin else heaven won't await. I'd just like a little bit of restraint. When JPB said there was more freedom of religion in the world nowadays, I'm fairly certain he didn't mean, "people can interpret the Bible and Jesus Christ's words more freely", but was rather talking about the other religious standpoints in the world, many of which outnumber Christianity by a great factor. To answer the question though, yes, I can see how some of the words in Coldplay songs can take a very spiritual meaning if you are that way inclined. On the other hand, I as a songwriter myself tend to believe that religious connotations and imagery are more a good, populist way of communicating ideas, and religious symbolism is also a very majestic area. Some of Coldplay's music mentions religion but is in no way religious: GPASUYF, for example, mentions god specifically but is, to most reasonable people, not a hymn, but merely a way of saying that some people are blessed with certain qualities. It's all about flexibility and interpretation. When it comes down to it, platonic love, romantic love and spiritual love have very few details to pick between them, and South Park has proven that anything can take religious meaning by whacking the words God and Jesus in there somewhere. It's just all about how you choose to perceive the love Martin portrays. I myself prefer to think that it's a girl. Or a guy, as I'm that way inclined. And so you get the picture. Context always affects what you take from music, and always will.

Yep! 296.333 hours 'till HMV opens and Viva La Vida is sitting there, on the shelf, ready to be bought and listened to. The 15 minutes it takes me to get back to my halls is going to be the worst 15 minutes of my LIFE! lol

297 hours here like. Not that I'm counting.

The only songs I would play off X&Y would be... I actually can't think of anything I'd play. Maybe Low or A Message. Possibly Talk. For me, ignoring the idea of ordering them: From Parachutes, Shiver Yellow Trouble Parachutes From AROBTTH, Politik The Scientist Amsterdam Clocks In My Place From X&Y, Talk From Viva, LIT 42 Violet Hill Yes Viva La Vida DAAHF

How do we know the other lyrics that are 'missing' are the opening lyrics? Locust can't be trusted. OK - his Violet Hill review struck some chords, but that didn't mean he'd heard the album, especially as VH was the first single. Of all the people on here that we've forgotten about after finding out they were wrong, there was bound to be someone who got reasonably close and people swarmed (like locusts) around them. I just can't take seriously people who claim to have heard the entire album but have no concrete evidence in the form of LYRICS. NONE of these people post any of the hooks, any of the stand-out lines of the vocals. It's all very well writing that it's an epic which builds and drops; some people are always going to end up agreeing with you, and others won't. Lyrics are the only definitive proof that someone's heard a song because they're the bit nobody can get lucky on. Q and Debs Wild will not have got this wrong; the song is DAAHF and the bits of lyrics we haven't heard were editted out. I certainly WOULD describe the piano at the beginning as melancholy and definitely 'spangling guitars' is one way of describing the direction of the instrumental. Just because we haven't heard the choir doesn't mean it's not been cut out.

Of all the songs I'd love them to play, Proof and Amsterdam are just, bang on.

The two most reliable sources we have, Debs and Q, suggest that the song is DAAHF. The fact that the song doesn't contain the website artwork's lyrics is irrelevant. It was evidently editted for Grey's Anatomy anyway. Q say that the lyrics "just be patient and don't worry" are in DAAHF: they're not very likely to be wrong, really, are they?

Hear, hear on this one. I saw that they were all-seated for Sheffield, I was like, WTF, let's try Manchester then - they were all-seated there too, and then I looked down the list and saw it was all-seating EVERYWHERE. Why on EARTH would you ever want to sit down at a gig, really? I'll be on my feet whatever happens. Does anybody know who would be in charge of this fucking decision? It's absolutely ludicrous. And if I get sat next to some 50-year-olds who say "what's this?" when Shiver or GPASUYF come on I will RAGE.