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^exactly. There is no good or bad music. Only music that speaks to you and music that doesn't.

Not completely subjective, but i'd say mostly subjective. There's no way (that I know of) to accurately quantify how universally good a song is or isn't. That being said, there are large trends and universal tastes in music that apply to a majority of us. Example, the pleasantness of 4/4 time or how we see the same 4 chords in a lot of hit songs because they sound good to us. The wonderful thing about music is that it IS subjective and that forums like this exist to debate how good song A is versus song B. But of course there is no true answer, so the debate continues until someone can upload a song onto a computer and have it spit out a score. I typed out a longish rant about this that I ended up deleting but the bottom line is, if the song sounds good to you, then you've got yourself a good song.

No, I agree with you. I like the song, and I think it would be radio friendly.

google suggests its a satire news site.

Two weeks ago, Innocence Project made an important announcement on Twitter, stating that Chris Martin is chosen to be the newest Innocence Ambassadors. Today, we had a pleasure to speak to the communication manager of Innocence Project, Andrew Z Giacalone, about Chris Martin’s participation and his favorite part about Coldplay. We are glad to hear that Chris loves to support the community and one of them is Innocence Project. What was the first reaction when Chris finally joined this project? We were elated to hear that Chris and Coldplay had decided to step forward and join the innocence movement as Innocence Ambassadors. The Innocence Project already has an impressive roster of world-renowned artists devoted to advocating against wrongful conviction and for criminal justice reform here in the US. But to have the star-power of such global rock icons on our side is a great advantage, particularly when trying to communicate the importance of reforming our criminal justice system to a young, socially aware audience and ensuring that they become active in lobbying for change. You mentioned about, “At each venue throughout the tour the Innocence Project will have people on hand to educate concertgoers about the organization’s work and the problem of wrongful convictions” in the article, which we also agree. What kind of specific message will you give us as Coldplay fans? We will be asking all fans to join Chris and Coldplay and to #StandUp4INNOCENCE alongside us on social media, whether it be on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram. In addition, we hope to help educate people about the issues that cause wrongful conviction, from the use of unvalidated forensic sciences to the misconduct of law enforcement and government officials. We hope to build grassroots support to help us lobby lawmakers around the country to support reforms to prevent wrongful convictions. Fans can receive updates from the Innocence Project about how they can help and also join us onFacebook, Twitter or Instagram. What is it like working with Chris along the way? What do you like about his personality? Chris has been extremely gracious and helpful. We announced our collaboration in the weekend leading up to Coldplay’s Super Bowl performance so you can imagine how busy they both were. Nonetheless, Chris took the time and showed his support for the Innocence Project through a selfie that he then pushed out on social media for all too see. That’s the kind of vocal support we look for in an Innocence Ambassador. What are your expectations that you hope from Coldplay fans when reacting about this matter? I hope Coldplay fans will embrace our efforts to draw greater attention to the issue of wrongful conviction. At the same time, I urge your readers to visit our websitewww.innocenceproject.org and follow us on Twitter and Facebook so they too can learn more about how we use DNA evidence to free the wrongfully convicted. Will you collaborate with other artists to support the project? What are your hopes for Innocence Project in the long term? We already collaborate with numerous actors, actresses and performers. Ryan Phillippe and Tony Goldwyn are long-time supporters as are Whoopi Goldberg and Susan Sarandon. With their help, we want #StandUp4INNOCENCE to become a national and global movement. And that’s precisely how Coldplay and Coldplay fans can help us too. Apart from this awareness, we are interested in knowing about your Coldplay knowledge. What is your favorite song by Coldplay and why? Here at the Innocence Project, I think we can safely say that Viva la Vida is our favorite Coldplay song because, at its title suggests, it’s a celebration of life. Every day we confront cases in which innocent men and women have been imprisoned due to the imperfections of our criminal justice system. On average, our DNA exonerees have spent 14 years of their lives in prison for crimes they didn’t commit. Lewis Fogle, one of our most recent exonerees, spent 34 years in prison. If you take a moment to think about that, then you realize that our work is also a celebration of life, of innocence, and a stand for justice. How do you describe about Chris in 3 words? Dynamic, impactful, conscientious. What are the future plans for the collaboration with Coldplay? For now, we’re focusing on our plans for the upcoming US tour. Then we’ll discuss future collaborations. As Coldplaying is the biggest Coldplay fansite in the world, do you have something to say for us? I really encourage all Coldplay fans to follow in Chris’ and Coldplay’s shoes and join us in our effort to #StandUp4INNOCENCE. Anyone can help just by following us on Twitter,Facebook and Instagram, visiting our website and learning more about what they can do to stop wrongful convictions. Wrongful convictions can happen to anyone; no one is exempt or safe. So it’s imperative that we build awareness and put pressure on our politicians to adopt the legislative measures necessary for making our criminal justice system fairer and less prone to the glaring miscarriages we have seen and continue to see to this day. Visit www.innocenceproject.org to learn more and grab the t-shirts now to support the project. http://www.coldplaying.com/coldplaying-interview-with-innocence-project/

Great points. And I can respect that you and I will differ on those things you touched on, particularly lyrical deepness and Chris's voice. But OP didn't say a word remotely related to your post. It kinda took oldplayers to come and help translate what he was trying to say lol.

The message wasn't aimed just at OP but to everyone on the board. It's a result of the severe lack of respect especially between the old and new crowd (both sides) and the old vs band battle. The survey you all had a chance to fill out tells us that. I'm not as "white as snow" as to act like I couldn't learn from my own post, but y'all can act like you are all you want.

Let's just say if you aren't a fan after this episode and rest of the season, you won't ever be.... 30 minute warning.

BUMPPPP Read them spoilers. Don't miss this one....

^ for me it was these 2 images

only gripe is the YOLA project sounds too close to the YOLO project

Interview: Gustavo Dudamel (SB50 Conductor) FEBRUARY 14, 2016 Last week, renowned Venezuelan conductor Gustavo Dudamel joined Coldplay at the Super Bowl to conduct the Youth Orchestra LA during the Halftime Show. We gave him a shout to find out what he made of it… Hi Gustavo, how are you? I’m great, just spending time in LA with my son recovering from an amazing experience. You must be pretty happy with the Super Bowl 50 performance? Happy yes, but pride in the YOLA kids is the major feeling. They were so professional and composed and didn’t miss a beat — literally and figuratively. How did you and YOLA come to be involved in Coldplay’s Halftime Show? Chris Martin and I had become friends and one of the things that binds us is that we both believe music can be a vehicle for the greater good. YOLA does that, El Sistema in Venezuela does that and both of us are committed to changing the world — to making it better. When he was given the opportunity to create the Super Bowl halftime show he reached out and the rest is history! Could you tell us more about the YOLA project and your involvement with it? YOLA is modelled after El Sistema in my native Venezuela. It takes kids from underserved neighbourhoods and provides them free instruments, rigorous musical training and academic support to help them become better leaders, learn collaboration and to have brighter futures. It was started concurrently with my tenure at The LA Philharmonic and is one of my proudest achievements. So once you’d agreed to be part of Coldplay’s show, what did the process involve for you and YOLA? It operated on many levels. First, there were orchestrations written for us; then intense rehearsals; and finally a grand performance. How did you find it working with [Coldplay string arranger] Davide Rossi? Davide is amazing. He captured the beauty of Coldplay’s music and added depth and beauty with the orchestrations he added. It was an honour and a delight. And since the strings were such an important part of what we played he was able to offer important mentoring and lessons for the YOLA kids. Did you enjoy the experience of working with Coldplay in rehearsals? I loved it, of course, but the kids loved it even more. Chris, in particular, was very generous with his time and his wisdom and the children were made to feel like rock stars. How much pressure did you feel ahead of the Super Bowl performance? Were you nervous? I was nervous — this was a totally new experience for me. I left a little wiser, with a few more grey hairs and overwhelmed with gratitude. How did it feel conducting an orchestra in front of such an enormous worldwide audience? I tried to focus on the moment because imagining more than 100 million people watching is almost incomprehensible. But afterwards, when I saw the amazing response on social media and in the press I realised how expansive it really was. It was such an important moment and I came to this realisation that, “Oh my God—our music is is truly relevant.” What did you think of the Halftime Show? Were you able to enjoy it as you conducted? Honestly I was so in the moment and I had so much to do that my focus was on my job. But after, when I saw the show replayed on television, I was blown away by the beauty, originality and expression of love that it expressed an was touched and honoured to be even a small part of it. And how did you and the YOLA kids feel afterwards? We felt like we had won the Super Bowl! Did you celebrate on Sunday night? I had a quiet dinner with my amazing team and then went to thank Chris and Coldplay at their after party. What’s coming next for yourself and YOLA? I have a very full international schedule ahead of me and the kids will continue to play and prepare for their future performances. Plus they have to do well in their studies. And practice, practice, practice. We have a special show this autumn we’re working on as part of a tour — the work never ends. Finally, what’s your favourite Coldplay song? Of course it’s Viva La Vida. It comes from a stunning Frida Kahlo painting and celebrates life in spite of the many obstacles thrown at you along the way. Plus its title is in Spanish. And musically it’s deep, melodic and really showcases the poignant beauty of the strings. How could I not love the song and the magnificent message? —- Click for more information on Gustavo and YOLA. Source [MEDIA=twitter]698986388943933441[/MEDIA] Mobile Link: https://twitter.com/coldplay/status/698986388943933441 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156590600305253 Mobile Link: https://www.facebook.com/coldplay/posts/10156590600305253

To mimic the other side for a second, the typical response I get when I say this is that it`s not so much that the new stuff has to be depressing to be good in their eyes. It`s that the new stuff lacks depth or soul. Its all related to the argument that they`ve `turned pop`. Back to me now, I don`t think they`ve sold their soul, and I don`t know why pop is a bad word. I`ll take good pop over bad rock any day. But again, personal tastes....But like Gai said, personal preferences and conflicting tastes are one thing. But attacking the person is just plain childish.

arg, he`s in toronto in july. But I have a wedding to attend (where i`m a groomsman) and a birthday party and my own birthday that weekend. I`ll be skipping him 3 times now....

Let me try to explain again: most bands want to become big. To be 'big' is to be successful and tour the world as you say. With the success comes the $$$. I'm saying no one should blame Coldplay for having money making opportunities come their way and I don't think anyone should blame Coldplay for accepting those opportunities. If someone else can turn down hundreds of thousands of dollars, then they're a bigger person than I. I'm not gonna pretend I can turn down a million dollars because I think its this or that. Again, it just goes back to the general view that Coldplay has been in the decline. And again, its a matter of personal taste. I'm willing to concede their new material is not as great as the old. But it isn't so bad that I feel the need to slander and send ill-wishes to the band in the ways I see in this thread and others.

Half the OP was personal history and the other half was somewhat of an argument against Coldplay. If we're acting like the amount of time you've been a fan legitimizes your points (hint: it doesn't), then let me say ive been here for over 10 years. So let me try and get through to you as an equal. Sellouts: My own view is that when you become such a large, international band like Coldplay, you're gonna have opportunities come to you to make money. I don't see the problem with this. There are millions of indie bands (like Coldplay once was) who would LOVE to be them right now. For better or for worse, money is a large part of how the world runs; its just reality. I can't believe I have to spell this out, but people need money to survive, and generally when anyone is offered a chance for some, they take that chance. I don't fault Coldplay for this because 99% of us would do the same if given the same chance. What 99% of us would NOT do is donate a large portion of this money (they gained through being 'sellouts'). I would feel differently if Coldplay were to do a Nike commercial one day and blow it on a private jet the next. But they aren't doing this. They're donating it to MakeTradeFair, Global Citizen and other causes. So, if they're being sellouts and making money to donate to charity, I wouldn't want to stop that. Thats really your only argument. Your other statement said they don't play any instruments since Viva. If you can't see or hear any instruments on this newest album, I can't show it to you any clearer. Reading between the lines, I think what you're getting at, and what most of the 'older' fans are saying, is that they don't like their new sound anymore. In which case there's really nothing anyone can say to change your tastes and it'd be a waste of everyone's time. I'd direct you the oldplayers flock, seems like you'd like it there, but it seems like their head honcho has already done so. Best of luck there, but its a shame that you feel like you've lost the band even though I feel they're really still there, just in a slightly different costume.

Make it happen. I'm about as big a hockey/leafs fan as I am a Coldplay fan. I've tried posting at HFBoards and reading r/hockey, but I've had issues with both platforms.

mmmm, iunno about that. I'd say less than 10 who are active

toronto, correct

We need an NHL/hockey thread up in here. Wings eh? Facing who, pens?

Ooh, isn't periahdark from fla?

damn, thats dangerously close to Toronto. Hope he comes north of there around that time

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lol, omg....

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