Andy14

That was hilarious!

To the OP: I thought you wanted to stimulate an adult discussion about the musical intricacies of this case? "No doubt Coldplagiarism happened here. Coldplay’s arrogance will bite them in the ass here. Get the shirt!!" You've only proven my original post about this being fueled by money. What a moron.

Here's one such example from Digg: "This just doesn't fly. For the refrain, Satriani uses a 2m,5,1,6m relative chord progression. Cold Play uses a 4,5,1,6m relative chord progression. 2m and 4 are harmonicaly related, however, the chord progressions are distinct, not copies. Dismiss. Cold Play never goes into the 4,3m vamp that Satriani uses to highlight his melodic developments. Dismiss. The "feel" is very similar, although Cold Play is a little "choppier" or more stilted on the offbeats, however, there are numerous songs that use these feels and "feel" is not copyrightable or "actionable". Words are, however, Satriani's tune is wordless. Dismiss. If I were judge this would be-- dismissed." And to your second point: I understand about the key-change being necessary to illustrate similarities and the fact that it doesn't necessarily change the case here. What irks me is the fact that people see the video without even understanding there has been modification and then just assume: "Oh, total copy. Note for note copy. Sue them. Just like the stole from Kraftwerk and Creaky Boards". For me ignorance = my intolerance.

Sorry to rant, however: True, if in fact this was purely a matter of the recognition of intellectual property. I’m a music fan. Granted, I have no technical training or a graduate degree, but I can play it, read it and mess around writing it. That said, I still don’t see how this is a black and white case of “this sequence of music was written by me - it is my intellectual property - therefore I deserve credit and recognition for it”. This is surely profit driven, and therefore that clouds the whole argument. If it were truly a case of acknowledgment and credit where credit due, why did Satriani not sue the band back in May when this little known four-minute-one-second piece made its way onto iTunes? Why is it only now after the song has received international acclaim and earned the band a string of Grammy nominations that he decides to take this to the courts? Sure, if there even was a grain of truth to the “he-tried-to-but-Chris-and-Co-told-him-to-take-a-hike” rebuttal, then what stopped him trying again (perhaps just a wee bit harder) in the proceeding seven months? Answer: The time was not right to milk the song for the greatest possible money. Admittedly, I won’t pretend to understand exactly what “iv - VII - III – i” VS. “VI - VII - III – i” means. I just don’t see how one line of musical jargon justifies me suddenly changing my tune and believing this is a direct copy, therefore giving Satriani the right to sue the pants off the band. I too have taken a keen interest in the case (mainly because – as I’m sure my cynicism shows - I feel a strong desire to defend Coldplay). Please understand too that this isn’t just a dig at your particular argument, Coldplagiarism, you’ve made your point (albeit with the intent, not unlike someone else, of pocketing some riches in the process). To me, it looks like the general Anti-Coldplay bandwagon appears to share the view that “Coldplay scum” took one listen to Satriani’s tune, took another look at each other, and said “that should fit nicely in that Kahlo number we’ve got”. Then these same people take one listen to a pitch-shifted, tempo-modified video and then think it’s their God-given duty to drive Coldplay back into the fiery depths of hell. At the same time, I’ve seen other musically-qualified folk posting jargon and then giving their reasons as to how this indicates this music is, in fact, not copied (to a legal-worthy degree, anyway). So who do I believe? I completely understand the point that it doesn’t matter if it was coincidental or intentional. What I’m trying to get across is the fact that this is a very hazy situation, driven by the need for money, and therefore it’s very hard to find credibility in Satriani’s argument. If Satriani really felt a “dagger” through his heart after listening to Viva La Vida, then why wait this long? It’s the same deal with Creaky Boards. You can’t tell me that this isn’t a case of the green-eyed-monster. Again, I’m not saying the songs don’t have similar elements. I have ears. Any old Joe could hear that (and, evidently, did). It’s just that I don’t think you can persuade someone that this is a black and white case of robbing someone of their intellectual property when it’s clearly fuelled by the need for profit. If the answer is money, take the "dagger through my heart" emotion out of it. ... All of which brings me back to my first point. Your argument, Coldplagiarism, stems from the fact that you’ve seen an opportunity to make a bit of money from this whole situation. Musically trained or not, I won’t be persuaded by Joe Satriani or any bystander to believe that Coldplay, without a shred of doubt, have used a piece of music that is Satriani’s rightful property when the fact of the matter is that this entire palaver is fuelled by the opportunity to pocket some cash. Case surely not closed.

So to summarise: Satriani goes public with the whole lawsuit shebang after the song becomes an international hit and right after Coldplay receive a Grammy nod. However, he's surely not doing it for substantial profit. It's purely a matter of integrity and ensuring one's intellectual property is recognised, right? PS. Here's some merchandise I've set up so I can join the hypocrite wagon and make a dime out of this whole ordeal.

Yeah, it's the the live version from the video (available on the EP). I always thought they should have Lost#!$%^!!! It's a version where they mess up. Oh, that was horrible haha.

Yeah :) It was at the Brisbane concert back in 2006. We were waiting around for the carpark to empty and Chris came out of the gate.

I've been wondering the exact same thing for some time. Where are all the acoustic performances? During the Twisted Logic tour I remember countless acoustic radio performances. My favourite was a piano/guitar version of Swallowed In The Sea, and then of course the Japanese session. I'm not sure what's with the lack of acoustic performances on this tour, but I'd love to hear a stripped down version of Violet Hill or Cemeteries.

Can't wait!

Which venue do you need a map for? You can usually Google it and find one.

¡ Viva La Prospekt ! (59.8 Minutes) 1. Life In Technicolor II 2. Postcards From Far Away 3. Cemeteries Of London 4. Glass Of Water 5. Lost! 6. 42 7. Prospekt's March/Poppyfields 8. Lovers In Japan/Reign Of Love 9. Yes 10. Death Will Never Conquer 11. Viva La Vida 12. Violet Hill 13. Lost? 14. Death And All His Friends 15. Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground

A few of those videos have appeared in the last hour.

No worries mate. Yeah, the photo was taken after the Brisbane gig back in June 2006. Fantastic night!

I bought an iPhone recently and of course wanted Coldplay to grace the home screen. After quite a bit of searching I was yet to come across any decent wallpaper. Consequently, I made a number of my own. They are the right size and quality settings and are designed to fit the iPhone screensaver proportions (so the clock or slider don’t obscure anything). If you’re in the market for Coldplay-themed iPhone wallpaper then hopefully this will save you the trouble of an endless search!

Missed out on tickets for both the Brisbane and Sydney shows :( Was there at 9 on the dot, but alas, they sold.

Welcome to the Canberra curse.

Not sure really :p I assume it's just a different class of seating (i.e the silver ones are further back)?

$140 for Gold and $120 for Silver, according to the Brisbane Entertainment Centre website.

1. Life In Technicolor II 2. Glass Of Water 3. Prospekt's March/Poppyfields 4. Postcards From Far Away 5. Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground 6. Rainy Day 7. Lovers in Japan (Osaka Sun Mix) 8. Lost +

Love all the new material, though not a huge Rainy Day fan. Intro scared me upon first listen! "Baby It's A Violent World" is my favourite line.

Is it not being sold on iTunes? I've been constantly looking at the iTunes store (Aussie version) and there's no listing at all, let alone a pre-order option.

That was the most groundbreaking interview I've ever seen.

I believe it's because records are more expensive over there. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

^ Ditto :)

Indeed it is :) Thanks everyone!