Prince Myshkin

Ha.

HA He was injured too.

HA http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/13299869.stm Andy Murray beaten by Thomaz Bellucci at Madrid Open

Awww, thanks Cresticles :hug:

Why am I not the oracle yet?

I know, hence the end of my post. I was joking.

You sound like a priest.

Damn, even after all of the bad things, I just have to like him. French. (Waits to be corrected...)

But what would they gain in that? They don't work with love.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Religious freak, get outta here! No mix of politics and religion please.

Waiting for the results. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13280105

Egg. Punt.

Spam.

Who are the bloggers Mark? Just saying 'bloggers' doesn't really mean much. And anything to add to any of the threads?

I imagine the same as in America, since they were involved too. Relief first and foremost. A lack of sympathy towards Hitler (fair enough, sympathy depends on the people, you either have it or you don't). But his death brought about the end of the war. This one is not over. I'm surprised people didn't realise this. I guess I'm just surprised that there was no forward thinking at all from some of the people. In that moment it was like they had won the war. Like everything was over. I just can't imagine what person would think that, even in the height of joy and relief. Yes, retaliation is inevitable, but it's so much easier when they've got more propaganda to use. Helps to demonise you guys to the rest of the world. Could well be the thing that helps a future terrorist to join the fight.

I see what you mean, but you have to question their intelligence then. The first thing I, and many of my friends thought was 'shit's gonna kick off'. I agree that not everyone will be celebrating death, and yes some people do prefer being around others, but they are incredibly naive. I honestly don't think you would see it in some of the European countries on anywhere near the scale. My points haven't been as much about them celebrating death, it has been about their lack of intuition to realise what could come from their actions and how it could be perceived (if you said that post to the 'enemy' I don't think they would listen, and it is those who you'd rather believe), combined with the constant use of the word justice. But yes, I concede that we have tarred a lot of people with the same brush who do not deserve it.

They cannot be legislated for, and I don't agree they should be. To be honest, the likelihood is that these people will be tortured anyway, behind closed doors. Once you make a law for it then it will become more prevalent in the less extreme cases. Regardless, I say against. There are other ways. It is a shame that there will be people who will have to suffer who may have survived otherwise, but in the great scheme of things, the amount of torture to innocent to innocent people, or the amount of people tortured who will die due to it will be more if you legislate for limited torture laws. The people will die at the hands of sick individuals, not the state, and that is the unfortunate thing about this world and some of the people that inhabit it. It has to be countered in other ways though. Like I said previously, the feeling of paralysis and of not being able to act in these situations is heart wrenching, but the answer is not torture. I may have given a different answer at the start of the thread, but after careful deliberation I feel that there really is no way to justify (a word which has been thrown around a lot) it. Just because somebody is sick and twisted and done disgusting atrocities, innocent before proven guilty has to apply as it is a fundamental right and it shouldn't be taken away as you can never be certain, not even after trial.

I think the only people who will disagree with some of the more recent posts are those who have too much emotion invested into recent events, or who have had the mass amounts of propaganda forced on them since 9/11 or any other attack (incidentally these things are not something that people should look down on). Either of these things cloud judgement and has been said, it is vital that the law-makers do not have vested interests in these matters and instead look at things rationally and in a way that will serve the people as a whole. It hurts to be so paralysed at times, seemingly unable to react and achieve actual justice, but I honestly believe that these last few posts sum up the attitude people should try to take on board.

Does this mean future Apple products are going to be even more restrictive when it comes to storing songs, etc?

A few hours later and a replacement ordered and I get it working. Can't say I'm too disappointed but my recent annoyance has annoyed me. As it tends to do.

FFS! Laptop charger appears to be broken. So long suckers.

This is about her new songs (not Directors Cut) and her frustration at being able to record and release them quicker: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13281337 I know very little about her (other than the obvious), but I saw this this morning and figured the thread would appreciate it.

Well that's not Barca's fault, but yeah, nothing wrong with going for the considerable underdog.

I'll wait till you make your point then, but I don't think my opinion changes even after taking into account the huge symbolism and relief connected to it, since it's obvious to most the backlash such actions could result in.

I wouldn't care if somebody thought it was a positive thing (I'm still waiting on Thatcher to depart), but it's not something to take to the streets for. Celebration of death is completely different to simply seeing it as a positive thing and it's also incredibly naive (at best) in this circumstance. I think the way to deal with it is personally and dare I say it respectfully (for those who died in 9/11 rather than whoever's death sparked this feeling), but hey, people can do what they want. Just don't expect me not to point out how foolish they look and are being. I'm not gonna actually stop them.