I wish we'd recall all our troops and tell europe if they wanna fuck up like they did 2 huge times in the last 100 years, then so be it. secure our borders and let them fuck up and pay the price. because they WILL pay the price for ignorance, they have another ww3 on the way and most of it wont be fought in america.

and people who only care for the present are the ones who fuck themselve and others over in the future.

 

but no one is tangoing here.

 

Wow...this is getting pretty personal :rolleyes: ...

 

You misunderstood me,but whatever...

Lead us, oh mighty imperator!

:sneaky:

Wow...this is getting pretty personal :rolleyes: ...

 

You misunderstood me,but whatever...

Lead us, oh mighty imperator!

:sneaky:

 

Personal? ANYONE who doesnt pay attention to their future is a fool. that goes for anyone, because that will only cause them harm in the long run.

 

but hey, winston churchill warned europe pre-ww2 and was thought a fool by most of europe, well it turns out he was right. and i can say most the war will not be fought on american soil, europe, like every other time, is only screwing themselves over in the long run....they are making the EXACT same mistakes they made in the 1930's.

Personal? ANYONE who doesnt pay attention to their future is a fool. that goes for anyone' date=' because that will only cause them harm in the long run.[/quote']

 

Mr. Generalization (if you know what does it even mean), did you intentionly missed the "you misunderstood me" part or are you playing dumb?

 

Just so you know-those allegations are not quite true.

 

But if you really think so, show me the way to better life. I'm really wondering :rolleyes: !

It takes two to tango,mrcool011!

 

Europe's not the only one here making problems. Bush has a big part in it...

 

I'm not scared.

I know that the war will come and...frankly-I don't really care...because it's happening right now. And for that I care. Not for the future but the present.

 

 

YOU JUST SAID," I don't really care...because it's happening right now. And for that I care. Not for the future but the present"

 

That mind set only causes much more problems in the long run.

Okay-here's a tip...it's happening NOW. AKA it ALREADY started. So by being concerned about the future you're missing huge part which is happening in PRESENT.

 

I'm done...if you don't get it, I'm so sorry.

Okay-here's a tip...it's happening NOW. AKA it ALREADY started. So by being concerned about the future you're missing huge part which is happening in PRESENT.

 

I'm done...if you don't get it, I'm so sorry.

 

I GET IT. but its still a foolish thing. you always have to be thinking about the future, even when something bads happening now. i know what you're saying, but it is that mindset that causes problems in the long run.

how bout this, if we never went to Iraq most of the problems with Iran wouldnt exist...the only reason Iran wasnt making it public that they were trying to make a bomb is because Iraq was there to stand up to them. We take out Iraq, now all of the sudden Iran is in the picture. We have lost all of our credibility now, and nobody wants to back us...i agree China, North Korea, and Iran are problems that will need to be dealt with quickly before it escelates, but it just sucks because we seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot here with Iraq.

You're helpless...

 

how bout this' date=' if we never went to Iraq most of the problems with Iran wouldnt exist...the only reason Iran wasnt making it public that they were trying to make a bomb is because Iraq was there to stand up to them. We take out Iraq, now all of the sudden Iran is in the picture. We have lost all of our credibility now, and nobody wants to back us...i agree China, North Korea, and Iran are problems that will need to be dealt with quickly before it escelates, but it just sucks because we seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot here with Iraq.[/quote']

 

:drummer:

You're asolutely right!

Holy fuck, calm down.

Huh...you don't know me,obviously.

 

I don't do that calming thing :rolleyes:

how bout this' date=' if we never went to Iraq most of the problems with Iran wouldnt exist...the only reason Iran wasnt making it public that they were trying to make a bomb is because Iraq was there to stand up to them. We take out Iraq, now all of the sudden Iran is in the picture. We have lost all of our credibility now, and nobody wants to back us...i agree China, North Korea, and Iran are problems that will need to be dealt with quickly before it escelates, but it just sucks because we seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot here with Iraq.[/quote']

 

They would exist still....but we'd be more capable of fighting them. iraq was a HUGE mistake, but it didnt cause iran to have these problems. The world used iraq to strike out agaisnt america. because pushed around and pissed off too many people, its the perfect opportunity to get back at america right now, the only thing is it will only cause more trouble for everyone.

 

No one will deal with nk, or iran, except america.

You're helpless...

 

 

 

:drummer:

You're asolutely right!

 

Yeah, whose making the classic mistake done pre-ww2? people who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it....that is true.

Huh...you don't know me,obviously.

 

I don't do that calming thing :rolleyes:

 

 

I wasn't really specifically talking to you, just in general. I don't debate on here anymore because everything gets so ANGRY, and eventually personal. It gives me a massive headache.

 

 

I don't know. The world's a mess. I hate resigning myself to it, but goddamnit.... I can't go and put my finger in the dam alone, now.

Lay off that pre warning thing...I've got it. I never said it wasn't true!

 

And quit blaming everyone else...to be dramatic - accusing never helped anyone. And Iraq should deal with Iraq problems. Not America, Japan or Europe. Iraq! And I'm not reffering to terrorism!

Lay off that pre warning thing...I've got it. I never said it wasn't true!

 

And quit blaming everyone else...to be dramatic - accusing never helped anyone. And Iraq should deal with Iraq problems. Not America, Japan or Europe. Iraq! And I'm not reffering to terrorism!

 

I never said america wasnt to blame. we brought alot of this stuff on ourselves, and iraq war was a huge mistake that hurt us. but most of the blame like pre ww2 lays on europe, because europes the one with the real power to stop this, america cannot do anything on its own. Europe is the one who has the power to make the coming war less voilent and possibly stop it.

 

The sad fact is every nation is looking the other way and because of that we will have another world war, when it could be nipped in the bud.

Nipped in the bud??

 

The US (through using Isreal) is prevoking this war.

 

They wan't it.......and have called for it the past.

Nipped in the bud??

 

The US (through using Isreal) is prevoking this war.

 

They wan't it.......and have called for it the past.

 

we are trying to nip the huge war that is coming in the bud. like what europe should have done with germany in the 30's.

Jesus f-ing Christ!!

 

 

get off the damn WW2 trip dude... seriously. You're beginning to sound like a broken record.... live in the present, not fuckin ions ago.....

 

 

move on.

Jesus f-ing Christ!!

 

 

get off the damn WW2 trip dude... seriously. You're beginning to sound like a broken record.... live in the present, not fuckin ions ago.....

 

 

move on.

 

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it....it is pure ignorance not to learn lesson from THE BIGGEST event in human history, that affected the world we live in so much politicaly and socially. history can teach us many thing, only if we can pay attention to, if not we are ignorant fools. and you dont give a damn about learning from history, so what does that make you then?:stunned:

you know what they say about people who ASSume......

 

 

don't speak for me or for others... don't try to tell US what we think or how we feel. You'll only end up in trouble.

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it....it is pure ignorance not to learn lesson from THE BIGGEST event in human history' date=' that affected the world we live in so much politicaly and socially. history can teach us many thing, only if we can pay attention to, if not we are ignorant fools. and you dont give a damn about learning from history, so what does that make you then?:stunned:[/quote']

 

Do you know that the Bush family aided Hitler....

 

Go figure.........George and the gang have the trademark on the 4th Reich

Ok so learning from history is good now? geez you flip flop more then kerry did

 

 

you talk crap because i say we need to learn from history...so that would imply you think learning from history is dumb and not needed.

Those who don't learn from History are destined to repeat it...

 

BTW, Nick...NOBODY flips more than Kerry...lol!

I think you just talk crap continuously... lol no matter what! :lol: